Majority of Britons support 'Brexit by any means' poll

[Handsome Gardener]

9 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

You used employment news out of context, and instead of admitting it you've gone off on a tangent. I believe that's called whataboutery these days ????

 

 

 

OK I'll have another go - did unemployment rise - yes or no ?

[Handsome Gardener]

3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

If you read the original posters comments it was he who brought up lies.

 

Yes unemployment went up slightly, hardly worth running to the hills, although many remainers will love that 0.1%.

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peoplenotinwork/unemployment

 

Many EU countries the employment is far worse than the UK's. I suppose that is brexits fault.

 

 

Right so we've finally established that unemployment went up for the first time in over 2 years - there that didn't hurt did it ! CG1 Blue you can stand down - your superior has tidied it up for you.

 

I'm sure the 31,000 people that now don't have a job and will be entering one of the most worrying times of their lives, will appreciate your statement that its' hardly worth running to the hills for - selfish to the end eh ?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Handsome Gardener said:

Right so we've finally established that unemployment went up for the first time in over 2 years - there that didn't hurt did it ! CG1 Blue you can stand down - your superior has tidied it up for you.

 

I'm sure the 31,000 people will appreciate your statement that its' hardly worth running to the hills for - selfish to the end eh ?

More worrying is the productivity of UK businesses continues its slide.

 

 

[Handsome Gardener]

3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

We are still waiting for your reasons on why the EU is so great and why we should remain shackled to it.

They have been listed on numerous occasions - or google them. You could start with trade deals and medical research and go on from there (how are the new trade deals coming along, any signed yet ?) ….but be warned you're going to be busy! 

 

So despite my 10th request you still cannot explain why the pound is getting trashed and not flying ? 

 

Can anyone else in the leave camp help him out  (11th request ……)

 

[Handsome Gardener]

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

You do post some nonsense - and never answer a question.

 

 

You must be a remoaner.

Wow I may have found my man - Jip99 I have made 11 requests to ascertain why the pound is crashing and not rising in light of the forthcoming brexit dawn.

 

As you have accused others of not answering questions, can you please answer it for me - you're my last hope ….

 

TVM

[Handsome Gardener]

10 hours ago, Loiner said:

There just won’t be another referendum. You’ve seen the last one. We’ll be out before there’s another GE. And all will be well.

Hmmmm it may be that Judge McTavish is about to launch a 10" spanner into the leavers spokes - he's even kindly agreed to prioritise it  - love them scots !

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1165133/brexit-news-remainer-MPs-court-case-Scotland-Boris-Johnson-no-deal

[evadgib]

I recon it'll start recovering around Valentines day, Grouse.

HTH ????

[Jip99]

2 minutes ago, Handsome Gardener said:

Wow I may have found my man - Jip99 I have made 11 requests to ascertain why the pound is crashing and not rising in light of the forthcoming brexit dawn.

 

As you have accused others of not answering questions, can you please answer it for me - you're my last hope ….

 

TVM

 

 

No problem.

 

 

You are asking the wrong question.

 

You fully understand the reasons for speculation in Sterling that is causing a drop in the exchange rate.

 

Sterling cannot rise, to it's realistic level, until the uncertainty, speculation and scare-mongering has worked it's way out of the system. That will only begin to happen sometime after 31 October.

 

I don't think that you will find any Brexiteer who said that Sterling would 'rise' as a direct, or immediate result, of Brexit.

 

I hope that helps.

[Chomper Higgot]

26 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

No problem.

 

 

You are asking the wrong question.

 

You fully understand the reasons for speculation in Sterling that is causing a drop in the exchange rate.

 

Sterling cannot rise, to it's realistic level, until the uncertainty, speculation and scare-mongering has worked it's way out of the system. That will only begin to happen sometime after 31 October.

 

I don't think that you will find any Brexiteer who said that Sterling would 'rise' as a direct, or immediate result, of Brexit.

 

I hope that helps.

‘Sometime after October 31st’.

 

How many rears after?

[Jip99]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

‘Sometime after October 31st’.

 

How many rears after?

 

 

"rears"

 

Freudian slip ??  ????

 

To answer your question........ IMO  .... the rate will start to recover in the first year.   How long it takes to get to pre-Brexit is a different answer, and that may be "never", or it may be 2/3 years  -  depends on many factors within the global economy, not just the UK.

 

Let me be clear, "never" is one of those potential risks to Brexit that was identified and is worth taking for exiting the EU.  Most Brexiteers would probably say 3-5 years for things to settle down. The key exchange rates are GBP/USD and GBP/EU.......... post-Brexit, the latter is more likely to be affected by what happens in the EU.

