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I usually enjoy your column, but this is the most unsympathetic piece you've submitted since your onslaught on British pensioners back in October, after they had the insolence to complain about the UK embassy ditching their income letters. Personally I don't consider myself a Thai basher at all and I try to limit my whinging to only the most worthy causes - otherwise I love the place, get on great with the locals and have always had warm connections and relationships with people here, I also pretty much agree with your assessment in your long list in post #62. But it's a mistake to conflate serious complaints with trivial gripes and ignore the fact that many of the latter include a healthy dose of sarcasm, often directed at anyone and everyone, local or otherwise. By lumping all critics together in the same pot and labelling them as Thai bashers, you're insulting the intelligence of people who have a genuine axe to grind on some real problems here. My issues with this week's diatribe:

 

On 8/10/2019 at 8:35 AM, rooster59 said:

Expats - led by a French lawyer in Isaan - have been signing a petition to have the enforcement of the TM 30 legislation scrapped. A total of 3,400 had signed by midweek. It has been part of a huge amount of moaning about and against Thai immigration. It's largely unwarranted and has become like a sport on Thailand forums with complainers harping on about everything no matter what the Thais say or do to the contrary.
 
One leading official said not to bother with TM 30 in most cases. This was ignored by the detractors who continued on their bashing agenda like a wife on a "perma-period".

Anyone who doesn't recognise the TM30 enforcement debacle as an appalling development by immigration surely needs their head examined. One poster reported this week he was fined for not filing a TM30 for his baby. Children don't even get fined for overstay here - this is scandalous.

 

Your second paragraph is incorrect and has been directly contradicted by the head of Bangkok immigration this week who confirmed they're now required for every out of province trip.

 

On 8/10/2019 at 8:35 AM, rooster59 said:

I got Permanent Residency in 2003. It was not a walk in Lumpini park. It took the best part of one and a half years, involved a lot of expense and a mountain of paperwork and visits to government offices. Now people moan incessantly about having to have money in the bank to retire or key in a few numbers on an app - may the Lord Buddha help us. So many whingers believe that Thailand owes them just because they have decided to live here. 

That kind of explains why you don't care much about the TM30 problem - if you're on PR, you're exempted from filing them. A certain Peter Sellers film from 1959 springs to mind, and it's not one of those from which immigration shamelessly stole Henry Mancini's theme music for their TM30 terrorist video cartoon. 

 

On 8/10/2019 at 8:35 AM, rooster59 said:

As former British PM Harold Macmillan once said: "You've never had it so good!" 

Surely that was a mistype and you meant to write bad? Those trying to live here and support families on UK income or pensions have quite literally never had it so bad. 

 

On 8/10/2019 at 8:35 AM, rooster59 said:

The rates have always fluctuated and it is better to go with the flow and make adjustments rather than complain incessantly about things you can't change. I came in 1982 when it was 42 to the pound. A couple of years later it had dropped to 33. In 1997 it went up 10 baht in a week (oh, how the teachers at my school moaned they were suddenly being paid less!). Later in 1997 it was trading at well over 80. In 2004 it was at 73. Prior to Brexit it was mid 50s now its 38. Accept it and adapt rather than moan. And don't make assumptions about the value of foreign currency - then blame Thailand when things go pear-shaped. If it's 40 next year be thankful. If it's 30 or less.....suck it up.

You must remember how much things cost back then? Didn't you once refer to your salary of 40000 back in the 80's as a tidy sum allowing you to move to upscale Phrom Phong? This same amount would be viewed by most expats as a meagre wage now, and would have a long established pensioner ejected from the country before he could say "extension". And as if your farang-harangue of the downtrodden Brit wasn't harsh enough in October, I should point out that at the time of that column the exchange rate was 43 - it's now 37, close to 15% lower.

 

On 8/10/2019 at 8:35 AM, rooster59 said:

I'm just happy. Happy with my Thai wife. Happy with Thai men. Happy in the street. Happy at home. Happy with my kids and their school. Happy on my bike. And ecstatic with the ever improving exchange rate......

You must get how patronising this sounds to those of your fellow countrymen who are being ruined because of the ever declining exchange rate? Of course, if their money's all in baht they'll also be delighted with the ever improving rate, and won't be forcibly separated from their wife, kids and bike when they come to try and renew their extensions. Show some empathy. 

 

On 8/10/2019 at 8:35 AM, rooster59 said:

By now regular readers might think that Rooster has had a visit from the TAT this week for a bit of attitude adjustment.

Not so hard to believe, considering you even spoke up in favour of deputy dawg this week. This is surely a historic first - ordinarily you'd be lambasting him for fiddling with his bezels while Bangkok burned it's way to the front of the pack in motorbike fatalities. He and his cronies are hardly new faces, and things have got much worse under his watch, with the transport priorities being submarines, tanks, private planes - pretty much anything but road safety. 

