webfact Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Electronic cigarettes valued at 11.25 million baht seized in Mukdahan province By The Thaiger PHOTOS: Workpoint News Electronic cigarettes valued at 12.25 million baht, plus various vaping paraphernalia, has been seized in Mukdahan, in far north-east Thailand. E-cigarettes and vaping products are prohibited to import into and use in Thailand. The Mukdahan Provincial Customs Department report that they received information from related officials and planned a raid of an import shipment for a company called ‘Suvarnabhumi (Thailand)’. They learned that the e-cigarette products were going to be smuggled, mixed in with legal products that would be imported into the country on the same day. Workpoint News reports that a total of 197 boxes were found containing electronic cigarettes and related items. There were individual e-cigarette devices, e-cigarette liquids containing nicotine and other related equipment. In total, 21,533 prohibited items were hidden in 6 large wooden crates. The crates were mixed in with other wooden crates being imported. SOURCE: Workpoint News Source: https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/electronic-cigarettes-valued-at-11-25-million-baht-seized-in-mukdahan-province -- © Copyright The Thaiger 2019-08-14 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Looking at the multitudes assembled for the selfie shot. One wonders if they detected real drugs how would they handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smee Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just think how much money the government would have made in taxes on this shipment if it hadn't defied logic, facts, reason, harm reduction rights, public health benefits and consumer choice by banning this proven less harmful (95% safer according to independant UK researchers) alternative to cigarettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I feel much safer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Smee said: Just think how much money the government would have made in taxes on this shipment if it hadn't defied logic, facts, reason, harm reduction rights, public health benefits and consumer choice by banning this proven less harmful (95% safer according to independant UK researchers) alternative to cigarettes. And the money they safe on lung cancer patients...prolly bigger than that. In the UK they opened vape stores in government hospitals now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Also, i don't think this amount of gear is worth 12 mio THB. That is nowhere near 400k USD worth of vape gear in the pictures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 and the small minded antics of Thailand, its politicians and its police continues to hold the country back!! Thank *&^% I left when i did!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Santa came early this year !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Well done, thank you. Though I believe there are a few outside denying to get health problems if use these devices. Somebody says "you can't fix stupidity" ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS1 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Well done, congratulations. Now people can switch back to cigarettes - long live the tobacco monopoly! The scum are even happy to pose for the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 5 hours ago, SS1 said: Well done, congratulations. Now people can switch back to cigarettes - long live the tobacco monopoly! The scum are even happy to pose for the photo. Happy to have a lot of new gear to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 3:07 PM, ThomasThBKK said: And the money they safe on lung cancer patients...prolly bigger than that. In the UK they opened vape stores in government hospitals now... Doctors suspect vaping behind dozens of lung illnesses in US https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/doctors-suspect-vaping-behind-dozens-of-lung-illnesses-in-us/ar-AAFRnMR?li=BBnb7Kz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 480,000 deaths per year attributed to smoking cigarettes v "dozens" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Salerno said: 480,000 deaths per year attributed to smoking cigarettes v "dozens" That's "dozens" of new types of lung illnesses caused by vaping that will kill/damage hundreds of thousands with continued use. But hey it's ok with me. Inhale all the nicotine you want as long as I don't have to get second hand smoke /vapors. Does anyone really think that breathing in as much nicotine as a regular cigarette simply not as smoke and not containing the paper and other stuff that is in a reguar cigatette is less harmful. The main cause of the cancers is nicotine, makes no difference how you get it into your lungs--vapor or smoke. Plus with the flavored nicotine more young people are using and thinking it safe are inhaling larger quantity of the nicotine. E-cigarette Basics E-cigarettes are devices that heat a liquid into an aerosol that the user inhales. The liquid usually has nicotine and flavoring in it, and other additives. The nicotine in e-cigarettes and regular cigarettes is addictive. E-cigarettes are considered tobacco products because most of them contain nicotine, which comes from tobacco. Besides nicotine, e-cigarettes can contain harmful and potentially harmful ingredients, including: ultrafine particles that can be inhaled deep into the lungs flavorants such as diacetyl, a chemical linked to serious lung disease volatile organic compounds heavy metals, such as nickel, tin, and lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tony125 said: That's "dozens" of new types of lung illnesses caused by vaping that will kill/damage hundreds of thousands with continued use. But hey it's ok with me. Inhale all the nicotine you want as long as I don't have to get second hand smoke /vapors. Does anyone really think that breathing in as much nicotine as a regular cigarette simply not as smoke and not containing the paper and other stuff that is in a reguar cigatette is less harmful. The main cause of the cancers is nicotine, makes no difference how you get it into your lungs--vapor or smoke. Plus with the flavored nicotine more young people are using and thinking it safe are inhaling larger quantity of the nicotine. E-cigarette Basics E-cigarettes are devices that heat a liquid into an aerosol that the user inhales. The liquid usually has nicotine and flavoring in it, and other additives. The nicotine in e-cigarettes and regular cigarettes is addictive. E-cigarettes are considered tobacco products because most of them contain nicotine, which comes from tobacco. Besides nicotine, e-cigarettes can contain harmful and potentially harmful ingredients, including: ultrafine particles that can be inhaled deep into the lungs flavorants such as diacetyl, a chemical linked to serious lung disease volatile organic compounds heavy metals, such as nickel, tin, and lead E- cigarettes are 95% safer than cigarettes. NHS guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, DannyCarlton said: The main cause of the cancers is nicotine Not true, a very minor contributor, if at all. Main contributor - tar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 1:47 PM, Smee said: Just think how much money the government would have made in taxes on this shipment if it hadn't defied logic, facts, reason, harm reduction rights, public health benefits and consumer choice by banning this proven less harmful (95% safer according to independant UK researchers) alternative to cigarettes. youve seen their recent reaction to tm30 complaints, you have the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 @Tony125 Please get a clue before making yourself look more stupid on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Salerno said: @Tony125 Please get a clue before making yourself look more stupid on this topic. Just a question---is nicotine addictive ? https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-12-today-dangers-vaping.html https://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/impact-of-e-cigarettes-on-lung.html https://www.healthline.com/health/can-vaping-cause-cancer So if I never smoke a cigarette or inhale vapors containing nicotine I will never have any cravings for nicotine or suffer any type withdrawal effects from nicotine addiction. Think I'll just not do any. Rather not have any drug effect my decisions or body, be dependant on them to feel good. No reply nesscesary I'll make no more comments on the matter . except to say the studies seem to say that young adolescent brains seem to be affected by Marijuana and nicotine vapors because the brains are still developing ---doesn't have the same effects on adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 39 minutes ago, Tony125 said: Just a question---is nicotine addictive ? https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-12-today-dangers-vaping.html https://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/impact-of-e-cigarettes-on-lung.html https://www.healthline.com/health/can-vaping-cause-cancer So if I never smoke a cigarette or inhale vapors containing nicotine I will never have any cravings for nicotine or suffer any type withdrawal effects from nicotine addiction. Think I'll just not do any. Rather not have any drug effect my decisions or body, be dependant on them to feel good. No reply nesscesary I'll make no more comments on the matter . except to say the studies seem to say that young adolescent brains seem to be affected by Marijuana and nicotine vapors because the brains are still developing ---doesn't have the same effects on adults. so shall we ban cars because studies show vaping is less harmful than breathing the air in a city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Tony125 said: That's "dozens" of new types of lung illnesses caused by vaping that will kill/damage hundreds of thousands with continued use. But hey it's ok with me. Inhale all the nicotine you want as long as I don't have to get second hand smoke /vapors. Does anyone really think that breathing in as much nicotine as a regular cigarette simply not as smoke and not containing the paper and other stuff that is in a reguar cigatette is less harmful. The main cause of the cancers is nicotine, makes no difference how you get it into your lungs--vapor or smoke. Plus with the flavored nicotine more young people are using and thinking it safe are inhaling larger quantity of the nicotine. E-cigarette Basics E-cigarettes are devices that heat a liquid into an aerosol that the user inhales. The liquid usually has nicotine and flavoring in it, and other additives. The nicotine in e-cigarettes and regular cigarettes is addictive. E-cigarettes are considered tobacco products because most of them contain nicotine, which comes from tobacco. Besides nicotine, e-cigarettes can contain harmful and potentially harmful ingredients, including: ultrafine particles that can be inhaled deep into the lungs flavorants such as diacetyl, a chemical linked to serious lung disease volatile organic compounds heavy metals, such as nickel, tin, and lead No one ever claimed ecigs were good for you or not harmful . What studies have shown is that it’s a lot less harmful than actual cigs. Nicotine ok it’s own is hardly a big problem , other hundreds if not thousands of unknown chemicals in cigs is what is harmful. with e-cigarettes you also have a choice of no nicotine liquids. easiest way to explain for you is this. Smokers lungs are black filled with tar, Vapers lungs are clean. so which one is more harmful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, BestB said: Premium liquids are premium for that very same reason Do you believe in ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, sawadee1947 said: Do you believe in ????? No, I believe an anonymous poster on thai visa with zero knowledge or evidence ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, BestB said: From one of your links The use of e-cigarettes is unsafe for kids, teens, and young adults. Most e-cigarettes contain nicotine. Nicotine is highly addictive and can harm adolescent brain development, which continues into the early to mid-20s.1 E-cigarettes can contain other harmful substances besides nicotine. Young people who use e-cigarettes may be more likely to smoke cigarettes in the future. 