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19 hours ago, Leaver said:

If they truly do want high end tourists here, a casino with a high roller room would be the only hope.  It's not like Pattaya's lousy Beach is going to attract any high end tourists.  

This idea has been "touted" for well over 20 years now, the expected place for one to open was always the very large hotel in Jomtien as it is owned by the most influential family in Thailand, rumour has it there has been a private casino open to "high end" folks for many years now! :thumbsup:

Or maybe all :wink:

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20 hours ago, Leaver said:

This past high season was the lowest high season I have ever seen for western tourists. 

But the only thing that shows, is how long you have been here.

 

 

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Yesterday evening I went to Made in Thailand - the market area. Most of the shops disappeared. At the bar area still many bars open but without (m)any customers. 

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12 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

That makes it clear. I am not in Thailand at the moment so can't comment properly in the COVID 19 situation but thanks for the clarification.

 

In pre COVID times I don't think many people bought anything. I always thought it was used for the free air con.

The food court brings in pedestrian traffic, and unlike the banks and telecommunication shops, people actually purchase something, and their money is injected into the local Pattaya economy, albeit, cheap eats and small money, but it does generate pedestrian traffic which gives the appearance of a busy retail mall.    

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1 hour ago, TaaSaparot said:

But the only thing that shows, is how long you have been here.

 

 

A couple of seasons as a permanent resident of Pattaya, and 17 years before that as a tourists coming to Pattaya twice a year, once always in high season.  

 

I know others have been here longer, but I stand by my observations, conversations with business owners, and my comments.  

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2 hours ago, CGW said:

This idea has been "touted" for well over 20 years now, the expected place for one to open was always the very large hotel in Jomtien as it is owned by the most influential family in Thailand, rumour has it there has been a private casino open to "high end" folks for many years now! :thumbsup:

Or maybe all :wink:

I can see no reason to not have a casino in Pattaya. 

 

They could do like Vietnam, only non citizens allowed in the gaming areas.   

 

There's no shortage of gambling in Thailand for the locals, it's just the corrupt want it directly benefiting themselves, rather than having legal gambling indirectly benefiting the average Thai tax payer.   

 

If they were to do like Vietnam, the corrupt could still oversee their illegal gambling dens for Thai's. 

 

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2 hours ago, CGW said:

 rumour has it there has been a private casino open to "high end" folks for many years now! :thumbsup:

Or maybe all :wink:

yeah there was one (maybe still is) off Buakhao

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39 minutes ago, Leaver said:

I can see no reason to not have a casino in Pattaya. 

Me either, but it is a business that the Police and army won't to control, so don't think it will happen any time soon, throw in the sheer "two-facedness" & hypocrisy that Thai society is as being a major stumbling block also.

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Covid has brought casinos nearer, in my view. Huge swathes of land; much owned by Chang and leased to Chinese; sit on both sides of 2nd Road between Klang and Central Marina. 

Tightly controlled casino hotels will be the order of the day with foreigner only gambling rooms. Casinos will kick start the rest of the tourist economy.

 

 

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11 hours ago, champers said:

Tightly controlled casino hotels will be the order of the day with foreigner only gambling rooms. Casinos will kick start the rest of the tourist economy.

What would bring them to Pattaya as opposed to say Macau, Singapore or The Philippines? 

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1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

What would bring them to Pattaya as opposed to say Macau, Singapore or The Philippines? 

The obvious, the ladies.

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Just now, champers said:

The obvious, the ladies.

I was thinking of these high rollers who like to chuck money around on gambling, and doubting the average Pattaya lovely would be of much appeal to them. 

But damn, there go the prices again.....

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16 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

yeah there was one (maybe still is) off Buakhao

I have been told by a Thai in the know there are about 4-5 Casinos in the Pattaya area..I have even see one of them myself in a nondescript single story building with no windows a parking lot and no signage at all.......Been there for years I was told......

 

From the stories I have heard when a Thai get a gambling addiction they will lose everything they have till they are homeless....Asians and gambling are a dangerous mix...Like Indians and alcohol...... 

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4 hours ago, TaaSaparot said:

Can count more new openings this past week, then closings.

It's interesting that some have speculated on the early return of tourists to Pattaya / Thailand.  If you have a look on the Baht Sold website, there is hotel after hotel for sale, as well as many other businesses.  

 

Time will tell whether it was a good idea to buy in and open now, whilst a bargain may be had, or a total waste of time and money.  

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