Leaver Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/8/2020 at 1:38 PM, BigStar said: Easily, but no point. I'll take that as unable to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/8/2020 at 1:46 PM, BigStar said: But P&W is under discussion. Can you prove that a greedy Thai landlord put it out of business or is this just the usual pretense to an authoritative economic pronouncement? I was speaking generally on how Thai landlords have raised rents to a point where Pattaya is no longer a value for money tourist destination. i did not say this was the case for the P & W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinyara Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 13 hours ago, TaaSaparot said: So ... its only a bad location, if you do not own your building? Believe it's in the process of re-opening. When 2 out of 3 outlets within a couple of hundred yards of each other close the common denominator appears to be the inability to cover their overheads of which rent is a major factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinyara Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 13 hours ago, Guderian said: There's nothing wrong with the location, OK it's not Walking Street, but there's a lot of farangs living in the area and a lot of passing traffic. The original owners sold it mainly because Pattaya started enforcing fire safety regulations which meant that the staircase in a standard shophouse here isn't wide enough for it to be used as a guesthouse, and they could no longer rent out the rooms above the pub. That must have been a useful bit of extra income, but presumably the new owner knows all this and has taken it into account in his business plan. Or maybe Pattaya City is no longer enforcing the fire safety regulations, TiT so who knows? So you're saying that the farangs in the area and passing trade weren't enough to keep it going, changes to regulations meaning they couldn't rent rooms to tourists was the deciding factor leading to its closure. If it wasn't profitable enough on that basis it will be interesting to see how they are going to succeed in the current environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adammike Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 9:01 AM, TaaSaparot said: Has the tide turned? .... an Indian Restaurant closes and a Beer Bar opens in its place. I have been walking around second road and off south Pattaya road and there are dozens of empty Indian restaurants, really dozens with not a customer in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Leaver said: I think you will find they will be cutting the number of girls, not hiring more. Jut not enough customers to go around. You are quite right... when times are lean the fat is trimmed, Less to see indoors and cutting the only costs they can... salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 9 hours ago, adammike said: I have been walking around second road and off south Pattaya road and there are dozens of empty Indian restaurants, really dozens with not a customer in sight. No change there then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 New bar close to opening on LK Metro called Celona Bar, which would be replacing a Travel Agency. From the evenings I have spent there recently, I would say LK Metro is doing very well at the moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, adammike said: I have been walking around second road and off south Pattaya road and there are dozens of empty Indian restaurants, really dozens with not a customer in sight. I have pounded the keyboard many a time trying to bring this empty Indian restaurant anomaly to people's attention....This situation could not exist if someone ??? was not paying the bills every month for all these empty Indian restaurants...... But not many people here seemed very interested in the subject so I quit posting about it... But this does not change the fact that there are 100s and 100s of all but empty Indian restaurants in Pattaya.....And They have been open for many years too.... I would guess 99% of the few customers they have are Indians....Farangs mostly refuse to pay their expensive prices (and the Thais/Chinese/Japanese/Koreans refuse to eat there at all)......I don't think the Indians on a tight budget can afford to eat there either........So these 100s and 100s of Indian restaurants are all depending on the middle class Indians almost exclusively to cover the rent, water, electric, gas, food stock, equipment repairs/purchases, taxes, employee salaries , employee visas... etc etc etc Its just simply impossible.......Yet there they are open year after year.... Edited March 10, 2020 by fforest1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 9 hours ago, jacko45k said: You are quite right... when times are lean the fat is trimmed, Less to see indoors and cutting the only costs they can... salaries. Ironically, this will see an increase in attractive girls on apps, further decreasing customers in gogo bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Leaver said: Ironically, this will see an increase in attractive girls on apps, further decreasing customers in gogo bars. But if they do the odd BOGOF occasionally who cares.