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8 hours ago, fred110 said:

Kiss is a restaurant not a go go, even tho it sounds like it. They were open 24 hours for good cheap meals.

:sad::sad::sad:.....:cheesy:

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On 8/13/2019 at 10:00 PM, Leaver said:

Thanks for your example.

 

Not that I went there much, but there was a thread about The Pig and Whistle, also.

 

Will we be seeing more closures in the near future?

New owner and new name "Big and Whistle" with the back half now the "Punjabi Palace". 

Hope springs eternal and all that, but can anyone name an Indian bar or caff which has opened in the last two years or so and looks like a viable, going concern. 

 

I think the Chunky Monkey may be Indian owned, but it is run as a normal caff. I was thinking of the curry house places. 

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21 hours ago, kinyara said:

No one forces someone to sign a lease it's a matter of personal business judgement, to whinge and whine when the business " plan ' goes wrong is lame and I guess blaming it on the nearest Thai is a convenient scapegoat. 

There is a lot a truth to your comment.  The dreamers have been easy pickings in the past, but what of farang that have ran a good operation, only to have a rent increase by a Thai landlord that is looking to tap into the hard work of the farang tenant?  The increase sends the business broke, and the tourist elsewhere.  

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19 minutes ago, Leaver said:

There is a lot a truth to your comment.  The dreamers have been easy pickings in the past, but what of farang that have ran a good operation, only to have a rent increase by a Thai landlord that is looking to tap into the hard work of the farang tenant?  The increase sends the business broke, and the tourist elsewhere.  

If you have built up a loyal following and a prospective rent increase is that significant it's going to put your business finances at risk, you could try relocating the business to a more economically viable premises. It all depends just how widespread business closures are, hard to say until we see who opens up when they are allowed to and who call it a day. I suspect we won't see the true impact until the year end. 

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1 hour ago, rott said:

New owner and new name "Big and Whistle" with the back half now the "Punjabi Palace". 

Hope springs eternal and all that, but can anyone name an Indian bar or caff which has opened in the last two years or so and looks like a viable, going concern. 

 

I think the Chunky Monkey may be Indian owned, but it is run as a normal caff. I was thinking of the curry house places. 

There is a place next to the Galaxy Bar near the junction of Klang and 2nd Road. It has a name in Indian script and is more of a caff. Pre covid it was always busy, been there less than 2 years. They have another branch in S Pattaya but I don't know how that fares.

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16 minutes ago, kinyara said:

If you have built up a loyal following and a prospective rent increase is that significant it's going to put your business finances at risk, you could try relocating the business to a more economically viable premises. It all depends just how widespread business closures are, hard to say until we see who opens up when they are allowed to and who call it a day. I suspect we won't see the true impact until the year end. 

Rent increases by greedy Thai landlords have been pushing prices up for consumers (tourists) well before the virus. 

 

It was the quietest high season for western tourists before the virus crisis, with many businesses in distress. 

 

Businesses were set to close anyway, well before the virus, hence, the heading of my OP. 

 

Some businesses here have a loyal following of expats and tourists.   That doesn't mean a greedy Thai landlord will not increase the rent by 20% come next lease.  That basically makes a 100 baht beer 120 baht.  Would you pay the extra 20 baht for the Thai landlord's pocket?   

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42 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Rent increases by greedy Thai landlords have been pushing prices up for consumers (tourists) well before the virus.

 

Some businesses here have a loyal following of expats and tourists.   That doesn't mean a greedy Thai landlord will not increase the rent by 20% come next lease.  That basically makes a 100 baht beer 120 baht.  Would you pay the extra 20 baht for the Thai landlord's pocket?   

My favourite places haven't increased their prices in the last few years and certainly for alcohol the last increase I remember was a direct result of the government increasing the tax level. I guess they must have good landlords. Som.emay see this as an opportunity to lock into a good future deal if the Covid crisis results in a lot of vacant units, as you say better to rent than buy. 

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3 hours ago, kinyara said:

My favourite places haven't increased their prices in the last few years and certainly for alcohol the last increase I remember was a direct result of the government increasing the tax level. I guess they must have good landlords. Som.emay see this as an opportunity to lock into a good future deal if the Covid crisis results in a lot of vacant units, as you say better to rent than buy. 

Don't forget another silent major expense. My friend had to close his bar after 4 entities asked for payment to avoid business disruptions. Just couldn't make enough to care for his wife and child. 

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36 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

Don't forget another silent major expense. My friend had to close his bar after 4 entities asked for payment to avoid business disruptions. Just couldn't make enough to care for his wife and child. 

Aren't bungs only required when doing things illegal?

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2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Aren't bungs only required when doing things illegal?

Heck no...... they can come up with something or simple general hassle. 

You can suffer death threats if you simply pay the girls more than your competitors. 

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I spoke to one of the girls who works at Pattaya Beer Garden this morning, and she said they have started working on the bar today in anticipation of opening soon.

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It seems that in North Pattaya (some of) the bars will be open tonight....

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1 hour ago, Halfaboy said:

It seems that in North Pattaya (some of) the bars will be open tonight....

Based on what can I ask and where in North Pattaya?

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2 minutes ago, topt said:

Based on what can I ask and where in North Pattaya?

Naklua.

 

I doubt bars are allowed to re-open.

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