British PM Johnson to meet Ireland's Varadkar over Brexit: report

[puipuitom]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

While your brexiteer propaganda spin on the above is nonsense, tell me again, what was the result of Eire’s second vote?

Percentages please...

Brexiteers will NEVER accept the idea, people can change their minds - especially when got the REAL information -, as THAT... will be the basis to fotrget Brexit forever. 

 

Why you donot add the link ? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-eighth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland

 

Votes	%
Yes	1,214,268	67.13%
No	594,606	32.87%
Valid votes	1,808,874	99.60%
Invalid or blank votes	7,224	0.40%
Total votes	1,816,098	100.00%
Registered voters/turnout	3,078,132	59%

[Loiner]

Nah, events have proved the uk cannot be trusted to honour any agreement they negotiate. 
 
Eire’s interests are supported by the only deal on offer.
 
I’m sure the Taoiseach will make that clear to boris.    

There is no Deal, it went months ago. Ireland and the EU will be stuck with whatever the UK gives them when we Leave.
Another loss for the Republicans and another chip on your shoulder to add to the others. You can go back to crying in your Guinness and singing old rebel songs in the back room of the pub.

[Bluespunk]

7 minutes ago, Loiner said:

There is no Deal, it went months ago. Ireland and the EU will be stuck with whatever the UK gives them when we Leave.
Another loss for the Republicans and another chip on your shoulder to add to the others. You can go back to crying in your Guinness and singing old rebel songs in the back room of the pub.

Assumptions on your part and not only on the future of the deal negotiated by the uk govt.

 

I don’t drink so not much chance of any of the above in your final sentence happening. 

 

No chips here, Eire has its guarantees in the deal negotiated by the british govt and the support of the EU. 

 

The Good Friday Agreement isn’t going away and the consequences of brexit upon will not be forgotten by the govt of Eire. 

 

I’m sure they will continue to ensure that their concerns are included in any future attempts by the uk to negotiate a trade deal with the EU. 

[CG1 Blue]

12 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Assumptions on your part and not only on the future of the deal negotiated by the uk govt.

 

I don’t drink so not much chance of any of the above in your final sentence happening. 

 

No chips here, Eire has its guarantees in the deal negotiated by the british govt and the support of the EU. 

 

The Good Friday Agreement isn’t going away and the consequences of brexit upon will not be forgotten by the govt of Eire. 

 

I’m sure they will continue to ensure that their concerns are included in any future attempts by the uk to negotiate a trade deal with the EU. 

You must know that with the UK being a parliamentary democracy, the HoC has to ratify any deal (you can thank ardent remainer Gina Miller for ensuring this process was adhered to).

The EU's deal that May and Robbins capitulated to wasn't ratified by the HoC despite 3 attempts, and so there is currently no agreed WAG between the EU and the UK. There is a proposed WAG, but that's all. 

The EU / Ireland need to forget about saving face and admit that solutions to the Irish border can be found (and probably already have been). This nonsense that without the backstop the GFA will be broken is simply a paper tiger. 

[Bluespunk]

9 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

You must know that with the UK being a parliamentary democracy, the HoC has to ratify any deal (you can thank ardent remainer Gina Miller for ensuring this process was adhered to).

The EU's deal that May and Robbins capitulated to wasn't ratified by the HoC despite 3 attempts, and so there is currently no agreed WAG between the EU and the UK. There is a proposed WAG, but that's all. 

The EU / Ireland need to forget about saving face and admit that solutions to the Irish border can be found (and probably already have been). This nonsense that without the backstop the GFA will be broken is simply a paper tiger. 

A solution has been found.

 

There is a deal, it’s still there waiting for the british govt to honour what it negotiated. 

 

Why not let the electorate decide if they wish to accept it or go for no deal... or even remain?

 

boris has no mandate for his no deal exit strategy, perfect opportunity for him to get one. 

 

Call an election johnson, prove the people support your strategy. 

[sawadee1947]

10 hours ago, AGareth2 said:

thought the English Channel was narrower than the Irish Sea

????? NI - IRL

[CG1 Blue]

6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

A solution has been found.

 

There is a deal, it’s still there waiting for the british govt to honour what it negotiated. 

 

Why not let the electorate decide if they wish to accept it or go for no deal... or even remain?

 

boris has no mandate for his no deal exit strategy, perfect opportunity for him to get one. 

 

Call an election johnson, prove the people support your strategy. 

Not going to happen. Labour have missed the chance to call for a vote of confidence in order to prevent us leaving on 31st Oct. The next chance they have to call for a vote of confidence will be too close to the A50 deadline, and Boris can just sit on his hands. 

 

There has been some silly talk about getting the Queen to intervene, but she's not going to alienate half of the country by helping the remain cause.  The monarchy is already fragile enough. And besides, she's probably a Brexiteer anyway ????

[Loiner]

I don’t drink so not much chance of any of the above in your final sentence happening. 

I thought you might reply like that. Probably not even a real Irishman.

