Airbagwill Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Max69xl said: If you borrow my car and get caught for speeding, should that effect me? I don't think so. In some countries in Europe traffic cams takes photos of the drivers face and the plate,but they still can't fine the owner of the car,and that's the way it should be. Let's say you rent a car and run a red light, do you think it should effect the rental company? The company is legally obliged to say who they allowed to drive the vehicle....if not it would be stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Airbagwill said: Most cameras now take a photo of the driver, but of course Thai cars have a heavy tined glass. In UK the owner is obliged by law to say who was driving....the fines for not declaring this are even higher than the original motoring offence. most fleet owners use log books or similar to say who is driving. I'd suggest that it is pretty clear that Thailand has nothing approaching the infrastructure, legal system or personel trained to administer any of this. I agree, it will be difficult to enforce it, and don't forget that maybe 30-40% of the drivers don't have a license in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, Airbagwill said: The company is legally obliged to say who they allowed to drive the vehicle....if not it would be stolen. In Thailand? Yeah,right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 23 hours ago, Samuel Smith said: OP doesn't mention when points get reset to 12. They shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 22 hours ago, hobz said: I already have 3 red light fines from the same intersection that switches to yellow light and then red light within 1 second ...and still haven't learned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 one third of motorists have no driving license or riding permit!!! so this law will not be effective anyway if they cannot clear the motorists with no relevant license!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 21 hours ago, mrfill said: If they haven't got enough money to pay the fine, how can they afford the tax? And what happens if they don't pay the fine and the tax? Another fine? Confiscate their smartphones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, Vacuum said: They shouldn't. I seem to recollect it was one year then reset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 16 hours ago, Dogmatix said: Since my missus drives cars registered in my name and gets regular speeding fines which she refuses to pay, I might have to transfer the cars to the company. No need to transfer anything. Don't give her the keys to the car anymore. Give her a monthly supply of money to cover her bus fares for her transportation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 7 hours ago, rossco1 said: Australia also has point system any way wont work here un till you have age appropriate drivers too meaning little Mary or Bob reach appropriate driving age unsure what age is here however I don't think the kids I see riding off to Primary school each day really should be riding motor bikes to and from school. How can you take points away from someone or fine them when they don't ever have a license to drive They should fine the parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vacuum said: They should fine the parents. But many of those are the BiB.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceruhe Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Latest research also shows tinfoil hats happen to reduce stupidity as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 12:44 PM, rkidlad said: No. Enforcing laws will help reduce accidents. Buzzwords and info-boards, etc, achieve nothing other than boosting some useless officials' egos. Yup, they have no freeking idea of what to do! Seemingly always looking for the easy way out. Until some "authorities" or elitists or powerful/rich people or the families lose lives nothing will change. But challenge those people's self entitlements and it will bring about another "coup". Seems that killing/maiming ordinary citizen, on the roads, is acceptable!? Pathetic! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Max69xl said: In Thailand? Yeah,right. You need to read my while argument on cresting a legal infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Galactus said: one third of motorists have no driving license or riding permit!!! so this law will not be effective anyway if they cannot clear the motorists with no relevant license!!! This includess foreigners i presume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 And where do you stick the 3 points for drink drivers who do not, and have never had a licence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 10:09 AM, Mickc said: Yeah, and that's exactly how it will be viewed. Not only that, sooooo many dont even have a licence to begin with... it's only a small fine and then they move on. Will be interesting to see what happens. Nothing will happen its already forgot about until next annual transport policy meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer boy Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 10:01 AM, PatOngo said: Drunk driving: 3 points...……………………..OK, can do 4 times Red lights: 2 points...…………………...……..Can do 6 times Helmets and speeding: 1 point each.......Can do 12 times That will teach them! But only 1 month ban if you lose all of your points up then get a clean licence WoW not in uk 1 year ban ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 these people are in cloud cuckoo land... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, essox essox said: these people are in cloud cuckoo land... it shows how the processes for "selection" in Thailand are at fault and people end up in high positions who simply are not up to doing the job. The depth of ignorance displayed at the conference by senior officials is breathtaking. There are road safety orgs operating in Thailand but by and large they are ignored presumably because those in authority just don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer boy Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, essox essox said: these people are in cloud cuckoo land... Did not mention 3 on a bike with no helmets is that 3 points HaHa ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, drummer boy said: But only 1 month ban if you lose all of your points up then get a clean licence WoW not in uk 1 year ban ! Road fines etc were not suddenly all introduced in ten the UK at the rates they are now - it has been a process of decades to get to where they are now. One thing is the number of offences has gradually reduced making the serious ones all the more serious.....for instance the correct sequence of speeding at over 100 mph could in theory attract a £10,000 fine as well as a ban. But the original fines were much smaller even in relation to income. A sudden introduction in Thailand would just result in chaos and lack of enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer boy Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Airbagwill said: Road fines etc were not suddenly all introduced in ten the UK at the rates they are now - it has been a process of decades to get to where they are now. One thing is the number of offences has gradually reduced making the serious ones all the more serious.....for instance the correct sequence of speeding at over 100 mph could in theory attract a £10,000 fine as well as a ban. But the original fines were much smaller even in relation to income. A sudden introduction in Thailand would just result in chaos and lack of enforcement. Very Good you should work for the government here in thiland will get a free visa Airbagwill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred white Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, drummer boy said: Did not mention 3 on a bike with no helmets is that 3 points HaHa ! 3 that's nothing saw one yesterday 2 adults 3 kids one of them a baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, drummer boy said: Did not mention 3 on a bike with no helmets is that 3 points HaHa ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 And for those without a driving licence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 9:38 AM, webfact said: He was quoted as saying that there are 6 deaths a day (Thaivisa notes that this was probably meant to be 60 in their story). He said the death toll was more than 20,000 people a year that would tally with about 60 per day. Remember this post november 2015 - 4 years ago and the title : Thailand aims to lower road fatality rates by 80% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, Assurancetourix said: Remember this post november 2015 - 4 yeras ago and the title: Thailand aims to lower road fatality rates by 80% I do, and as I recall no date was given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Assurancetourix said: Remember this post november 2015 - 4 yeras ago and the title : Thailand aims to lower road fatality rates by 80% Teach people to drive and the road rules, and enforce them would be a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 For the remaining five years ...so 2015 to 2020 and we are in the middle of 2019 and nothing was made . Waiting for the 17 months remaining .. " For the remaining five years, Thailand will seriously and strictly enforce the laws to achieve the 80% target as now that the road fatality issue was placed as a national agenda and law enforcement will be tightened. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.