neeray Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, rabas said: If you were in his shoes they would do the same to you. Where's the proof that it wasn't suicide? Speculation is rampant. I'll hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: 9 hours ago, surangw said: well, he won't implicate any others now No, but the contents of his safe will. What contents? The safe was found retroactively empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, rabas said: 9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: 9 hours ago, surangw said: well, he won't implicate any others now No, but the contents of his safe will. What contents? The safe was found retroactively empty What safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, rabas said: Just now, rabas said: 9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: 9 hours ago, surangw said: well, he won't implicate any others now No, but the contents of his safe will. What contents? The safe was found retroactively empty What safe? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 President Donald Trump, who has always had a taste for conspiracy theories, took the extraordinary step of retweeting people suggesting the Clintons were involved. The President of the United States is amplifying conspiracy theories suggesting his political enemies committed murder. This is one of the nuttiest things Trump has done on Twitter and in itself proves he’s completely unfit to serve. https://www.news.com.au/world/beyond-astounding-why-was-jeffrey-epstein-taken-off-suicide-watch/news-story/6a4bdf016d1b5f6744ee28da5faeb67d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: President Donald Trump, who has always had a taste for conspiracy theories, took the extraordinary step of retweeting people suggesting the Clintons were involved. The President of the United States is amplifying conspiracy theories suggesting his political enemies committed murder. This is one of the nuttiest things Trump has done on Twitter and in itself proves he’s completely unfit to serve. https://www.news.com.au/world/beyond-astounding-why-was-jeffrey-epstein-taken-off-suicide-watch/news-story/6a4bdf016d1b5f6744ee28da5faeb67d A survey of social media seems to indicate almost everyone is convinced Epstein was killed. And many of those people are assuming the Clinton's had a hand in it. But so many powerful people were compromised by the Epstein trial. The Clinton's really would have been lucky to have gotten to the front of the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Can't find it now. Earlier, I came across a photo of the corpse. Looked the poor guy beat himself to death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius verus Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 As soon as he was refused bail people would have been laying bets on his life expectancy. He knew too much about some of the most well known and powerful men in the world. Alot of hi-so on both sides of the Atlantic slept snuggly in their beds last night. How could an inmate just recently off suicide watch get hold of a belt or anything to hang himself with. Was there a chair in his cell or a closet? Too convenient.....as usual. You can buy anything in this world including your own form of justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, canuckamuck said: A survey of social media seems to indicate almost everyone is convinced Epstein was killed. And many of those people are assuming the Clinton's had a hand in it. But so many powerful people were compromised by the Epstein trial. The Clinton's really would have been lucky to have gotten to the front of the line. Yes; with the growing list of "buddies" Epstein didn't stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattayabeerbacon Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 #METOOMAFIA killed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 10 hours ago, wisperone said: One of the benefits of living in Thailand. He could have easily bought his way out of this situation and gone on with life happily ever after. If you know anything about this case, you'll know that he did buy his way out of it in Florida. Lame attempt to bring up Thailand when this case has nothing to do with Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster59 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 Disgraced money manager Jeffrey Epstein dead in apparent suicide By Sarah N. Lynch and Karen Freifeld Hospital staff is seen near a medical examiner car outside New York Presbyterian-Lower Manhattan Hospital, where Jeffrey Epstein's body was transported before being moved to a medical examiner's office in Manhattan borough of New York City, New York, U.S., August 10, 2019. REUTERS/Jeenah Moon NEW YORK (Reuters) - Disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein was found dead on Saturday after an apparent suicide in the New York jail cell where he was being held without bail on sex-trafficking charges, and a source said he was not on suicide watch at the time of his death. Epstein, 66, was found unresponsive in his cell in the Special Housing Unit of the Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) and taken to a hospital where he was pronounced dead, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, which operates the lower Manhattan jail, said in a statement. It declined to comment further. Epstein, a well-connected money manager dogged for years by allegations that he sexually abused girls and young women, was found hanging by his neck, according to the source, who was not authorized to speak on the record. The financier, who once counted Republican President Donald Trump and Democratic former President Bill Clinton as friends, was arrested on July 6 and pleaded not guilty to charges of sex trafficking involving dozens of underage girls as young as 14, from at least 2002 to 2005. The FBI and the Department of Justice's Inspector General were opening investigations into his death, U.S. Attorney General William Barr said, adding that he was "appalled" to learn of the apparent suicide in federal custody. Last month, Epstein was found unconscious on the floor of his jail cell with marks on his neck, and officials were investigating that incident as a possible suicide or assault. "Mr. Epstein’s death raises serious questions that must be answered," Barr said in a statement. Even though Epstein was found unconscious last month, he had recently been taken off suicide watch, a special set of procedures for inmates in danger of taking their own life, according to the source. The financier was in a cell by himself when his body was found. It was not immediately clear why Epstein was taken off suicide watch. At the MCC, two jail guards are required to make separate checks on all prisoners every 30 minutes, but that procedure was not followed overnight, according to the source. In addition, every 15 minutes guards are required to make another check on prisoners who are on suicide watch. Guards generally remove any prisoner placed on suicide watch from the Special Housing Unit where Epstein was housed, according to a Twitter post by Preet Bharara, a former Manhattan-based U.S. attorney. The unit separates inmates such as accused sex offenders from the general population for their protection. Aja Davis, a spokeswoman for the New York City Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, said she could not say how Epstein died before her office examined the body. INVESTIGATION TO CONTINUE Epstein was arrested on July 6 at a New Jersey airport after taking a private plane from Paris. Last month, a judge refused Epstein's request to release him on bail and allow him to live under 24-hour guard in his opulent townhouse on Manhattan's Upper East Side. The financier was appealing that ruling. The indictment accused Epstein of knowingly recruiting