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 9 hours ago, TaaSaparot said: New bar close to opening on LK Metro called Celona Bar, which would be replacing a Travel Agency. From the evenings I have spent there recently, I would say LK Metro is doing very well at the moment. Always good to hear of a new bar opening. I like variety and choice. There are a lot of places for sale in the Soi Baukaew area. Here's a random from the first page of Google. https://www.businessesforsale.com/search/businesses-for-sale-in-pattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 1:55 AM, TaaSaparot said: Actually ... P&W - Closed Butchers Arms - Sold and Re-opened Tequila Reef - Closed and staff Re-opened elsewhere Retox - Closed Pig & Whistle will open after a refit, as a .... Indian Restaurant. You heard it here first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, TaaSaparot said: Pig & Whistle will open after a refit, as a .... Indian Restaurant. You heard it here first! Are you being cynical? I certainly didn't hear it here first, I heard it soon after the place closed.... and six months plus later haven't seen any evidence of it. And Pattaya desperately needs another empty Indian restaurant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Heard last night Mickey,s bar on the Plaza has been sold due to health issue.....he,s returning to the UK. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, jacko45k said: Are you being cynical? I certainly didn't hear it here first, I heard it soon after the place closed.... and six months plus later haven't seen any evidence of it. And Pattaya desperately needs another empty Indian restaurant. When the Indian restaurants only out number the 7-11s 2or3 to one......This tells me one thing.....Pattaya needs lots and lots more Indian restaurants....lol Edited March 11, 2020 by fforest1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Have heard that Simon's Fish and Chips in Jomtien has closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 6 hours ago, petermik said: Heard last night Mickey,s bar on the Plaza has been sold due to health issue.....he,s returning to the UK. Busy Bar, you would think someone would want to take it over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 9 hours ago, jacko45k said: Are you being cynical? I certainly didn't hear it here first, I heard it soon after the place closed.... and six months plus later haven't seen any evidence of it. And Pattaya desperately needs another empty Indian restaurant. We also heard about The Avenue becoming a Pattaya Nana Plaza. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 15 hours ago, Leaver said: We also heard about The Avenue becoming a Pattaya Nana Plaza. ???? You don't think that is happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, TaaSaparot said: You don't think that is happening? Probably get postponed now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 38 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Probably get postponed now! So, you think it will happen then .... hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, TaaSaparot said: So, you think it will happen then .... hmm Not a chance.. but a few postponements might soften the blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 10 hours ago, TaaSaparot said: You don't think that is happening? What happens here, and what is successful here, can be very different things. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 20 hours ago, jacko45k said: Not a chance.. but a few postponements might soften the blow. Geezo .... make up your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Game Square, gaming center opens on Walking Street today. I hope someone has told them that they need to remove those grab machines first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guderian Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Returning to the reopening of the Punch & Judy I mentioned a few days ago, it's got a new sign outside that says it's an "Italian Risto Pub". Unlucky timing with the virus outbreak to be opening an Italian venue. It's been rebranded as "Pulcinella" but they're keeping the Punch & Judy name as well, presumably to make former customers feel at home. I don't think it's open yet, my handyman tells me they've got big problems with a leaking water supply, and they're currently digging up the road at the back of the place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Guderian said: Returning to the reopening of the Punch & Judy I mentioned a few days ago, it's got a new sign outside that says it's an "Italian Risto Pub". Unlucky timing with the virus outbreak to be opening an Italian venue. It's been rebranded as "Pulcinella" but they're keeping the Punch & Judy name as well, presumably to make former customers feel at home. I don't think it's open yet, my handyman tells me they've got big problems with a leaking water supply, and they're currently digging up the road at the back of the place. Boy this has to be the worst timing in all recorded history to be opening a Italian restaurant now........Kind of like opening a surf shop in Phuket the day after the tsunami..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinyara Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Clearly the new owner has done his homework and has a well thought out business plan. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, kinyara said: Clearly the new owner has done his homework and has a well thought out business plan. ???? Plenty of Italian expats here; they won't be going home anytime soon. Good luck to the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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