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Like a friend of mine who has lived almost his entire life in Hong Kong said before the takeover when I asked him if the Chinese are going to <deleted>.. it up - and he said “ not immediately but over the next 2 decades they will manage to screw up Hong Kong” looks like he was right.
The communist Chinese stupidity of trying to fix things that are not broken because of a few power hungry old men in Beijing is amazing!
China is becoming a dangerous pariah spreading like a disease all over the world.
The entire world should work on the bully China being broken up into several independent countries and they should start by recognizing Taiwan as independent country and show the old men in Beijing that their time is up.


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55 minutes ago, boonrawdcnx said:

Like a friend of mine who has lived almost his entire life in Hong Kong said before the takeover when I asked him if the Chinese are going to <deleted>.. it up - and he said “ not immediately but over the next 2 decades they will manage to screw up Hong Kong” looks like he was right.
The communist Chinese stupidity of trying to fix things that are not broken because of a few power hungry old men in Beijing is amazing!
China is becoming a dangerous pariah spreading like a disease all over the world.
The entire world should work on the bully China being broken up into several independent countries and they should start by recognizing Taiwan as independent country and show the old men in Beijing that their time is up.


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What ???
The Trump government is trying to slap tariffs onto the Chinese goods entering America, and Trump is already regarded as being absurd for doing this. Trump is already harming American farmers and other Americans who export goods to China. That's because China is going to hit back with tariffs against American goods entering China. And, no, Europe is not interested in reducing trade with China. And Britain doing Brexit, Britain is certainly not interested in less trade with China.

Break China into seperate bits ? What, you suggest the suicidal option of sending NATO soldiers into China, to fight alongside one group of Chinese against another group ?

And Taiwan. Beijing will never recognize Taiwan as an independent country. What about America and Britain ? Do you think America and Britain should recognize Taiwan as an independent country ?  Do you think that America should allow Taiwan to have an Embassy in Washington ? That would be a crazy thing to do. Not even the Trump government would contemplate such a mad idea. Allowing Taiwan to have an Embassy in Washington means that them old men in Beijing will close down the Chinese Embassy in Washington. And that, would be disastrous for America. That's why America will never do it.

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7 hours ago, tonbridgebrit said:


What ???
The Trump government is trying to slap tariffs onto the Chinese goods entering America, and Trump is already regarded as being absurd for doing this. Trump is already harming American farmers and other Americans who export goods to China. That's because China is going to hit back with tariffs against American goods entering China. And, no, Europe is not interested in reducing trade with China. And Britain doing Brexit, Britain is certainly not interested in less trade with China.

Break China into seperate bits ? What, you suggest the suicidal option of sending NATO soldiers into China, to fight alongside one group of Chinese against another group ?

And Taiwan. Beijing will never recognize Taiwan as an independent country. What about America and Britain ? Do you think America and Britain should recognize Taiwan as an independent country ?  Do you think that America should allow Taiwan to have an Embassy in Washington ? That would be a crazy thing to do. Not even the Trump government would contemplate such a mad idea. Allowing Taiwan to have an Embassy in Washington means that them old men in Beijing will close down the Chinese Embassy in Washington. And that, would be disastrous for America. That's why America will never do it.

 

This topic ain't (for a wonder) about Trump. And even if it was, Trump is not a permanent fixture. You're just deflecting.

 

You're pretty much the only poster repeatedly bringing up NATO in contexts (more absurd and less) relating to China.

 

And, as if you weren't aware of it, China needs trade with other countries just as badly, if not more so. The prospects of China closing down shop and cutting relations with the USA is quite out there.

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On 8/20/2019 at 10:52 AM, Morch said:

 

This topic ain't (for a wonder) about Trump. And even if it was, Trump is not a permanent fixture. You're just deflecting.

 

You're pretty much the only poster repeatedly bringing up NATO in contexts (more absurd and less) relating to China.

 

And, as if you weren't aware of it, China needs trade with other countries just as badly, if not more so. The prospects of China closing down shop and cutting relations with the USA is quite out there.


Surely, you accept that if American soldiers are going to be in China, to fight alongside whatever Chinese, against whatever other Chinese (the old men of Beijing) , well, this involves NATO ? Washington will demand that Europe spills the blood of European soldiers, if Americans are going to die fighting against China ? No way will America shoulder the burden of war against China, on it's own.

China needs trade with other countries ? It certainly does. China needs trade with Europe. Europe is not interested in reducing trade. China wants trade with Britain. Britain is not interested in reducing trade. China needs trade with America. The White House is contemplating a trade war with China. China does not want a trade war.

China wants trade and contact with the rest of the world. China wants to send tourists to London and Paris, China wants to flood Thailand with tourists. All this is good for China, and good for planet earth.
The poster, boonrawcdnx, that poster seems to be against China doing all of this.

Morch, are you against America and Europe importing a mountain of Chinese manufactured goods ? Are you against Europe and Britain regarding China as a vital export market ? Are you against London and Paris regarding the mainland Chinese tourists as vital ? Do you feel that, China is a vital export market for American soybean farmers ? Do you feel that China is a vital market for large sectors of America's agricultural sector ?

