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Knife-wielding man goes on Sydney rampage, one woman dead

By Byron Kaye, Paulina Duran

 

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A woman is taken by ambulance, as police officers investigate a scene following reports of a stabbing in Sydney, Australia, August 13, 2019. Dean Lewis/AAP/via REUTERS

 

SYDNEY (Reuters) - A man went on a stabbing rampage in downtown Sydney on Tuesday, killing one woman and wounding another before he was restrained by members of the public, police said, adding they were not treating it as a terrorist incident.

 

The 21-year-old man, who police did not name, was carrying a knife and a computer thumb drive containing information about deadly attacks in North America and New Zealand, police said.

 

But he did not appear to be acting for any terrorist groups and the attack was not being treated as terrorism, police added.

 

“At the end of the day, it’s a horrendous crime and he should pay for that,” New South Wales state police commissioner Mick Fuller told reporters.

 

A 21-year-old woman was found dead in an apartment building and a second woman, 41, was taken to hospital with a stab wound to her back. She was in stable condition, police said.

 

They did not say how the first woman died but said the man was responsible for both attacks. There was no apparent link between the two women.

 

Police were investigating a home about 32 km (20 miles) west of the city where the young man lived with his parents.

 

The man was in custody and expected to be charged with homicide, assault and, depending on the outcome of the investigation, potential terrorism offences, Fuller said.

 

 

The incident brought downtown traffic to a halt in Australia’s biggest city. Video images on Twitter showed a young man running across an intersection and jumping onto a car hood, yelling and waving what appeared to be a long-bladed knife.

 

The man fell to the ground when the car moved and he was confronted by a person holding a chair, the video showed. It was unclear what the man was shouting.

 

Other footage showed the man pinned to the ground by several people holding two chairs and a milk crate on top of him.

 

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison praised those who stopped the assailant.

 

“The attacker is now in police custody following the brave actions of those who were present at the scene and were able to ... restrain him,” he said.

 

A woman who answered the telephone at a Subway sandwich shop near the scene told Reuters, “We saw the person with a knife over there bleeding.

 

“The cops are here and they blocked the road right now, so we can’t go outside. They said, ‘It’s a crime scene, you can’t come out,’” said the woman, who declined to give her name.

 

State police minister David Elliott also praised the people who restrained the man.

 

This is how Sydneysiders respond,” he said. “If you want to behave in this sort of manner, if you want to put life and property at risk, it’s not just the police who will respond.”

 

 

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7 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

he did not appear to be acting for any terrorist groups and the attack was not being treated as terrorism, police added.

He was also heard yelling "Allahu Akbar" at an intersection as passersby tried to apprehend him.

https://7news.com.au/news/crime/police-operation-underway-in-sydney-cbd-as-man-with-knife-taken-into-custody-c-397208

 

No comment, other than to sigh in disbelief. Denial will not solve anything.

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5 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

He was also heard yelling "Allahu Akbar" at an intersection as passersby tried to apprehend him.

https://7news.com.au/news/crime/police-operation-underway-in-sydney-cbd-as-man-with-knife-taken-into-custody-c-397208

 

No comment, other than to sigh in disbelief. Denial will not solve anything.

Read the OP. Terrorism charges may be laid upon completion of the police investigation. To claim Oz Police / security services are in denial of Islamist terrorism is absurd. Note there was an attack in Melbourne not so long ago with people murdered, lots of claims of the killer yelling 'Allahu Akbar', which proved to be false, the killer was a mentally ill ICE addict.

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5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Note there was an attack in Melbourne not so long ago with people murdered, lots of claims of the killer yelling 'Allahu Akbar', which proved to be false, the killer was a mentally ill ICE addict.

Nice deflection, but being an islamic terrorist and an abuser of narcotics/owner of an unstable mind are far from exclusive. In the same way that the right wing terrorists you so often talk about might be a bit nutty and could possibly display alcoholic traits. That doesn't make them less of a terrorist.

 RIP to the victims in this latest rampage. Just one of a spate of disgusting attacks in recent days and weeks including train pushers, tall building pushers, machete attacks on policemen. Sad times we are living in, and after reading the OP again it is quite hopeless expecting any meaningful solution to it all.

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1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

The 21-year-old man, who police did not name

Mert Ney, 21 - it's everywhere in the news

 

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

Other footage showed the man pinned to the ground by several people holding two chairs and a milk crate on top of him.