[tebee]

3 hours ago, Loiner said:

There is no Deal, it went months ago. Ireland and the EU will be stuck with whatever the UK gives them when we Leave.
Another loss for the Republicans and another chip on your shoulder to add to the others. You can go back to crying in your Guinness and singing old rebel songs in the back room of the pub.

if we leave with no deal we break the GFA - how is the UK's word going to be trusted after that ?

 

No deal ill almost certainly result in the reunification of Ireland, the EU will be happy to throw money at them for that, just like it did for the reunification of Germany.

 

The UK will be watching from the sidelines powerless.

[Loiner]

if we leave with no deal we break the GFA - how is the UK's word going to be trusted after that ?
 
No deal ill almost certainly result in the reunification of Ireland, the EU will be happy to throw money at them for that, just like it did for the reunification of Germany.
 
The UK will be watching from the sidelines powerless.

No Deal has nothing at all to do with the GFA, as the UK won’t be erecting any different borders to what the GFA agreed. The UK can be trusted on that.
Certain reunification? Not certain by a long chalk.
EU throwing more money at Ireland? Well it won’t have the 39 Bn it was banking on, or 9 Bn worth of UK contributions, so maybe not.

[tebee]

10 minutes ago, Loiner said:

No Deal has nothing at all to do with the GFA, as the UK won’t be erecting any different borders to what the GFA agreed. The UK can be trusted on that.
Certain reunification? Not certain by a long chalk.
EU throwing more money at Ireland? Well it won’t have the 39 Bn it was banking on, or 9 Bn worth of UK contributions, so maybe not.

Nio deal means there is a legal obligation to have borders . Polls are showing 65% in favor of reunification in case of no deal and the GFA obliges the government to hold a referendum.

Both those sums are small  change in terms of the EU budget and if you think the UK's going to get away without paying the 39 Bn you have another think coming.

[Loiner]

Nio deal means there is a legal obligation to have borders . Polls are showing 65% in favor of reunification in case of no deal and the GFA obliges the government to hold a referendum.
Both those sums are small  change in terms of the EU budget and if you think the UK's going to get away without paying the 39 Bn you have another think coming.

The UK will have no legal obligation for your EU border. We will have left that club and its’ laws.
Your ‘obligation’ to hold a referendum is vague in the GFA. Who knows when that would happen, maybe after the EU demise.
39Bn, yep thunk again and we still owe the EU nowt.

[Bluespunk]

7 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Not going to happen. Labour have missed the chance to call for a vote of confidence in order to prevent us leaving on 31st Oct. The next chance they have to call for a vote of confidence will be too close to the A50 deadline, and Boris can just sit on his hands. 

 

There has been some silly talk about getting the Queen to intervene, but she's not going to alienate half of the country by helping the remain cause.  The monarchy is already fragile enough. And besides, she's probably a Brexiteer anyway ????

Dates and deadlines can change.

[Bluespunk]

6 hours ago, Loiner said:

 

I thought you might reply like that. Probably not even a real Irishman.

 

You “thought”, there’s a first. 

 

And more hackneyed stereotypes of what criteria is required to be a citizen of a country...deary deary me 

[Lancelot01]

17 hours ago, Brigand said:

Some sort of arrangement/deal will eventually be forged at the 11 hour that is acceptable to all sides (even if/when the UK does leave on 31st Oct) that might just cover things for a while till the final FTA is penned. What we are seeing now here is show-boating brinkmanship for the public's consumption on all sides, so the actors can claim toughness in a political sense ... pragmatism will win out eventually with face saving for all, so that everyone can claim victory in a way. There is far too much to lose on all sides and eventually the drama-rama from all will subside. I find it hard to believe that all sides in this will all be belligerent enough hit the nuclear option together just to spite everyone.

I totally agree. 

[metisdead]

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[Handsome Gardener]

On ‎8‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 6:11 AM, Thingamabob said:

Varadkar needs to get real. His biggest trading partner by far is the UK.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/irelands-top-import-partners/

[Handsome Gardener]

22 hours ago, Brigand said:

Some sort of arrangement/deal will eventually be forged at the 11 hour that is acceptable to all sides (even if/when the UK does leave on 31st Oct) that might just cover things for a while till the final FTA is penned. What we are seeing now here is show-boating brinkmanship for the public's consumption on all sides, so the actors can claim toughness in a political sense ... pragmatism will win out eventually with face saving for all, so that everyone can claim victory in a way. There is far too much to lose on all sides and eventually the drama-rama from all will subside. I find it hard to believe that all sides in this will all be belligerent enough hit the nuclear option together just to spite everyone.

For rational people with something to lose you would be right - but Boris is a multi millionaire attention seeking narcissist who would be more than willing to risk it to chance a place in history, whilst being hypnotised by a loon !

 

When it implodes he can waddle off into the sunset and resume his pampered life without a glance back. It's his sheep who will feel the fallout.

 

Underestimating the stupidity of the guy would be a dangerous strategy.

[Handsome Gardener]

18 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

 

 

I notice that you did not capitalise Johnson, UK, Boris, British.

 

Is this coincidence, or are you just being childish?

You need a hobby !

[Scott]

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