1.So it’s safe for adults? 2. Rather silly statement to make most contain nicotine. User has a choice to buy nicotine free or not and how much nicotine 3.Can contain does not mean does contain . Premium liquids are premium for that very same reason 4 . Young people may be more likely , so maybe I will win a lotto ,what are chances of that? rather weak evidence you came up with there with many “may be” https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-lifestyle/quit-smoking-tobacco/is-vaping-safer-than-smoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said: https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-lifestyle/quit-smoking-tobacco/is-vaping-safer-than-smoking Educate yourself before you spout non sense. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/vaping-quit-smoking-cigarettes-health-nhs-lung-damage-cancer-tobacco-a8701506.html There are dozens and more studies debunking all your bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said: Educate yourself before you spout non sense. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/vaping-quit-smoking-cigarettes-health-nhs-lung-damage-cancer-tobacco-a8701506.html There are dozens and more studies debunking all your bs With this comment you disqualified yourself as a capable interesting interlocutor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, sawadee1947 said: With this comment you disqualified yourself as a capable interesting interlocutor. It doesn't make sense to discuss and teach ignorant individuals, some people don't want to learn, for everyone else i'll leave some links for self education: https://wivapers.blogspot.com/2019/07/its-my-10-year-smoke-free-anniversary.html https://www.progressivepolicy.org/press/press-release-more-americans-quit-smoking-with-assist-from-e-cigarettes/ https://www.vapingpost.com/2018/02/09/latest-study-no-lung-damage-reported-following-long-term-daily-vaping/ https://www.acsh.org/news/2019/08/08/long-term-vaping-effects-unknown-separating-science-hype-e-cigarette-debate-rages-14211 https://vaping360.com/vape-news/82975/is-the-wisconsin-lung-disease-outbreak-really-about-vaping/ https://pulsenews.co.kr/view.php?year=2019&no=585534 https://www.waateanews.com/waateanews/x_news/MjIzMDU/National News/Vape-confusion-harming-anti-smoking-effort https://www.natlawreview.com/article/china-drafting-first-e-cigarette-standard https://finance.yahoo.com/news/review-suggests-normal-electronic-cigarettes-000000964.html https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/07/22/what-america-can-learn-from-england-about-vaping/ https://www.nhs.uk/news/heart-and-lungs/long-term-vaping-far-safer-than-smoking-says-landmark-study/ https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2018/02/20/clearing-up-some-myths-around-e-cigarettes/ https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vaping-in-england-an-evidence-update-february-2019/vaping-in-england-evidence-update-summary-february-2019 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/821179/Vaping_in_England_an_evidence_update_February_2019.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 5 hours ago, sawadee1947 said: https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-lifestyle/quit-smoking-tobacco/is-vaping-safer-than-smoking Do you read links you post? Once again “may be’s” with zero back up or support . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Inflammatory posts and replies have been removed. Please keep it civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 11 hours ago, ThomasThBKK said: It doesn't make sense to discuss and teach ignorant individuals, some people don't want to learn, for everyone else i'll leave some links for self education: https://wivapers.blogspot.com/2019/07/its-my-10-year-smoke-free-anniversary.html https://www.progressivepolicy.org/press/press-release-more-americans-quit-smoking-with-assist-from-e-cigarettes/ https://www.vapingpost.com/2018/02/09/latest-study-no-lung-damage-reported-following-long-term-daily-vaping/ https://www.acsh.org/news/2019/08/08/long-term-vaping-effects-unknown-separating-science-hype-e-cigarette-debate-rages-14211 https://vaping360.com/vape-news/82975/is-the-wisconsin-lung-disease-outbreak-really-about-vaping/ https://pulsenews.co.kr/view.php?year=2019&no=585534 https://www.waateanews.com/waateanews/x_news/MjIzMDU/National News/Vape-confusion-harming-anti-smoking-effort https://www.natlawreview.com/article/china-drafting-first-e-cigarette-standard https://finance.yahoo.com/news/review-suggests-normal-electronic-cigarettes-000000964.html https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/07/22/what-america-can-learn-from-england-about-vaping/ https://www.nhs.uk/news/heart-and-lungs/long-term-vaping-far-safer-than-smoking-says-landmark-study/ https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2018/02/20/clearing-up-some-myths-around-e-cigarettes/ https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vaping-in-england-an-evidence-update-february-2019/vaping-in-england-evidence-update-summary-february-2019 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/821179/Vaping_in_England_an_evidence_update_February_2019.pdf You were missing who sponsored your "evidence" 55555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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