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does a digital nomad in thailand need a work permit?

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54 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Beware of you who ask. Is Thaiembassy.com an official government office or a private law firm?

 

Further in reality work permits aren't handled at all by embassies, which in fact represent the foreign affairs department of any government. 

No it's not and official website. It's run by a third party selling visa services.

 

From the website; "ThaiEmbassy.com. This is NOT the official website of the Thai Embassy."

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13 hours ago, SteveK said:

If they work for a fully legal company inside Thailand, then I would say that they do not fall under the definition of a digital nomad, rather they are simply an employee sent overseas. Very different.

Do you mean a company registered in Thailand?  Or do you mean a company registered in another country and not registered in Thailand but the person is working in Thailand?

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Think about taxes. If you are receiving funds from outside Thailand and not declaring the money for taxes anywhere in the world then this might be a problem too.

 

Pay your taxes where due and keep head down.

 

If your work requires you to do any obvious physical work in Thailand look to get a work permit either via iglu or own company.

 

as someone else pointed out an elite visa might be an option 

 

 

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1 hour ago, jackdd said:

 

No doubt this happened, but I'm not sure that the police not doing anything makes it lawful.  Consider "bargirls were accepting cash for sex and the police didn't do anything."  Could one conclude that prostitution is legal?

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I know a digital nomad who got a work permit because he was paranoid, for that he needed to create a thai company and he hired some thai workers on paper, those workers had nothing to do but he still needed to pay taxes for them.

 

Every year it was a huge hassle to file yearly reports, pay VAT, taxes, etc. He closed the company and left the country.

 

 

Now in Chiang Mai there is a BOI company that make unlimited work permits for digital nomads, it's the only easy legal way to do it, you pay some taxes on your earnings too of course.

 

In practice, 98% of digital nomads are just tourists (elite visa) or married to a local. They open offshore companies and never pay any taxes anywhere. This is not legal but there is absolutely no way of knowing what you are doing if you never engage with any thai customer. Most people who get in trouble is because they told someone what they were doing and someone reported them to the local police.

 

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2 hours ago, JohnnyBKK said:

Most people who get in trouble is because they told someone what they were doing and someone reported them to the local police.

I think it is prudent to keep a low profile. However, talking about it or not, I cannot recall a single case of a digital nomad with no Thai customers or employees ever being prosecuted. Can you point to such a case?

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3 hours ago, JohnnyBKK said:

I know a digital nomad who got a work permit because he was paranoid, for that he needed to create a thai company and he hired some thai workers on paper, those workers had nothing to do but he still needed to pay taxes for them.

 

Every year it was a huge hassle to file yearly reports, pay VAT, taxes, etc. He closed the company and left the country.

 

 

Now in Chiang Mai there is a BOI company that make unlimited work permits for digital nomads, it's the only easy legal way to do it, you pay some taxes on your earnings too of course.

 

In practice, 98% of digital nomads are just tourists (elite visa) or married to a local. They open offshore companies and never pay any taxes anywhere. This is not legal but there is absolutely no way of knowing what you are doing if you never engage with any thai customer. Most people who get in trouble is because they told someone what they were doing and someone reported them to the local police.

 

Yes your totally correct, BOI companies can issue unlimited work permits via the DOE, 

 

Same with that iglu company, and a few companies in Bangkok and Chiang mai, 

 

I think that most digital nomads will move on after a few months, so no real issues with visas, but long term on line workers tend to move under the ltd or boi systems, ltd is a bit of a hassle hence why all are going for the boi recently

 

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Posted (edited)

No, you do not need a permit.

 

If you work as a digital nomad , it means you are a nomad. So you move from country to country. You have a contract with an international company outside of Thailand, you get your salary transfered to a bank account in your home country, not Thailand. You pay your taxes in your home country, not Thailand. 

 

Most digital nomads stay a few months in Thailand , then move on to the next destination. With the current immigration rules , there are not many options to stay long term in Thailand unless you are married to a Thai or over the age of 50. A tourist visa will only work for a few months, in the old days you could enter the border unlimited times, but not anymore. 

 

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On 8/9/2019 at 1:56 PM, SteveK said:

They never have. Because they cannot get. In Thailand, at least.

Technically the cannot get a digital nomad work permit in the US also. But it is tolerated just like in Thailand. But don't tell to IO that you live as a digital nomad in Thailand or the USA and work remotely. That is a no no. 

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On 8/10/2019 at 2:32 PM, mommysboy said:

No, not at this time.

To clarify, as some seem uncertain, a person so described in the question does not in actuality need a work permit at the present time in what is a grey area.

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On 8/12/2019 at 11:37 AM, RocketDog said:

The best answer to this question is to not ask it.

Yeah that's pretty much the gist of it, the world is stuck in old laws that no longer work, laws that are unclear and can be intrepreted in totally different ways.

 

A classic example my home country, battery powered lights on bikes aren't compliant with law because no one bothered to rewrite some 70 year old traffic law....

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