Pattaya Spotter Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Lucky for me, none of the restaurants I frequent here on the Darkside have closed due to Covid. In fact,, it's hard to get a table at some during peak hours and weekends, like Ae & Ek Steakhouse at Maprachan Reservoir. However, a few on the Brightside have closed, like Loaf Bakery, and some are having a rocky time of it, like Smokin' Joe's BBQ, which has consolidated into their sister resto, Steak & Co., next door, and reduced their hours to just serving dinner, from breakfast, lunch, and dinner before. Edited October 20, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 19 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Lucky for me, none of the restaurants I frequent here on the Darkside have closed due to Covid. In fact,, it's hard to get a table at some during peak hours and weekends, like Ae & Ek Steakhouse at Maprachan Reservoir. However, a few on the Brightside have closed, like Loaf Bakery, and some are having a rocky time of it, like Smokin' Joe's BBQ, which has consolidated into their sister resto, Steak & Co., next door, and reduced their hours to just serving dinner, from breakfast, lunch, and dinner before. I use Smokin' Joes when in Pattaya and tbh am sad but not surprised it's closed. I would suggest that 90% of the customers were people staying in the surrounding hotels which of course are also suffering from lack of customers. If SJ has consolidated, hopefully it'll reopen when there are more patrons.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, VBF said: I use Smokin' Joes when in Pattaya and tbh am sad but not surprised it's closed. I would suggest that 90% of the customers were people staying in the surrounding hotels which of course are also suffering from lack of customers. If SJ has consolidated, hopefully it'll reopen when there are more patrons.... Both menus are available at Steak & Co. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Both menus are available at Steak & Co. Good business sense there - I would love to be in a position to sample one of them! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On Soi 8 the bar next to Sailor Bar appears to be getting demolished. Of course it could turn out to be a refurb. Soi 8 in general is a bit sad looking, not what it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TaaSaparot Posted October 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2020 Story about the Rabbit Resort that I thought was interesting: https://www.thebigchilli.com/feature-stories/hopeful-in-pattaya 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 8 hours ago, TaaSaparot said: Story about the Rabbit Resort that I thought was interesting: https://www.thebigchilli.com/feature-stories/hopeful-in-pattaya You'd think the businesses that own the land and property would survive as no rent, just minimise costs until covid passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 11 hours ago, TaaSaparot said: Story about the Rabbit Resort that I thought was interesting: https://www.thebigchilli.com/feature-stories/hopeful-in-pattaya The horrible Dongtan Beach road re-make stole a bunch of Rabbit Resorts magic.......I USE TO love walking down Dongtan Beach road... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I see the Burger Deleted on Beach Road between Soi 7 & Soi 8 has closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, TaaSaparot said: I see the Burger Deleted on Beach Road between Soi 7 & Soi 8 has closed. .................Took me a while to figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nout Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 What's sadder than closure is when a place stays open, raises the AC temp, increases the beer fridge temp, cuts down on fans keeping less lights on. To add to these economy measures the same places stop restocking, resulting in little or no choice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nout Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 5:40 PM, rott said: On Soi 8 the bar next to Sailor Bar appears to be getting demolished. Of course it could turn out to be a refurb. Soi 8 in general is a bit sad looking, not what it used to be. Its been pretty awful for years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 7:23 AM, Pattaya Spotter said: Both menus are available at Steak & Co. That's right; had delirious spareribs today, wife had a steak & son had Thai-food and some of my spareribs. They uses the same kitchen as S.J., everything is 20% off. Restaurant perhaps 25% full today, I saw 3 Japanese gentlemen there, a couple of single expats, 3 Indian looking ladies (very overweight, ha-ha). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said: .................Took me a while to figure it out LOL ... never knew it did that, how sad is that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jastheace Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, TaaSaparot said: LOL ... never knew it did that, how sad is that? jest of course) and the word deleted isn't bracketed, so i thought there was a place by that name.... 'The Burger Deleted'. no wonder i couldn't remember it being there... i wonder how many new words will fall into the same trap. Edited October 24, 2020 by Rimmer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 7 hours ago, guzzi850m2 said: That's right; had delirious spareribs today, wife had a steak & son had Thai-food and some of my spareribs. They uses the same kitchen as S.J., everything is 20% off. Restaurant perhaps 25% full today, I saw 3 Japanese gentlemen there, a couple of single expats, 3 Indian looking ladies (very overweight, ha-ha). Hope to get over too in the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 8 hours ago, guzzi850m2 said: That's right; had delirious spareribs today, wife had a steak & son had Thai-food and some of my spareribs. They uses the same kitchen as S.J., everything is 20% off. Restaurant perhaps 25% full today, I saw 3 Japanese gentlemen there, a couple of single expats, 3 Indian looking ladies (very overweight, ha-ha). Is the 20% discount all the time on all the dishes? