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2 hours ago, Martinwatersave said:

A brilliant article. Hits the nail right on the head. Calls out the Brexit moaners who want to stop immigration in the Uk and want to be free to travel the world themselves.

Immigration and travelling ( the world ) are not the same thing.

I would have no problem with immigration if it was done on the same basis as they do in Saudi Arabia.

However, when I was working in the UK, I discovered that someone would immigrate to the UK, work the 5 years or whatever and become a resident, then bring their aged parents ( who never paid a penny in tax in the UK ) over to live and get the NHS to sort their medical problems out for free. It's no wonder the British have had a gutsful of it.

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On 8/10/2019 at 10:02 AM, from the home of CC said:

There seems to be a predominantly higher amount of whining from citizens of one or two particular countries, at least it seems to me and I believe if you're read tvf for any length of time you'll see it. What makes me laugh is the number who chirp constantly that don't even live here on a full time basis, are kind of pathetic in a way. As the SB says, sometimes you just need a little sabbatical from tv for the negativity can get a little grating. I love living here and have been happy for many years. Marrying my Thai wife was probably the best move I've ever made and living here with her in Thailand are my dreams brought to life on a daily basis. 

I'm one of those chirpy guys, consider my home is Thailand, as that is where my wife and family are located. I work away in the UK as this will provide the income to meet my needs when I retire

Thing is, I have no gripe with the UK, I have had a good life here, and, have been treated well by my home country

 

Thailand will become my adopted home through choice, so no gripes there either, bills will always be to pay, life to be lived, and I am an adaptable sort of guy with plenty to look forward to.

 

Through my visits and my family I am in touch with every day life in Thailand, but have little need to do anything at this point about many of the negative 'issues high lighted' other than note the concerns,success, or failure of others and learn from their scribings, it is imperative being aware that I am me, and they are them.

I think it is too easy to condemn those who try and fail, I condemn them for their tunnel vision, the repeated premise that everyone is the same, and thus what issues they have experienced will apply to all.

 

I could spout about how good my life is, because it is, and the future is rosy without spectacles.

 

Nothing to moan about, plenty to still learn, but no fear for my future in Thailand with my Thai wife, children, and family, looking forward to it, thanks to my upbringing hard work in the UK, I come not to get uptight and moan but to relax

 

Am I qualified to comment on Tvisa, well as I have stated, we are all individuals, some will say yes, others no, I can live with that 😎

 

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16 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

And since a lot of the people that complain the most seem to be those who want to live here part time, well, yes,  I find that pathetic.

Many people split their time between 2 or even more countries these days and that is likley to increase. They have issues just the same as anyone else - they are not pathetic.

 

I have been trying to make the move since 2008. The world wide recession thwarted me the first time and then, just as I thought things were getting better, house prices had picked up and I'd get a decent price for my house in the UK, the Brexit vote happened and I was screwed again.

 

I have a lot of connections to and in Thailand and I don't think I have any less rights to make my views known than you have. Your real time status in Thailand is a visitor and so is mine when I visit.  You can call me and others like me pathetic if you like but I don't agree.

 

People have every right to make their views known no matter how long they stay in Thailand. Tourists can comment on tourism issues, long term visitors, on their issues and those who come and go, on things that affect them etc. etc. None are not wrong to do so - but they may go about it the wrong way.

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Moaners and Apologists.

Black or white.

Never that simple! I consider there are many shades of grey in this world, particularly in this country in which I choose to live.

 

Thailand is still an exotic paradise, with so many advantages over all other affordable retirement destinations and is by far my preferred country to spend my rest of days.

Unfortunately, however, it is not the complete slice of heaven many attribute to it and refuse to hear dissension.  The flaws are manifest and shouldn't all be ignored or accepted as a cultural thing.  At the risk of being labeled the hackneyed bar stool moaner (never been comfortable perched on one, and no longer drink anyway), I believe some concerning issues are sometimes in need of raised voices, however impotent an expat's opinion may be.

 

My biggest concern, is the seemingly uncaring attitude of authority, and their reluctance to do anything concrete to fix the slaughter on the roads. Personally, I get really sick of seeing dead bodies, covered in their own blood and gore, in my path so often.  The OP seemed to contradict himself in this matter with these two sentences:

"They (moaners) do the issue a disservice by claiming that poor driving and lack of police enforcement is the be all and end all of the problem."  
"The reality is that a huge part of the problem is due to motorcycles and particularly young people without helmets riding them. And drink driving."

