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Most bars have more staff than customers, gogos probably 5-1. had a businessman sit beside me this winter in a gogo in pattaya, he commented on how can these bars stay open, no customers in most,

Great.    Did you notice I started this thread in the Pattaya Forum?

Well Hooters Pattaya was roasted by the expat community in Pattaya from the first day they opened and for years afterwards.......But Hooters just ignored all the zillions of negative expat posts and t

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16 hours ago, rott said:

Sorry but that isn't true. 

I am not saying bungs are 100% the norm but I know bar "owners" who've been told to pay up or......... 

That I can believe.

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8 hours ago, SidJames said:

It's very hard to be a real fiscal success here without the 'help of a local partner'.

Correct, which unfortunately means, "tea money" is passed onto the customer, which means we all pay it.  

 

It can be a vicious cycle.  To make a profit you have to break more laws.  Break more laws and you must pay more "tea money."  All of this at a time when western tourists are in decline, pre Covid, and exchange rates to the baht are down.  Between the Thai landlord and the police, a bar owner is left with the crumbs, if any profit at all.  

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1 minute ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Not all police officers have what you mention, only the ones at the top.

They all get a cut out of the "tea money" but yes, it's a pyramid scheme. 

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7 hours ago, SidJames said:

Do you socialise with the bar owners or the people who lease the bars as there is a big difference?

I don't know of one bar in Pattaya where the bar owner owns the property. Virtually all bars are leased/rented.

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1 hour ago, Leaver said:

Did you ask your police friends how they can afford two investment condo's, a BMW, and two mia noi's, on a 15k baht salary a month?  🙂

Another urban myth. They don't. One lived next door to me with his family when I first rented in Pattaya. House was worth around 1.5m baht.

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On 10/10/2020 at 8:40 PM, AbeNormal said:

and the police closed absolutely everything at 12, not even the selected few few that have remained open after 12 were open, everything was completely shut down, really good idea when all these places are struggling for what few customers are left

I just want to give you an update. After this great police show the bars cared about the legal closing times for 2 nights. After this the bars did not care again and I expect the same for the next nights. So a great show of the police for obviously absolutely nothing. I have no idea why the police did this if in the end they don't REALLY care. Otherwise the bars wouldn't do again what they want. It is easy to see and often to hear which bar is still open after the legal closing times - if you really want...

 

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8 minutes ago, Oldie said:

I just want to give you an update. After this great police show the bars cared about the legal closing times for 2 nights. After this the bars did not care again and I expect the same for the next nights. So a great show of the police for obviously absolutely nothing. I have no idea why the police did this if in the end they don't REALLY care. Otherwise the bars wouldn't do again what they want. It is easy to see and often to hear which bar is still open after the legal closing times - if you really want...

 

Good, let them earn money, restrictions should be dropped anyway as no covid. If cases increase then makes some sense for mask wearing and other restrictions

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2 hours ago, redwood1 said:

I bet most of posters on this subject have had many years each of ground time in Pattaya, and we have seen or heard about protection money so often that for you to say it does not exist is simply laughable .....  

Seen and heard about it from your barstool and reading TV. I never said that it doesn't exist, simply that not all bars pay it.

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1 hour ago, Oldie said:

I just want to give you an update. After this great police show the bars cared about the legal closing times for 2 nights. After this the bars did not care again and I expect the same for the next nights. So a great show of the police for obviously absolutely nothing. I have no idea why the police did this if in the end they don't REALLY care. Otherwise the bars wouldn't do again what they want. It is easy to see and often to hear which bar is still open after the legal closing times - if you really want...

 

Apparently the top brass & some navy bods where paying a visit so the old bill made sure everything was locked up nice & tight.

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Is it really worth bars staying open past midnight in the current climate, I don't see that many customers around in the evenings. I think the only certainty in the next 3 months is continued closures unfortunately. 

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25 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

If  empty, of course not. But if the place is going strong at midnight very disappointing to have the lights put on and be chucked out... happened to me 3 times in the last few months. And later than midnight....

Such bars that don't care about closing times often also hope that customers from bars that care about closing times will move to them and continue their night there. Sometimes they make a lot of noise so that they are easier to find. But if the police doesn't enforce laws for whatever reason why not...

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8 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Not all police officers have what you mention, only the ones at the top.

The ones at the bottom who sell the illegal lottery, do they keep all the profit or does it work it's way up.? 

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7 hours ago, polpott said:

I don't know of one bar in Pattaya where the bar owner owns the property. Virtually all bars are leased/rented.

I do know one but he is very much the exception to the rule. 

So these people you socialise with, they are the property owners not the bar "owners".?

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14 minutes ago, rott said:

I do know one but he is very much the exception to the rule. 

So these people you socialise with, they are the property owners not the bar "owners".?

Bar owners. The bars are officially in their wives names which is also the norm.

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1 hour ago, rott said:

The ones at the bottom who sell the illegal lottery, do they keep all the profit or does it work it's way up.? 

The illegal lottery - there are no (government) laws. They can do what they want. I read the local agent gets a percentage and about 60 percent is paid out. The rest goes to - I will send you a PM.

 

No, they will not tell us... 

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On 10/13/2020 at 12:29 PM, kinyara said:

Is it really worth bars staying open past midnight in the current climate, I don't see that many customers around in the evenings. I think the only certainty in the next 3 months is continued closures unfortunately. 

I agree there will be continued closures but those that are seeing customers need to be allowed to have that choice, I have seen busy or packed venues having to dump their customers onto the street and the customers are either going home or being forced to continue their after 12 adventures in places they would rather not

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12 minutes ago, champers said:

Interesting article in the Thaiger about some bars making big amounts of money from providing a virtual bar experience online from live streaming. Punters; those abroad earnestly wishing they were here; are able to view the girls and chat with them and will view pop-ups on screen urging them to "buy lady drink for 150 Baht" and even "ring the bell for 900". Cherry's and Destiny bars were quoted as 2 examples.

You have to admire the survival spirit and for many it seems they are staying afloat as a consequence.

P.S. Sorry no link provided; it is beyond my ken.

 

This is correct. I have seen this here already in Pattaya in the Soi that goes from Made in Thailand to Soi Buakhao. But for sure they will provide there account numbers too if you ask so that you don't have to disturb them so much. 

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7 hours ago, champers said:

Interesting article in the Thaiger about some bars making big amounts of money from providing a virtual bar experience online from live streaming. Punters; those abroad earnestly wishing they were here; are able to view the girls and chat with them and will view pop-ups on screen urging them to "buy lady drink for 150 Baht" and even "ring the bell for 900". Cherry's and Destiny bars were quoted as 2 examples.

You have to admire the survival spirit and for many it seems they are staying afloat as a consequence.

P.S. Sorry no link provided; it is beyond my ken.

Thai chaturbate, eh?

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