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Nout said: What's sadder than closure is when a place stays open, raises the AC temp, increases the beer fridge temp, cuts down on fans keeping less lights on. To add to these economy measures the same places stop restocking, resulting in little or no choice. It's an early sign of closure, I remember when Heaven Above reduced the size of their draft beer, desperate measures. I noticed Shark agogo open last night, first time since lock down. Amazes me how it's survived for so many years with so few customers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 41 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said: Is the 20% discount all the time on all the dishes? Thx Yes. There was a handwritten sign out front saying: from Monday 30% off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Just now, guzzi850m2 said: Yes. There was a handwritten sign out front saying: from Monday 30% off! Even better! Thx, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, HashBrownHarry said: Is the 20% discount all the time on all the dishes? Thx Yes. And starting Monday, 26 Oct., entire menu is 30% off every day and no SC or VAT (per FB). This owner is really trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Yes. And starting Monday, 26 Oct., entire menu is 30% off every day and no SC or VAT (per FB). This owner is really trying. ok, cool. Good luck to him, i've always thought the steaks there were decent. Will taste much better with 30% off i'm sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, HashBrownHarry said: ok, cool. Good luck to him, i've always thought the steaks there were decent. Will taste much better with 30% off i'm sure. Just remember they're now only open for dinner...I think 4:30 or 5:00 to 9:00 p.m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 5:19 AM, scubascuba3 said: You'd think the businesses that own the land and property would survive as no rent, just minimise costs until covid passes You would think after 20 years there would be no finance on the place, but maybe they borrowed to build a new wing, or for some upgrades or renovations. They may not have rent to pay, but may have loan repayments to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinyara Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Maybe, may, may. Welcome to hypothetical negative thread bump Saturday. Another week with the absence of any notable closures by the looks of it. They soldier on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, kinyara said: Maybe, may, may. Welcome to hypothetical negative thread bump Saturday. Another week with the absence of any notable closures by the looks of it. They soldier on. Are you suggesting the businesses that have survived until now will remain open for good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Leaver said: Are you suggesting the businesses that have survived until now will remain open for good? Ask me in January/February. If there are still no tourists at the end of the high season, most tourist centric businesses will be running on fresh air and getting deeper into debt with every passing week. Even one of the more secure, cash rich businesses, NWG, have suggested that they can't continue as they are for more than another 4 months. Personally, I can't see it being normal business for tourists in Pattaya much before Christmas 2021. There are a lot more businesses still to close. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Leaver Posted October 24, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, polpott said: Ask me in January/February. If there are still no tourists at the end of the high season, most tourist centric businesses will be running on fresh air and getting deeper into debt with every passing week. Even one of the more secure, cash rich businesses, NWG, have suggested that they can't continue as they are for more than another 4 months. Personally, I can't see it being normal business for tourists in Pattaya much before Christmas 2021. There are a lot more businesses still to close. I agree. I'm also thinking Feb 21 when any possible high high season can be assessed. Many businesses are already in a position where lost trade within their current lease can not be recouped before the end of the lease. Many owners are under the belief that as soon as Thailand opens its boarders, without $100k USD insurance and quarantine, westerners will come flooding back in. I don't see it. Too many other obstructions and high costs, for this to happen, from the tourists' home countries. Not sure what The Nightwish Group think is going to happen in 3 or 4 months time. Certainly not enough to sustain their 25 bars. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Leaver said: Not sure what The Nightwish Group think is going to happen in 3 or 4 months time. Certainly not enough to sustain their 25 bars. They've been overly optimistic since day one. At the beginning of the shutdown, they were sending out a strong message that it would be back to normal and tourists would be back in 2 weeks, then it was 1 month and so it went on. Personally I think that was an attempt to discourage the girls from leaving Pattaya and they would be in the "herding cats" scenario. Being a cynic and knowing Bryan Flowers, it tend to think that the food handouts served the same purpose. I don't think that they have 25 bars open now. I think both bars on the poon, Orange and Blue? are currently closed. Several of their bars on Soi 6 are closed and the girls distributed amongst the remaining bars. Some bars are literally heaving with girls. Crazy. I watched a very recent video of a guy doing a walk through of Soi 6 around dusk, usually a busy time for that Soi. He counted 8 customers, not in one bar, in the whole Soi. NWG must be bleeding money like a stuck pig. Edited October 24, 2020 by polpott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, polpott said: They've been overly optimistic since day one. At the beginning of the shutdown, they were sending out a strong message that it would be back to normal and tourists would be back in 2 weeks, then it was 1 month and so it went on. Personally I think that was an attempt to discourage the girls from leaving Pattaya and they would be in the "herding cats" scenario. Being a cynic and knowing Bryan Flowers, it tend to think that the food handouts served the same purpose. I don't think that they have 25 bars open now. I think both bars on the poon, Orange and Blue? are currently closed. Several of their bars on Soi 6 are closed and the girls distributed amongst the remaining bars. Some bars are literally heaving with girls. Crazy. I watched a very recent video of a guy doing a walk through of Soi 6 around dusk, usually a busy time for that Soi. He counted 8 customers, not in one bar, in the whole Soi. NWG must be bleeding money like a stuck pig. Yes, I know not all their bars are open, but they still have to carry them on their books, one way or another. They recently sold few of their bars. Interestingly, it was their cheaper bars, not their bars that had the highest expenses. Possibly trying to raise some very quick capital. Nightwish may still be here in 6 months time, but I doubt they will still have 25 bars. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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