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2 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Looks like some business owners have already done a runner...

 

Some Pattaya businesses have quit and run

 

A tragic aspect of the collapse of tourism in Pattaya is the sight of closed down shop units with piles of uncollected post and a clutch of unpaid utility bills taped on the padlocked doors.  https://www.pattayamail.com/news/some-pattaya-businesses-have-quit-and-run-330867

 

Makes you wonder if there would have been a different result for the tenant, and the Thai landlord, had many of the Thai landlords that own these now vacant establishments did a deal with their tenant.  

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Most bars have more staff than customers, gogos probably 5-1. had a businessman sit beside me this winter in a gogo in pattaya, he commented on how can these bars stay open, no customers in most,

Great.    Did you notice I started this thread in the Pattaya Forum?

Well Hooters Pattaya was roasted by the expat community in Pattaya from the first day they opened and for years afterwards.......But Hooters just ignored all the zillions of negative expat posts and t

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2 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Makes you wonder if there would have been a different result for the tenant, and the Thai landlord, had many of the Thai landlords that own these now vacant establishments did a deal with their tenant.  

That is true...but many of these businesses would need a rent of zero to survive right now. With a legal rental contract of xx.xx baht per month for the lease period, they figure just take them to court and force them to pay (as some apparently have done). I can tell you one thing...going forward, EVERY commercial rental contract around the world will have a pandemic clause reducing or voiding the lease as standard.

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20 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

That is true...but many of these businesses would need a rent of zero to survive right now. With a legal rental contract of xx.xx baht per month for the lease period, they figure just take them to court and force them to pay (as some apparently have done). I can tell you one thing...going forward, EVERY commercial rental contract around the world will have a pandemic clause reducing or voiding the lease as standard.

No doubt some business owners will be trying to leave Thailand, as "the dream" becomes a nightmare.  I hope they can get out before their Court case. 

 

I think the days of "key money" are also coming to an end, as business owners will have a more pay as you go approach.  Key money was dying here pre Covid.   

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9 hours ago, redwood1 said:

BurgerKing Central is gone? Are you sure? It was there a few weeks ago....

 

BurgerKing is way better than Mcdonalds...

 

It is not really gone. It is closed and it looks as if they can open it at any time again. 

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50 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

 

They have been since very long time embarassed (To say the least) with Thailand being one of the world best sex destination and the virus has given to them an unique opportunity to get rid of this seedy reputation and replace the lonely aged westerner intersted by the girls visitor by a younger couple of chinese intersted by shopping and selfies, a process already on the trail at least since 2014\2015

I don't know were this thinking comes from. At least it doesn't fit for Pattaya. Since we have the military government many new sex bars opened in Pattaya. They even extended the opening hours from midnight to 2 and 4 (depending on the zone). At the moment the closing time is midnight because of the emergency decree. But here in Central Pattaya bars are open with noisy live music until 3. And a bit more quiet until 5 and longer and this very close to the Pattaya City Police station. Obviously the police does not want to stop this business. For sure they can even hear the noise and I know of many unsuccessful complaints of people living there. 

 

How do I see all this? I have been living in Central Pattaya for very many years. It wasn't that bad before. But since the last years I have the feeling I live in the middle of a huge brothel. I don't know any sex city like Pattaya in the world. And they do everything to keep this image alive. The tourism minister even wants to extend the opening times so that these businesses can make more money.

 

 

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13 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

A tragic aspect of the collapse of tourism in Pattaya is the sight of closed down shop units with piles of uncollected post and a clutch of unpaid utility bills taped on the padlocked

So it is beginning to look a lot like a pre-Covid Northern UK town centre then? Charity shops and betting shops come next. 

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In Soi Post Office there is a row of ten or eleven shops with only one open amongst them. 

But on the corner of the Soi and Beach Rd the McDonald's is showing signs that they may be re-opening soon. 

Good, bad or indifferent news according to your taste. 

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6 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

They have been since very long time embarassed (To say the least) with Thailand being one of the world best sex destination and the virus has given to them an unique opportunity to get rid of this seedy reputation and replace the lonely aged westerner intersted by the girls visitor by a younger couple of chinese intersted by shopping and selfies, a process already on the trail at least since 2014\2015

Works for me.

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5 hours ago, Oldie said:

It is not really gone. It is closed and it looks as if they can open it at any time again. 

As long as the Carl's Jr. at Central stays open I'm good.

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1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

So it is beginning to look a lot like a pre-Covid Northern UK town centre then? Charity shops and betting shops come next. 

No betting shops...gambling is 🚫 in Thailand...lots of lottery ticket sellers wandering about, however.

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7 hours ago, Oldie said:

I don't know were this thinking comes from. At least it doesn't fit for Pattaya. Since we have the military government many new sex bars opened in Pattaya. They even extended the opening hours from midnight to 2 and 4 (depending on the zone). At the moment the closing time is midnight because of the emergency decree. But here in Central Pattaya bars are open with noisy live music until 3. And a bit more quiet until 5 and longer and this very close to the Pattaya City Police station. Obviously the police does not want to stop this business. For sure they can even hear the noise and I know of many unsuccessful complaints of people living there. 

