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NokNokJoke

South Dakota 'residency', and Drivers license, in less than one day

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3 hours ago, keemapoot said:

Are there any South Dakota state income tax requirements? In other words, if you establish residency there, do you also have to pay state income tax?

 

*edit, just read you stated SD has no state income tax. Will verify this and if so, this sounds great for a US presence. Thanks for this.

"Seven states have no state income tax at all: Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming.

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Thanks for the info, it will be helpful on the off chance I'm in S Dakota and need a driving license. The chances of that are , however, lower than winning Powerball.

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Thank you for your important contribution to this thread!

Thanks for the info, it will be helpful on the off chance I'm in S Dakota and need a driving license. The chances of that are , however, lower than winning Powerball.


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17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Apparently but if the REAL ID program is really meant to impose strict FEDERAL standards on all states and all people getting that, something sounds really fishy. Sorry. I don't like all those rules either, don't get me wrong. Things can be very difficult for expats. 

 

A passport card is RealID-compliant. $30 for ten years, so $3/year. I'll stipulate that a passport card is in no way a substitute for a passport.

 

A Global Entry card is RealID-compliant. $100 for five years, but includes TSA Pre, and GE, obviously.

 

My state issues DL's in both RealID, and non-RealID formats. RealID format, in my state, requires more/additional 'residence/citizen' proof.

 

As of Oct. 1, 2020, as things stand now, if using a state DL to fly domestically it must be RealID-compliant. Obviously a passport is RealID-compliant, as are certain other available IDs.

 

Documentation required before issuing a license or ID card (Wiki)
Before a card can be issued, the applicant must provide the following documentation:

A photo ID, or a non-photo ID that includes full legal name and birthdate
Documentation of birthdate
Documentation of legal status and Social Security number
Documentation showing name and principal residence address
 

 

 

 

On 8/13/2019 at 9:40 AM, NokNokJoke said:

you can only renew it in South Dakota, and again with a one day 'residency'.

 

So you cannot renew online? You have to physically visit SD to renew?

 

Any cons? Some states draw on the DL data base for jury duty summonses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Voter registration is optional, and on the same application form but in a separate area. I was told not to enter anything, but go to a separate office to register.
You do have to show up in SD for one day to renew the license. Maybe in 5 years I'll be back in the USA or not worried about a us license?



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My state would also not not give me a real Id license. I had been using a PO box for years, then they required a physical residential address they could verify online. They rejected UPS store addresses. I finally ended up using the office address of the company I worked for at the time, which was in a mixed use area. Later they closed that office....I kept using the address...but had a PO box on file for mail. The new tenants probably never got any mail for me.....but I don't like doing shady stuff. I did pay state taxes there although not lived there for years.

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23 minutes ago, NokNokJoke said:

My state would also not not give me a real Id license. I had been using a PO box for years, then they required a physical residential address they could verify online. They rejected UPS store addresses. I finally ended up using the office address of the company I worked for at the time, which was in a mixed use area. Later they closed that office....I kept using the address...but had a PO box on file for mail. The new tenants probably never got any mail for me.....but I don't like doing shady stuff. I did pay state taxes there although not lived there for years.

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Kudos for finding a creative but dodgy solution!

I reckon most expats have had to play some games to deal with the anti-expat policies in the U.S.

Your state sounds normal for real I.D.

The real question is if there are any other states than South Dakota that seem to have slipped through the cracks of actually enforcing the STANDARD Real I.D. requirements.

Thanks to the OP for news of this discovery, as long as it lasts anyway. 

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It's the full-time RVrs go to state. Much of the post is totally confusing to me.

 

I'd thought about SD just too snobish to move there.

 

Not especially welcoming of Asians or mixed marriages from my understanding.

 

SD will keep these laws in place as long as possible it's the mother's milk of the state. Full-time RV crowd feeds it.

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6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Kudos for finding a creative but dodgy solution!

I reckon most expats have had to play some games to deal with the anti-expat policies in the U.S.

Your state sounds normal for real I.D.

The real question is if there are any other states than South Dakota that seem to have slipped through the cracks of actually enforcing the STANDARD Real I.D. requirements.

Thanks to the OP for news of this discovery, as long as it lasts anyway. 

Texas and Nevada but not quite as easy. Nevada has no state tax.

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Just now, Number 6 said:

It's the full-time RVrs go to state. Much of the post is totally confusing to me.

 

I'd thought about SD just too snobish to move there.

 

Not especially welcoming of Asians or mixed marriages from my understanding.

 

SD will keep these laws in place as long as possible it's the mother's milk of the state. Full-time RV crowd feeds it.

Makes sense but it might be interesting to hear how exactly they got to have an obvious EXCEPTION, indeed a really big one, as far as requirements for federal real I.D. 

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Just now, Number 6 said:

Texas and Nevada but not quite as easy. Nevada has no state tax.

That's interesting. If anyone has done such a thing in those states, please post details. 

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14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That's interesting. If anyone has done such a thing in those states, please post details. 

Just Google full-time RV and there will be mountains of information.

 

South Dakota, Florida, Texas, Nevada, Delaware. I think that's the list. Some other advantages in Delaware and Wyoming.

 

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19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Makes sense but it might be interesting to hear how exactly they got to have an obvious EXCEPTION, indeed a really big one, as far as requirements for federal real I.D. 

No exemption. I'm not certain but I'd think it boils down to states rights. They have so much revenue coming in from the RV crowd that the state is willing to be penalized however. Also possible your ID might not be accepted at airports but generally those people are as thick as a brick anyway.

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3 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

No exemption. I'm not certain but I'd think it boils down to states rights. They have so much revenue coming in from the RV crowd that the state is willing to be penalized however. Also possible your ID might not be accepted at airports but generally those people are as thick as a brick anyway.

I'm sure you're wrong. Real I.D. is a FEDERAL standard. I'm also sure that if you do have a Real I.D. license there is no reason for anyone to see one from certain states as less legitimate. But sorry I can see the standards are significantly more lax in South Dakota. Maybe there was some kind of lobbying effort by the RV industry to get the feds to allow more lax rules in some states. But I don't see how a state could do that WITHOUT federal buy in. 

 

 

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12 hours ago, NokNokJoke said:

My state would also not not give me a real Id license.

 

I could have qualified for a RealID-compliant DL, but this would have required an in-person visit to the RMV.

 

I was able to renew my DL, non-RealID-compliant, online. Easy choice, given I have a PP, PP Card and GE Card.

 

 

There have been a number of awesome threads here over the years on SD, and other "snow-bird slash RV" friendly states.

 

 

I think it is still pretty easy to get a Thai DL - at least it was for me - based on having a U.S. DL, and then you can use that Thai DL in the U.S. for rentals and driving.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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