 

Immigration procedures irk me greatly, not because of money issues, for which I made allowance from the start, but because of the ever changing and extra tasks they continually invent to seemingly frustrate their clients enough to go the Agent route. For many, trips to Immigration involves lengthy travel, and being told that extra documents are now required is very annoying. Getting fined for breaching rules previously unknown can be infuriating.  I really don't think a long term PR who thinks all can be solved by clicking a few computer keys is really qualified to comment on this issue.

As an Australian, I do moan about the ever decreasing exchange rates for my dollar. Many countries and characters around the world are responsible for this decline, I don't blame the strength of the Baht. Although, personally speaking, it would be nice if it were to be devalued. Anyone being paid in the local currency should be happy with their lot, not attacking the unfortunates who are seeing their spending money decrease by 30% or more.

Other than those issues, I'm not concerned with the little things such as taxi costs, dual pricing, etc.  Protest by avoidance works there.

 

If I feel unhappy with conditions here I can always just repeat the number 251 in my head.

That's the winning margin from the first cricket test between Australia and the boastful English. 

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7 minutes ago, 473geo said:

I'm one of those chirpy guys, consider my home is Thailand, as that is where my wife and family are located. I work away in the UK as this will provide the income to meet my needs when I retire

Thing is, I have no gripe with the UK, I have had a good life here, and, have been treated well by my home country

 

Thailand will become my adopted home through choice, so no gripes there either, bills will always be to pay, life to be lived, and I am an adaptable sort of guy with plenty to look forward to.

 

Through my visits and my family I am in touch with every day life in Thailand, but have little need to do anything at this point about many of the negative 'issues high lighted' other than note the concerns,success, or failure of others and learn from their scribings, it is imperative being aware that I am me, and they are them.

I think it is too easy to condemn those who try and fail, I condemn them for their tunnel vision, the repeated premise that everyone is the same, and thus what issues they have experienced will apply to all.

 

I could spout about how good my life is, because it is, and the future is rosy without spectacles.

 

Nothing to moan about, plenty to still learn, but no fear for my future in Thailand with my Thai wife, children, and family, looking forward to it, thanks to my upbringing hard work in the UK, I come not to get uptight and moan but to relax

 

Am I qualified to comment on Tvisa, well as I have stated, we are all individuals, some will say yes, others no, I can live with that 😎

 

 You appear to have an excellent attitude towards life and a maturity that sadly is lacking with many these days. Hopefully by the time you decide to reside here full time many of this issues that are causing present consternation will be resolved to most peoples satisfaction. Years ago I read a lot of info on culture shock, for when I worked my first overseas job (in the K.S.A.), I had it bad initially until I got my head around it. I believe there are some posters who suffer from this greatly and never dealt with it and because of that, the skies will always be gray here. They seemed to never let go of the notion that things should be as it is back home. I'm glad this country doesn't fit into some preconceived mold, its one of the reasons I'm here.  

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1 hour ago, KhaoYai said:

Who mentioned 1 week per year. I visit every 8 weeks for 2 weeks and many offshore workers for example do the same or similar. Some have families in Thailand.

And folks such as yourself will have many more interactions with immigration than someone like myself who extends once a year for a full year based on a work permit. Life with regards to immigration is much less chaotic for me than for someone who is coming and going on a regular basis. So I feel these folks have a much higher need to draw upon the collective wisdom of TVF.

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3 hours ago, Martinwatersave said:

Are you actually comparing Thailand to the brutal regime of East Germany. Come on man get real 

Total reach. There was absolutely no comparison made or implied. He was simply using his home country as an example of a place where progress came at a price. The point being that progress does not come while standing still.

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Nice article Mr Rooster. All things considered, I think you got off light.

 

1. Stockholm Syndrome. He's obviously heard that in a bar as, as far as I'm aware, you haven't been abducted.

 

2. Ass kisser. Well, you knew that was coming.

 

3. Residents v tourists. Very few tourist serial complainers. Except the residents masquerading as tourists. Or vice versa. Draw your own conclusions.

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On 8/9/2019 at 9:35 PM, rooster59 said:

Thailand and the world is safer than ever.

Don't come to the USA. It's a horror movie. Much worse under Trump the racist. Thank God I live in Bangkok and only periodically visit my former home and country. I thoroughly agree with the foregoing - I am happy in Thailand, scared in the US. No complaints will roll off my tongue.

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1 hour ago, Traubert said:

Nice article Mr Rooster. All things considered, I think you got off light.

 

1. Stockholm Syndrome. He's obviously heard that in a bar as, as far as I'm aware, you haven't been abducted.

 

2. Ass kisser. Well, you knew that was coming.

 

3. Residents v tourists. Very few tourist serial complainers. Except the residents masquerading as tourists. Or vice versa. Draw your own conclusions.

Nice, and can confirm that I am yet to be abducted. 

 

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