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Transport minister says drivers, not vans, are key threat to passenger safety

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17 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

If the vans where fitted with GPS system that where sealed from tampering then the recording of the info could determine speeds between any 2 points,if any van is found to have been speeding actions can be taken against the offending companies and drivers.

The mini vans that run between Chiang Mai and Fang ( VIP company ) are now all fitted with a GPS system that records speed and time taken for the trip.  About 3 years ago every driver with this company was sacked, and only rehired if they passed an actual driving test conducted by an international driving examiner. The trip to Chiang Mai is now no longer a scary experience, but actually an relaxing and pleasant one.  More transport operators need to implement what VIP have done with their mini vans.

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18 hours ago, colinneil said:

Saksayan you should apply to be on mastermind.

If he had not come out with that bloody ridiculous comment, nobody would have been aware that it is the pathetic driving standards to blame, and not the vans.

Name one non 3rd world country where a thai driver would pass the driving test. They would not even get to the part to start the engine because they would forget to put on there safety belts lol

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16 hours ago, mercman24 said:

what an utterly stupid thing to say, we all know its the vans fault every single time, wet road, bad, van slow down, brakes fail, bad van why your brakes not work, driver asleep, bad van, why you not toot horn wake me up, and the list goes on, i would like to know after all these years they came to this conclusion, oh i know, they had a meeting, they very good at holding meetings here, now form a committee.and next year they will be wringing their collective hands ,saying, what went wrong.

Agree,meetings ,a committee, and a conclusion that it should stay as it is.

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19 hours ago, PJPom said:

This chap will not last very long, he actually told the TRUTH ! that will never do.

we have seen that too many times. those in political or powerful positions who speak the truth don't last long here. but congrats to him for actually speaking the truth and admitting the problem is Thais and the fact they straight up can't drive safely instead of blaming everything but the problem. 

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19 hours ago, webfact said:

Saksayam also earlier this month assigned a feasibility study to extend the use of decade-old public transport vans to a maximum of 12 years from the current 10, after operators demanded it be raised to 15 years. He insisted that control over the allowable age of transport vehicles would be stricter. 

September 2018:

https://www.nationthailand.com/national/30355146

  • Colonel Sombat Thanyawan, deputy commander of King’s Guard’s Second Cavalry Division, told a press conference at the Department of Land Transport yesterday that vans more than 10 years old must not be allowed to run on Bangkok streets because they are unsafe, pollute the air and are not insured, which leaves passengers at risk.
  • Operators petitioned Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday, asking him to consider extending the working life of vans from 10 to 15 years if the vehicles were still in good condition. 
  • the LTD and relevant authorities insist old vans must be taken out of service to ensure public safety. 

Whether the operators were correct or not about the capability of their 10 year+ old minibuses can operate safely isn't the ultimate issue because now it's about politics.

PM Prayut had approved the ban and made a number of allowances for their removal to preserve public convenience and minimize operator costs for the switch. Now Prayut is being asked to reverse himself, seemingly without any private brief from the Transport Minister to resolve operator complaints before the Minister went public.

I can see Prayut offering more incentives for the operators to comply with the ban rather than reversing himself. That's what he did with fishing boat owners who either had their fleet numbers cut because of IUU compliance and/or required fleet upgrades because of a newly ratified ILO convention 188. The owners had demanded exemption and threatened to strike.

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Switching to mini buses without better drivers will only result in more passengers killed or injured per accident. 

 

It appears when an accident is investigated and there are no skid marks, it is attributed to brake failure, when the real cause was asleep at the wheel. 

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2 hours ago, MRToMRT said:

In spite of all the dangerous driving I have seen here (and its not just minibuses) I have never seen a police vehicle stop any of them.

 

 

Why would the police stop then, they (police) wouldn't have a clue that anything was wrong, dangerous,  or any law was being broken. 

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Being on the road frequently, I see the occurrence of "Stupid crazy van driver" has definitely decreased over the years, at least for the routes I drive on. Most vans I see nowadays drive disciplined and at legal speeds, after some horrific van accidents in the period 2005 - 2010 if I remember correctly, with the compulsory outcry and corrective measures. Some do tailgate often, but that is an endemic problem with all Thai drivers. Then you have the occasional lunatic, usually in a brand new van, coming up behind you at 150 km/hour, tailgating just meters behind you and after a while wildly swerving over to the adjacent lane without using the turn indicator, and flooring it. This happens most often on the Bkk - Chonburi motorway, I guess with a bunch of terrified farang from Kao-san road. 

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It is about time that the truth was recognised, after all it is the nut behind the wheel that is the danger not the vehicle.

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20 hours ago, Snuller21 said:

First time that I hear that. But so true. Give the drivers a driving test, and see how few will qualify. Maybe one in 20. And then no more Brake Failures.

they would not pass a comprehensive driving test here.....and how does one stop a Thai driver from falling asleep or driving all drugged up???!!!

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2 hours ago, Hockeybik said:

I'll take my chances with a good driver, thank you.

    Yes, who wouldn't but why should it be an 'either or' proposition?  Either you can have safer drivers or safer vehicles--which do you want?  Umm.  I'd like both, please.

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1 minute ago, Libai said:

It is about time that the truth was recognised, after all it is the nut behind the wheel that is the danger not the vehicle.

all vehicles are suppose to have a good test carried out on them IF OVER 7 years old, then same test be carried out yearly.....AND I AGREE it is the idiot behind the wheel who generally causes deaths and accidents .....

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1 hour ago, ubon farang said:

Name one non 3rd world country where a thai driver would pass the driving test. They would not even get to the part to start the engine because they would forget to put on there safety belts lol

simple THEY WOULD NOT PASS a westernised style driving test....

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2 hours ago, manchega said:

yes I have seen us drivers before and you are not much better than the average thai

   I don't drive in Thailand--and certainly not a transport van--so this American is not contributing to the accident rate.  

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A Thai minister who has a brain and tells the truth, how refreshing.

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