 

How do I see all this? I have been living in Central Pattaya for very many years. It wasn't that bad before. But since the last years I have the feeling I live in the middle of a huge brothel. I don't know any sex city like Pattaya in the world. And they do everything to keep this image alive. The tourism minister even wants to extend the opening times so that these businesses can make more money.

 

 

You are mixing the local authorities with the elites runing the country.

Thais are pragmatics. the local authorities (Mayor. police and so on)

are very pleased with the sex trade particularly if they can do money with it

on the other side the 500 Thai very high so families, including the one we can not talking about

are very pleased to be get rid of the Thailand seedy reputation, and they aren't concerned at

all if this move costs few thousands jobs or the agony of an entire city, they aren't concerned at all by

this minor (From their point of view) collateral damages

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2 hours ago, rott said:

In Soi Post Office there is a row of ten or eleven shops with only one open amongst them. 

But on the corner of the Soi and Beach Rd the McDonald's is showing signs that they may be re-opening soon. 

Good, bad or indifferent news according to your taste. 

The macDonald at the corner of soi post office has always been very quiet since the opening

i wonder if they have been able to make a profit along the years with these very few customers

so they shouldn't see a big difference 

However the terrace was nice, particularly the sofa in the corner

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Not a burger eater myself but I would agree with you that it never seemed to do very much. I will be surprised if it does open up again while there are still only a few about. 

On the next block along, still no signs of life at Starbucks. 

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39 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

And some still believe in it.
Soi Bukhao, next to PissStop, a new bar, previously a Top Charoen.

Wow, a very optimist (Or overconfident) investissor then

i see everyday more and more bars closed in Pattaya, and even

with the number of bars drasticaly reduced the ones still open are

struggling to pay the bills, i don't even talk about doing a living.

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12 hours ago, rott said:

In Soi Post Office there is a row of ten or eleven shops with only one open amongst them. 

But on the corner of the Soi and Beach Rd the McDonald's is showing signs that they may be re-opening soon. 

Good, bad or indifferent news according to your taste. 

Wow! If out of 11 shops only 1 is still open, things must really be bad.

Would not be surprised if the same ratio applies to the many Guest-Houses in the area.

Once the Covid thing is over, early bird visitors may end up sleeping at McDonalds on the terrace (on the sofa in the corner).:smile:

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2 minutes ago, swissie said:

Wow! If out of 11 shops only 1 is still open, things must really be bad.

Would not be surprised if the same ratio applies to the many Guest-Houses in the area.

Once the Covid thing is over, early bird visitors may end up sleeping at McDonalds on the terrace (on the sofa in the corner).:smile:

All the soi between beach road and second road are heavily impacted

most of the businesses are already closed in these little streets

so yes Soi Yamato and Soi post office are taking a beating too

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1 minute ago, kingofthemountain said:

Soi post office are taking a beating too

But this guy renting out motorbikes uses now both sides of the Soi to park his many motorbikes. Obviously a great business with many customers. Just kidding. I am also wondering that jet skies can be left on the beach for many days. There is not much law enforcement anymore. Also some bars do what they want and nobody cares for whatever reason. 

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37 minutes ago, swissie said:

Wow! If out of 11 shops only 1 is still open, things must really be bad.

Would not be surprised if the same ratio applies to the many Guest-Houses in the area.

Once the Covid thing is over, early bird visitors may end up sleeping at McDonalds on the terrace (on the sofa in the corner).:smile:

Lol, no shortage of rooms and at knockdown prices. 

Ref the closed places the one still trading is the Corona Bar. The whole Soi is not like that, but the Miami agogo not been open for a few nights. 

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5 minutes ago, rott said:

Lol, no shortage of rooms and at knockdown prices. 

Ref the closed places the one still trading is the Corona Bar. The whole Soi is not like that, but the Miami agogo not been open for a few nights. 

What an Ironie = Corona Bar! But good to know. Always used to have my last drink at the Corona Bar as my Guest-House was only accross the street. Easy to navigate home after having consumed liberal amounts of Beer Chang.

 

Never spent much time at the "Miami". So cold inside, I got tired of wearing my fur coat in a GoGo Bar in Thailand.

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5 minutes ago, swissie said:

What an Ironie = Corona Bar! But good to know. Always used to have my last drink at the Corona Bar as my Guest-House was only accross the street. Easy to navigate home after having consumed liberal amounts of Beer Chang.

 

Never spent much time at the "Miami". So cold inside, I got tired of wearing my fur coat in a GoGo Bar in Thailand.

Surely the fur coat was primarily for pimping ? 

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12 hours ago, chrisandsu said:

Surely McDonalds and the like are franchise's? They are super expensive so I doubt they will be closing permanently.   

True....But you know its bad if a Mcdonalds does not even have enough business to pay a skeleton crew to pump out mostly pre-frozen food that has quite a big mark-up...

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19 hours ago, luckyluke said:

And some still believe in it.
Soi Bukhao, next to PissStop, a new bar, previously a Top Charoen.

"Is the closure of your favorite optometrist or pharmacy imminent?"

 

I've notice a couple of Save pharmacies and a Boots closed already.

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