[Laughing Gravy]

55 minutes ago, Handsome Gardener said:

Right so we've finally established that unemployment went up for the first time in over 2 years - there that didn't hurt did it ! CG1 Blue you can stand down - your superior has tidied it up for you.

 

I'm sure the 31,000 people that now don't have a job and will be entering one of the most worrying times of their lives, will appreciate your statement that its' hardly worth running to the hills for - selfish to the end eh ?

I guess you are the glass is half empty type of person. Now unless you have a crystal ball which you seem to be insinuating that you do, what circumstances have these 31,000 people lost their job. I suppose you will say its the B word, as many remainers blame everything on Brexit.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

"rears"

 

Freudian slip ??  ????

 

To answer your question........ IMO  .... the rate will start to recover in the first year.   How long it takes to get to pre-Brexit is a different answer, and that may be "never", or it may be 2/3 years  -  depends on many factors within the global economy, not just the UK.

 

Let me be clear, "never" is one of those potential risks to Brexit that was identified and is worth taking for exiting the EU.  Most Brexiteers would probably say 3-5 years for things to settle down. The key exchange rates are GBP/USD and GBP/EU.......... post-Brexit, the latter is more likely to be affected by what happens in the EU.

Well hats off for at least giving an opinion.

 

Though your belief the pound will return to pre-Brexit values is fanciful.

 

The UK would need a market and a functioning economy for that.

 

 

 

 

[soalbundy]

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well hats off for at least giving an opinion.

 

Though your belief the pound will return to pre-Brexit values is fanciful.

 

The UK would need a market and a functioning economy for that.

 

 

 

 

well some think America is heading for a recession so that market is out but it doesn't matter there is one on their door step.....oh wait

[tebee]

An excellent analysis of the Telegraph poll and how it was rigged 

 

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/peter-kellner-on-telegraph-no-deal-brexit-comres-poll-1-6213098

 

Seldom does life so precisely resemble art. Today's Daily Telegraph front page headline proclaims: "Public backs Johnson to shut down parliament for Brexit". Its lead story begins: "Boris Johnson has the support of more than half the public to deliver Brexit by any means, including suspending Parliament, a poll has suggested".

 

In fact, this finding comes straight from the Sir Humphrey Appleby playbook on how to rig a poll. In one episode of Yes Prime Minister, he explains to his sidekick how to show the public want to reintroduce national service. 

[Jip99]

54 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well hats off for at least giving an opinion.

 

Though your belief the pound will return to pre-Brexit values is fanciful.

 

The UK would need a market and a functioning economy for that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your latter point is perfectly valid and is what I based my opinion on......

[Jip99]

27 minutes ago, tebee said:

An excellent analysis of the Telegraph poll and how it was rigged 

 

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/peter-kellner-on-telegraph-no-deal-brexit-comres-poll-1-6213098

 

Seldom does life so precisely resemble art. Today's Daily Telegraph front page headline proclaims: "Public backs Johnson to shut down parliament for Brexit". Its lead story begins: "Boris Johnson has the support of more than half the public to deliver Brexit by any means, including suspending Parliament, a poll has suggested".

 

In fact, this finding comes straight from the Sir Humphrey Appleby playbook on how to rig a poll. In one episode of Yes Prime Minister, he explains to his sidekick how to show the public want to reintroduce national service. 

 

 

 

Nothing biased in that report then......... or other polls.

 

 

Only a fool would take comfort from ANY poll that was produced by the media........... do you take comfort in polls, Tebee ?

[Jip99]

12 minutes ago, Victornoir said:

No
As a European, I wish you to leave as soon as possible.
Not by stupid xenophobia, the opposite of the EU project, but a lack of respect for the vote would cause troubles that would end up splashing us.

Note that the exit now minority will cause troubles too, but in a new context of competition, they will give us an additional advantage.

Leave now. We will remain bound but to pretend to return you will have to accept the lesson of humility that the next years will give you.

 

 

So much arrogance in such an unintelligible post

[transam]

18 minutes ago, Victornoir said:

No
As a European, I wish you to leave as soon as possible.
Not by stupid xenophobia, the opposite of the EU project, but a lack of respect for the vote would cause troubles that would end up splashing us.

Note that the exit now minority will cause troubles too, but in a new context of competition, they will give us an additional advantage.

Leave now. We will remain bound but to pretend to return you will have to accept the lesson of humility that the next years will give you.

"The bind will never see", thankfully the UK has good vision....

[transam]

1 minute ago, Victornoir said:

What arrogance?