 

On 8/10/2019 at 8:35 AM, rooster59 said:

Much maligned DPM Prawit

This description is totally out of character, and has me wondering if you're not winding us up like a dead man's Rolex. You've pretty much led the pack in maligning him in the past, and your scathing comments have never gone unappreciated. Earlier contributions have feted him as the ugliest politician since Chalavit, the wally watchman, and this fine accolade:

"Prawit may be nearing the end of his time - goodness only knows what all that pie must be doing to his arteries - but I hope that he lasts long enough to one day feel the wrath of the young when they come to hold power. Not least of all for "everything common he did and mean, on many memorable scenes".

 

I'm loath to criticise the column, wry humour is one of the great British gifts to the world and you usually do it a great service, but in places this week it sounds like you're harbouring a mean streak. Hoping for a return to your usual form next week. 

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19 hours ago, BradinAsia said:

 

Don't forget other such unforgivable things that the Thai authorities allow to happen, like --

    - Too much rain.

    - The weather is much too hot.

    - Too many earthquakes without advance warning.

    - Too many people who don't learn to speak English.

    - Too many Thais who are repulsed by uncouth, unwashed farangs with hairy armpits in bars and restaurants.

 

Isn't it reasonable to expect that Thais should appreciate that all us farangs decided to visit/live in their country,

and for God's sake, shouldn't the Thais make every effort to make their country more like the UK, the US or Oz?

 

 

 

 

Thats one of my complaints but its one that can be delt with. As no country should change who they are to appease another. Who the country is is its unique identity. When trying to be another country its being fake and then their is nothing special about it anymore. 

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On 8/10/2019 at 8:35 AM, rooster59 said:

It'll cost me the best part of 8,000 baht to leave Thailand (yes, residents must pay to exit)

?? Are you talking about re-entry permit?? because that's much lower than 8000 baht, and it's good for as many times as you want in a year. In the late 80's to beginning of 90's there was a 1000 baht travel tax for Thai citizens for every time they left Thailand, but that's long gone..

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rooster59: Outstanding article. You hit the nail on the head. I rarely read all of your articles, but this one was well timed and echoed my opinion 100%.  I rarely read more than the first 7-10 comments on articles, if any at all, because of the bashing and moaning.  Thank YOU!!!

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3 hours ago, LukKrueng said:

?? Are you talking about re-entry permit?? because that's much lower than 8000 baht, and it's good for as many times as you want in a year. In the late 80's to beginning of 90's there was a 1000 baht travel tax for Thai citizens for every time they left Thailand, but that's long gone..

That's 5,700 baht for multiple reentry permit and endorsement plus about 2500 baht for an Indian visa. 

 

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6 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

I'm loath to criticise the column, wry humour is one of the great British gifts to the world and you usually do it a great service, but in places this week it sounds like you're harbouring a mean streak. Hoping for a return to your usual form next week. 

I stopped reading the column since the Anti-pensioner rant.

Sounds like OP's had a fright from the authorities for no toeing the Prayut party love line.

Glad I didn't read this one.

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On 8/10/2019 at 11:02 PM, Orton Rd said:

' Of course this will fall on deaf ears for some. But please stop bashing Thailand and saying how bad it is. It is not. take a deep breath and be positive. Thailand is better than ever. '

 

What is better than ever? not the exchange rates, unless you want to go back to 1925, not the road deaths, not the vast wealth inequality, immigration, don't make me laugh. The government maybe and the higher ups, not unless you are a masochist. Education system definitely not, inflation no, interest rates, hardly. Some things need to be 'bashed', the TM30 nonsense for one. Carry on with the rosy spec reports, but I am not convinced. Valid criticism is not hate or bashing is it, neither is trying to improve the lot of ex pats.

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23 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The Op has pointed out that Thailand is not quite as negative as many posters who repeatedly complain suggest it is.

If it was not that negative then there wouldn't be MANY posters who repeatedly complain.  Would there?

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57 minutes ago, car720 said:
On 8/11/2019 at 1:56 PM, richard_smith237 said:

The Op has pointed out that Thailand is not quite as negative as many posters who repeatedly complain suggest it is.

If it was not that negative then there wouldn't be MANY posters who repeatedly complain.  Would there?

 

That was one of the points of the Op... That MANY posters complain for the sake of complaining without any real balance. 

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1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

That was one of the points of the Op... That MANY posters complain for the sake of complaining without any real balance. 

Exactly, if they could blame Thailand for their hemorrhoids, many would. Some have not a single positive thing to say about Thailand and yet they are still here.  Complaining for complaining's sake. 

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On 8/10/2019 at 3:46 PM, Mitkof Island said:

Oh God you just unleashed all the Thai bar stool bashers. RUN!

 

 Na mate ,  they are mostly your regular TVforum, preachers/ posters. 

  Travel 6000 miles to go to bars,   what ever next,  you could not make that one up matey ...555

 

 

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