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10 hours ago, tonbridgebrit said:


Surely, you accept that if American soldiers are going to be in China, to fight alongside whatever Chinese, against whatever other Chinese (the old men of Beijing) , well, this involves NATO ? Washington will demand that Europe spills the blood of European soldiers, if Americans are going to die fighting against China ? No way will America shoulder the burden of war against China, on it's own.

China needs trade with other countries ? It certainly does. China needs trade with Europe. Europe is not interested in reducing trade. China wants trade with Britain. Britain is not interested in reducing trade. China needs trade with America. The White House is contemplating a trade war with China. China does not want a trade war.

China wants trade and contact with the rest of the world. China wants to send tourists to London and Paris, China wants to flood Thailand with tourists. All this is good for China, and good for planet earth.
The poster, boonrawcdnx, that poster seems to be against China doing all of this.

Morch, are you against America and Europe importing a mountain of Chinese manufactured goods ? Are you against Europe and Britain regarding China as a vital export market ? Are you against London and Paris regarding the mainland Chinese tourists as vital ? Do you feel that, China is a vital export market for American soybean farmers ? Do you feel that China is a vital market for large sectors of America's agricultural sector ?

 

Your "surley"s aside, I'm not the one going on about war between the USA and China. Therefore, no need to "accept" your nonsense premises and their supposed consequences.

 

As for your trade waffle. you were the one who asserted China would cut of trade/relations. Try to at least follow your own posts.

The "are you against" contrived bit is just the trademark trolling. Nothing more. As said, not accepting the nonsense premises, which kinda makes this part irrelevant.


 

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21 hours ago, Morch said:

 

As for your trade waffle. you were the one who asserted China would cut of trade/relations. Try to at least follow your own posts.
 


Morch, the USA, and the vast majority of countries across planet earth, has got a Chinese Embassy which is an Embassy of the Peoples' Republic of China. That's mainland China. The Embassy is NOT an Embassy of "Republic of China, Taiwan".

Now, you do realise, right, that no country on planet earth has both an embassy for China and one for Taiwan ?  Okay, in London, if the British government was to allow Taiwan to open an Embassy, called Embassy of the Republic of China (Taiwan) then, then what ? Well, Beijing will simply close down the Chinese Embassy in London. That's why London has not got an Embassy of the Republic of China. And this applies not just to London, it applies to all other capital cities. Nobody can have both Embassies.

The poster boonrawdcnx appears to be pushing for a campaign to isolate China. And indeed, recognising Taiwan as China (and refusing to recognise China as China) is certainly an attempt to isolate China. Yes, recognising Taiwan as China, this involves having an Embassy of the "Republic of China, Taiwan".

I'm only trying to say that, for any major country on planet earth, it's disastrous if they allow Taiwan to have an Embassy, which will cause China to close the Chinese Embassy. Do you feel that, it would be crazy and absurd if Washington allows Taiwan to open an Embassy in Washington DC, and hence, cause Beijing to close down the Chinese Embassy ? Yes, the White House might carry out stupid and silly behaviour sometimes, but they're not really that stupid. If they were, they'd go and allow Taiwan to have an Embassy in America.

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32 minutes ago, tonbridgebrit said:


Morch, the USA, and the vast majority of countries across planet earth, has got a Chinese Embassy which is an Embassy of the Peoples' Republic of China. That's mainland China. The Embassy is NOT an Embassy of "Republic of China, Taiwan".

Now, you do realise, right, that no country on planet earth has both an embassy for China and one for Taiwan ?  Okay, in London, if the British government was to allow Taiwan to open an Embassy, called Embassy of the Republic of China (Taiwan) then, then what ? Well, Beijing will simply close down the Chinese Embassy in London. That's why London has not got an Embassy of the Republic of China. And this applies not just to London, it applies to all other capital cities. Nobody can have both Embassies.

The poster boonrawdcnx appears to be pushing for a campaign to isolate China. And indeed, recognising Taiwan as China (and refusing to recognise China as China) is certainly an attempt to isolate China. Yes, recognising Taiwan as China, this involves having an Embassy of the "Republic of China, Taiwan".

I'm only trying to say that, for any major country on planet earth, it's disastrous if they allow Taiwan to have an Embassy, which will cause China to close the Chinese Embassy. Do you feel that, it would be crazy and absurd if Washington allows Taiwan to open an Embassy in Washington DC, and hence, cause Beijing to close down the Chinese Embassy ? Yes, the White House might carry out stupid and silly behaviour sometimes, but they're not really that stupid. If they were, they'd go and allow Taiwan to have an Embassy in America.

 

I kinda doubt you've got a good quality crystal ball in working order.

You have no idea how China will actually react if push comes to shove. How much it will risk and so forth.

All the more inane, seeing how you've denied the existence of mainland Chinese nationalism on a parallel topic. Nobody can have both embassies is not a fact - it's how things are now, rather than a law of nature.

 

You're only trying to say that China is the best. That China is always right. And so on and so forth.

 

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On 8/22/2019 at 3:26 AM, RichardColeman said:

Personally I think it disgraceful that we in the UK import muslims and African migrants by the bucket load but wont allow the good people of Hong Kong who love the UK and democracy to come stay when in need.

Has HMG declined asylum applications. or refused H.K. citizens entry to resettle, as a matter of policy in the UK? No.

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