underage women to engage in sex acts with him, sometimes over a period of years while paying the women for each encounter. Prosecutors said a search of his townhouse, conducted under a warrant, uncovered evidence of hundreds, and perhaps thousands, of nude photographs of “what appeared to be underage girls,” including some photos catalogued on compact discs and kept in a locked safe. In a court filing on July 25, the government said it was pursuing an "ongoing investigation of uncharged individuals" in connection with the case. That investigation, by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Manhattan, will continue despite Epstein's death, a different source familiar with the matter said. "Today’s events are disturbing, and we are deeply aware of their potential to present yet another hurdle to giving Epstein’s many victims their day in court," Geoffrey Berman, the U.S. Attorney in Manhattan, said in a statement. "Our investigation of the conduct charged in the indictment – which included a conspiracy count – remains ongoing." In addition to Trump and Clinton, Epstein has socialized with L Brands founder Les Wexner over the years, and according to court papers, with Britain's Prince Andrew. None of them was mentioned in the indictment against Epstein. The charges were announced more than a decade after he pleaded guilty in Florida to state charges of solicitation of prostitution from a minor in a deal with prosecutors that has been widely criticized as too lenient. One of the Florida prosecutors, Alexander Acosta, resigned as U.S. labor secretary in July as the deal came under fresh scrutiny after Epstein's arrest in New York. His death came a day after the unsealing of a court filing in which a woman who accused Epstein of keeping her as a sex slave said one of the financier's associates had instructed her to have sex with at least a half-dozen prominent men. The claim by Virginia Giuffre came in a deposition that was included in about 2,000 pages of documents related to her defamation lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell, the associate whom Giuffre said helped Epstein procure girls for sex. Lawyers for Maxwell did not respond to several phone and email requests for comment. (Additional reporting by Jan Wolfe and Lucia Mutikani in Washington and Alex Dobuzinskis in Los Angeles; Writing by Frank McGurty; Editing by Sonya Hepinstall and Jonathan Oatis) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-08-11 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 There was very little detail of fat andy with his arm around an under age girl on the BBC other than the palace denies everything as rich noncers get very twitchy ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 All that goes around comes around. Evil ultimately never escapes justice. Too bad it's a Coward this one was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, jerojero said: Evil ultimately never escapes justice Unless your wealthy. -OJ Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Who cares. Best outcome simply that this vermin is gone. How does a guy on suicide watch kill himself? Maybe the first time was botched, second time worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 You could power a wind farm on the sighs of relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 "Epstein was inside the most secure prison in the U.S. and he was an extremely high-profile inmate. He was in the most secure area of that prison and he was also on suicide watch. There is absolutely no way he could have died by hanging without him being stopped by prison security." The camera in his cell watching him also 'malfunctioned'. And the three guards normally on duty for suicide watch on the premises were told they could go home before the event. I would personally find it easier to believe we are ruled by alien lizard people, than Epstein topped himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, Mosha said: You could power a wind farm on the sighs of relief. True, only the lawyers and media vultures are crying in their soup today over the lost revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, jerojero said: Who cares. Best outcome simply that this vermin is gone. Best outcome would have been Andy, Bill, and Hillary getting jailed on his evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 It's not over. Many Civil law suits will be forthcoming. The victims want some payback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 41 minutes ago, BritManToo said: "Epstein was inside the most secure prison in the U.S. and he was an extremely high-profile inmate. He was in the most secure area of that prison and he was also on suicide watch. There is absolutely no way he could have died by hanging without him being stopped by prison security." The camera in his cell watching him also 'malfunctioned'. And the three guards normally on duty for suicide watch on the premises were told they could go home before the event. I would personally find it easier to believe we are ruled by alien lizard people, than Epstein topped himself. Where did that quote come from? And the other information about the camera and the guards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 This was no suicide. We certainly don't need people like this guy, but the types that had him executed are also the scum of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daoyai Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 The deep state taking care of business..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Not likely that this character would kill himself. Much more likely that he was murdered by professionals before he could implicate some very big names in his pedophile antics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Best outcome would have been Andy, Bill, and Hillary getting jailed on his evidence. They’d have to be guilty first. But let’s dream up guilt why don’t we. Or wait for the evidence SDNY already have in their possession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Yinn said: Good. It's a pity he didn't have the chance to spend more time in jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 It’s not all bad news: 1. A vile piece of excrement is dead. 2. His rights to privacy, his 5th Amendment rights not to provide evidence to incriminate himself are dead, his right to challenge searches of his properties and papers are dead, the illegal and strangely lenient plea deal he cut (that gave immunity to others) is dead. 3. Maybe 10% of Americans had eyes on where his prosecution was going, the number with eyes on this case just stepped up to almost everyone. 4. Barr has got good reason now to regret his earlier decision to refuse to recuse himself from this case, he now is the person who is ultimately accountable for Epstein’s death in custody. 5. A big scandal has just become a mega scandal. This isn’t going away. Stay tuned (assuming you can tune out on this, which I doubt, I and I’m sure most are now very much following this case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, alfalfa19 said: Not likely that this character would kill himself. Much more likely that he was murdered by professionals before he could implicate some very big names in his pedophile antics. He was already identified as a suicide risk, I suspect (without evidence) that the very most likely explanation is the deliberate negligence of his suicide monitoring. The sin of omission is far harder to prove, much less get a conviction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: It's not over. Many Civil law suits will be forthcoming. The victims want some payback. Agreed, and too Epstein is no longer able to fight disclosure of evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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