In Asia they would just scream - not mee, kill the other one

 

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32 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Nice deflection, but being an islamic terrorist and an abuser of narcotics/owner of an unstable mind are far from exclusive. In the same way that the right wing terrorists you so often talk about might be a bit nutty and could possibly display alcoholic traits. That doesn't make them less of a terrorist.

 RIP to the victims in this latest rampage. Just one of a spate of disgusting attacks in recent days and weeks including train pushers, tall building pushers, machete attacks on policemen. Sad times we are living in, and after reading the OP again it is quite hopeless expecting any meaningful solution to it all.

No deflection;, facts. However, I do note your non answer for alleging Oz security forces are in denial - atypical nonsense from the right of centre. Only reason responding to right wing terrorism, been plenty of attacks by such people lately in Western countries.

 

Your last sentence is likely to prove correct, Western intelligence agencies assess Islamist terrorism in Western countries is likely to continua for decades. Oz government yesterday announced additional funding for Oz Special Forces training and equipment.

 

EDIT. Info on the killer...

 

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/sydney-stabbing-live-multiple-people-reportedly-stabbed-in-cbd-20190813-p52goc.html

 

https://www.2gb.com/escaped-mental-health-patient-believed-to-be-sydney-cbd-murderer/

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1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Nice deflection, but being an islamic terrorist and an abuser of narcotics/owner of an unstable mind are far from exclusive. In the same way that the right wing terrorists you so often talk about might be a bit nutty and could possibly display alcoholic traits. That doesn't make them less of a terrorist.

 RIP to the victims in this latest rampage. Just one of a spate of disgusting attacks in recent days and weeks including train pushers, tall building pushers, machete attacks on policemen. Sad times we are living in, and after reading the OP again it is quite hopeless expecting any meaningful solution to it all.

And just imagine if the the nutcase had easy access to guns like in US.

 

that is what nra gun nuts want, everyone to have a gun.

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50 minutes ago, tubby johnson said:

In the video of the incident, the inbred thug shouts "allahu akbar" (hate speech) ... So yeah, religious motivation plays a role. :coffee1:

What makes u say he is inbred?

 

why is allahu akbar hate speech? Do u want free speech or not? Do you want guns for all or not?

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It seems like the 'lone-wolf' attack situation is getting sort of out of control throughout the world. The culprits are almost always either ultra-nationalists/Aryanists etc.  or Islamists.  These two sickening groups are in a kind of race to outdo the other in terror they cause.

 

Many ultra-nationalist leaders/ideologues and many Islamist leaders/ideologues also have blood in their hands, in encouraging or turning a blind eye to such actual or potential terrorists. Will these leaders and ideologues ever be held accountable for all this ? Sadly very unlikely.

 

And, sadly, it seems as if these two groups of people will continue to kill and maim, for at least many more years ????

 

 

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2 minutes ago, JemJem said:

It seems like the 'lone-wolf' attack situation is getting sort of out of control throughout the world. The culprits are almost always either ultra-nationalists/Aryanists etc.  or Islamists.  These two sickening groups are in a kind of race to outdo the other in terror they cause.

 

Many ultra-nationalist leaders/ideologues and many Islamist leaders/ideologues also have blood in their hands, in encouraging or turning a blind eye to such actual or potential terrorists. Will these leaders and ideologues ever be held accountable for all this ? Sadly very unlikely.

 

And, sadly, it seems as if these two groups of people will continue to kill and maim, for at least many more years ????

 

 

Its a bit over the top to put this in an extremist category. He killed one person in his condo. Goes out and wounds 1 person. 

 

Hardly premeditated to kill anyone he could find.

 

1 person dead, 1 injured.

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He had just escaped from a mental health facility. News reports are saying his lawyers will use the nutcase defence. Police may upgrade to terrorist charges after the guy gets out of hospital. Seems a few guys may have given him a bit of a touch up while restraining him.

 

Listening to Oz radio right now on the TuneIn radio app. Well worth downloading if you haven't got it. Also listen to 100.7 from the US from time to time. Not sure what US state it is from though.

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So the guy has escapes from a mental health facility, but the knuckle draggers are out in force with their favorite conspiracies. Quelle surprise. 

 

Fortunately our gun laws mean that a massively deadly weapon was never going to be an option for him, and that regular passers buy could overwhelm him with some force, a chair and a milk crate. A bit different to a week ago in the El Paso where the hero’s of open carry central were nowhere to be seen. 