English is not my native language but with half a brain you should be able to understand its meaning.

Google it...

[Loiner]

No
As a European, I wish you to leave as soon as possible.
Not by stupid xenophobia, the opposite of the EU project, but a lack of respect for the vote would cause troubles that would end up splashing us.
Note that the exit now minority will cause troubles too, but in a new context of competition, they will give us an additional advantage.
Leave now. We will remain bound but to pretend to return you will have to accept the lesson of humility that the next years will give you.

Well we have an accord on the need to get out of your bloc ASAP. Some of our politicians are working towards that. Others are in league with your EU plot to Remain.
Interesting that you think lack of respect for the vote would cause troubles that would splash you. Why didn’t anybody in the EU feel that way when you disrespected other countries votes against the EU?
We won’t be coming back ‘cos it’s very unlikely your EU will still be around for very long.

[Pattaya46]

13 hours ago, Loiner said:

This thread is full of <deleted> Remainers who for months have been telling us they want another referendum because the polls show the country changed its mind and now wants to Remain. //

3 years than pools go up and down between 45-55 and 55-45. Another pool soon probably will give the opposite result. 

 

And BTW this interesting graph by Bloomberg on what may happen soon :

 

[Jip99]

19 minutes ago, Victornoir said:

What arrogance?

English is not my native language but with half a brain you should be able to understand its meaning.

 

 

That is where I am going wrong..... clearly more difficult for a full brain.

 

 

You will be OK though.

[Loiner]

Project fear.

The EU and federasts can think up your own name for predictions of the EU demise. We have dibs on ‘Project Fear’.

[beautifulthailand99]

2 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

No problem.

 

 

You are asking the wrong question.

 

You fully understand the reasons for speculation in Sterling that is causing a drop in the exchange rate.

 

Sterling cannot rise, to it's realistic level, until the uncertainty, speculation and scare-mongering has worked it's way out of the system. That will only begin to happen sometime after 31 October.

 

I don't think that you will find any Brexiteer who said that Sterling would 'rise' as a direct, or immediate result, of Brexit.

 

I hope that helps.

That's around the time the Unicorns start to hatch. I do hope BoJo gives her the first one (Unicorn) that is for keeping above all this with her usual dignity. She should summon Farage and get him arrested and put in the Tower -with a snarl  "no-one least you Mr Farage makes fun of my dear late mummy, and besides which you and your horrible people are threatening to break up my lovely United Kingdom/ Take him away!"  and then she throws a milkshake over him and cackles.....as a stout Yeoman of the Guard pulls him out of the State Room. 

 

YES !

[vogie]

57 minutes ago, Victornoir said:

What arrogance?

English is not my native language but with half a brain you should be able to understand its meaning.

But it's like the Hunchback of Notre Dame telling everyone else to sit up straight, it makes no sense.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, tebee said:

An excellent analysis of the Telegraph poll and how it was rigged 

Every vote or opinion poll with a result of leave is rigged and the people involved were stupid and misled.

Every vote or opinion poll with a result stay is honest and intelligent.

 

Entirely sums up liberals/socialists, only they are ever right.

 

 

[Jip99]

26 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

That's around the time the Unicorns start to hatch. I do hope BoJo gives her the first one (Unicorn) that is for keeping above all this with her usual dignity. She should summon Farage and get him arrested and put in the Tower -with a snarl  "no-one least you Mr Farage makes fun of my dear late mummy, and besides which you and your horrible people are threatening to break up my lovely United Kingdom/ Take him away!"  and then she throws a milkshake over him and cackles.....as a stout Yeoman of the Guard pulls him out of the State Room. 

 

YES !

 

 

 

Put the cork back in...... you appear to rambling...

[vogie]

8 minutes ago, Victornoir said:

Blah.
Let's avoid complex discussions with you.
You want to leave quickly.
I want you to leave quickly.
So, there is no problem.

I wouldn't have thought that insulting us is classed as complex discussions.

[beautifulthailand99]

27 minutes ago, vogie said:

But it's like the Hunchback of Notre Dame telling everyone else to sit up straight, it makes no sense.

If I had it in me to give you a like for humour then that would surely deserve one. ????

[beautifulthailand99]

15 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

 

Put the cork back in...... you appear to rambling...

I'm sober and more importantly unbanned - it was a one-finger salute pic along with Farage's racist refugee poster that got me a 3 dayer. But not the lovely Grace Petrie song which I accompanied it with and I dedicate with love to all the Brexiters on here and to Scott who has a hard job to moderate the rivers of nonsense that flow through these parts.