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3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

He was also heard yelling "Allahu Akbar" at an intersection as passersby tried to apprehend him.

https://7news.com.au/news/crime/police-operation-underway-in-sydney-cbd-as-man-with-knife-taken-into-custody-c-397208

 

No comment, other than to sigh in disbelief. Denial will not solve anything.

Today’s shocking events in Sydney could’ve been far worse if this was America

If it had been some US city and not Sydney, and a man with an assault rifle and not a knife, we’d be having a different conversation right now.

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@evadgib,

 

Do you have a source other then Hopkins saying "Police confirm #SydneyStabbing terrorist was a Muslim convert with terrorist ideologies?"

 

The closest I can find comes from the Telegraph:

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Police said the “terrifying carnage” did not appear to be terror related and that the suspect acted alone. 

However, a senior officer said a thumbdrive linked to the offender contained details of white supremacist massacres in the US and New Zealand. 

 

The Guardian has

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Some witnesses reported that the man had shouted “Allahu Akbar”. Police said they were aware of the reports but had not “captured that as an evidentiary base”. Some observers said the man’s pronunciation suggested he was unfamiliar with the phrase.

 

Hmm; interested in white supremacy and can't pronounce 'Allahu Akbar" properly; not your typical Islamist terrorist!

 

Maybe Hopkins put "Sydney Islamist terrorist attack" into Google and came up with a report on the 2016 attack? Wouldn't be the first time her fact checking has been exposed as woefully inadequate!

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I think everyone has gotten off the beaten track, just by looking at the video, you can see the guy is short of a few quid up top.

 

Shouting Allah Akbah or whatever they shout, is merely a copycat statement from a sick individual who was under some kind of mental treatment, fact of the matter is the government doesn't put money into those institutes as they used to, like the old Callen Park in Rozelle, and these people are free  to walk the streets instead of being institutionalised, all it takes is one not to take their meds or some ICE, get hold of a knife or a gun and they become lethal.

 

So glad to see good old Ozzie's and the likes like the Irish, not cowering and bringing this guy to the ground, well done ozzie, ozzie, ozzie, oi oi oi, don't know what to chant to the Irish guys though, to be sure, to be sure ????

 

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27 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

@evadgib,

 

Do you have a source other then Hopkins saying "Police confirm #SydneyStabbing terrorist was a Muslim convert with terrorist ideologies?"

 

The closest I can find comes from the Telegraph:

 

The Guardian has

 

Hmm; interested in white supremacy and can't pronounce 'Allahu Akbar" properly; not your typical Islamist terrorist!

 

Maybe Hopkins put "Sydney Islamist terrorist attack" into Google and came up with a report on the 2016 attack? Wouldn't be the first time her fact checking has been exposed as woefully inadequate!

Her bigotry, however is as consistent as ever. 

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Yet more evidence that Hopkins' claim "Police confirm #SydneyStabbing terrorist was a Muslim convert with terrorist ideologies" is completely wrong.

 

This time from the Sydney Morning Herald at 10pm Sydney time today (about three hours ago).

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21 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

I think everyone has gotten off the beaten track, just by looking at the video, you can see the guy is short of a few quid up top.

 

Shouting Allah Akbah or whatever they shout, is merely a copycat statement from a sick individual who was under some kind of mental treatment, fact of the matter is the government doesn't put money into those institutes as they used to, like the old Callen Park in Rozelle, and these people are free  to walk the streets instead of being institutionalised, all it takes is one not to take their meds or some ICE, get hold of a knife or a gun and they become lethal.

 

So glad to see good old Ozzie's and the likes like the Irish, not cowering and bringing this guy to the ground, well done ozzie, ozzie, ozzie, oi oi oi, don't know what to chant to the Irish guys though, to be sure, to be sure ????

 

According to the bbc report, three guys from Manchester were instrumental in tackling him. 

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6 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

What the hell you talking about ?

The crazy guy kill the sex worker.

 

and former thai boxer help stop him kill more people.

 

I could have easily just looked out of the window and not done anything," Luke O'Shaughnessy, a former Thai boxer, told the BBC. "I thought we've got to run towards it."

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5 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

so he did some Thai boxing but he was British not Thai and so were all the other guys

if he would have done karate you would have said he is Japanese 

I not say he was Thai. 

Luke not the thai name. Obvious. Or Japanese.

 

Anything else? You drunk tonight?

 

 

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