Israel bars U.S. Democratic lawmakers under pressure from Trump

[Hogs]

Just now, DannyCarlton said:

Yep. Disgusting that they won't let white supremacists and the KKK have their say.

HILARIOUS show me one picture of Trump with a KKK member 

I can show you pictures of Clintons Biden with KK members hugging and kissing

Only the ignorant fall your your narrative

[Bluespunk]

8 minutes ago, Hogs said:

Bigotry is BS another word thrown around by the left when the reality is they are the real Bigots LOL since you know the terminology of the word and it is the LEFT ie(antifa for one) who refuse to let anyone have a difference of opinion and refuse to accept any opinion other than their own.

 

 

Ah the thinking of those who cannot tolerate different perspectives. 

 

Or tolerance itself. 

 

Everything needs a label for such people. 

 

bigotry 

 

noun

intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

"the difficulties of combating prejudice and bigotry"

 

synonyms:prejudice, bias, partiality, partisanship, sectarianism, discrimination, unfairness, injustice

[Hogs]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Ah the delusional thinking of those who cannot tolerate different perspectives. 

 

Or tolerance itself. 

 

Everything needs a label. 

 

bigotry 

 

noun

intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

"the difficulties of combating prejudice and bigotry"

 

synonyms:prejudice, bias, partiality, partisanship, sectarianism, discrimination, unfairness, injustice

Exactly 

I accept everyones opinion even though I do not agree with it 

Democrats are far from that and are the True race baiters and haters 

[Bluespunk]

Just now, Hogs said:

Exactly 

I accept everyones opinion even though I do not agree with it 

Democrats are far from that and are the True race baiters and haters 

Ah the irony. 

[PaceArrow]

Good move by the PM of Israel to deny these two individuals a visit into his country. These two Muslims should have never been elected to Congress in the first place. I seriously doubt they will be reelected in 2020 by the voters of Minnesota and Michigan after their true radical agenda has been displayed with their anti-America and anti-Semitic Rhetoric.  

Radical left wing Liberal Socialist Democrats are on the losing end for 2020!!!!

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What I find remarkable is two young relatively inexperienced Democrat Representatives have, almost certainly because of their lack of experience, provided Trump with an easy target, and the more experienced Democrats are seemingly doing nothing to guide them out of the cross hairs.

 

In what is now the run up to the 2020 election these two should have been advised to stay away from Israel/Palestine and focus on the needs of their own districts.

 

Pelosi and their district organisation need to have a firm word with them. 

 

I find it remarkable posters pretend not to be aware of issues. Even when these were discussed on previous topics in which they participated.

 

Issues between certain elements in the Democrat party and its leadership are nothing new. The tensions generated between headline seeking members of congress (such as these two) and more mainstream representatives has been reviewed. So where the political difficulties in addressing their actions and style by Democrat leadership.

 

I don't think either congresswomen got much interest in "guidance", or for that matter - being a team player (unless the team adopts their narrative and views).

 

Firm words were issued before. Didn't seem to do the trick. And rifts among the ranks aren't good for upcoming elections either.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

 

 

There is nothing anti semitic about the graphic. Anti zionist? Maybe subliminally. It's an accurate caricature of 2 world leaders. Their religeon is irrelevant to the grapic.

 

So says you. The NYT felt differently.

[Sujo]

44 minutes ago, Hogs said:

It is not wrong by any measure, nothing positive can come out of letting those disgusting racists into Israel I am not even a jew but I stand against ANY true racists in this case disguised as Democrats.

 

Good to know you hate trump ????

[Morch]

1 hour ago, JamJar said:

 

More propaganda and misinformation. One might wonder quite how the Jews managed to strike Arab aircraft whilst they were on the ground.

The 1967 war started with a pre-emptive strike by the Jews. It just gets tiresome having to look at this BS repeated time and again. 

Try to paint the Jews as heroes and the Arabs as the baddies. Tiresome nonsense.

There is little doubt that the Jews provoked skirmishes and started wars. 

They grab more land and then claim it is done in self-defence. But anyone with even a modicum of intelligence will understand that it is all part of the long term plan of the original terrorists.

 

Anyone who doesn't submit to your twisted points of view is labelled in a derogatory fashion. it's really more than pathetic.

 

Even if one was unaware of your posting history and views, then putting up this rant right after claiming "I don't have have an inherent bias." in a previous post sort of gives up the game.

[BestB]

2 hours ago, Paul Henry said:

Palestine owned the land, the jews from all over the world invaded Palestine after 1945 and with acts of terrorism established a base and then a country. Remember in the days of Christ most people in Jerusalem where black of African decent.

Considering there was never a country called Palestine , how could it own the land?

[Galactus]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

What "trump" clearly pushed, what Bibi clearly did in response to his pushing is really bad for the future of Israel. Unfortunately, Israel policy was already shifting into another partisan issue when historically it hasn't been so, but this makes it worse. Those congresswomen are elected U.S.A. officials. Israel in doing this even in response to an unhinged demagogue president as he is, is an EXTREME DISS to ALL AMERICANS. Bibi should have pushed back. Better to push back against this current occupant of the white house than to all Americans. While I am no fan of these congresswomen's views on Israel policy, what happened here makes me want to vomit. Israel demonizers if they haven't realized it already should be ecstatic that they were banned from Israel. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/15/did-trump-israel-get-played-by-omar-tlaib-some-conservatives-think-so/

thanks.

lots of Israelis and jews criticise this now.

bc this is super undemocratic plus getting orders from US is an insult to jews and israelis.

and sure this doesnt help israelis at all!

[Puchaiyank]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

I don't agree with your comic book characterization of their views, but what would have happened if they had visited Israel is that the government of Israel would have respected them as duly elected U.S. government representatives and there could have been a DIALOG. Surely much better than BANNING them. 

Their hate for Israel runs deep...nothing good would have come of their visit...except some prime real estate for photo ops...

[Morch]

1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

Sorry @Morch missed one.

 

1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

@Morch And another.

 

54 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

@Morch And on it goes.

 

These would be three examples of your taking posts out of context, and ignoring the content of mine to serve your deflection. It's nice to see that the name change didn't effect your posting style in the least.

[Solinvictus]

4 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Great decision. These 2 women need to learn there are consequences for their actions. Their hate-mongering has gone way too far.

What competent individual can weigh their (Rep. Omar and Rep. Tlaib) efforts/past comments worse than Trump's history of controversial comments not to mention lies. Ahh I know why..

 

What's wrong with you? Ha. Fox News program you much?

[PingRoundTheWorld]

31 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Yep. Disgusting that they won't let white supremacists and the KKK have their say.

Didn't you just complain that anyone who criticizes Israel is labeled anti-Semitic? The American left is doing exactly the same thing - anyone who doesn't fit their narrative is racist/bigot.

[Puchaiyank]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

They are not anti anything you mention, but are anti the politics of the present leadership of the mentioned countries.

Dang, love really is blind!   ????

[stevenl]

40 minutes ago, Hogs said:

zero ABSOLUTELY Zero proof of him being a racist just the left throwing the word around as usual.

Ask Denzil Washington if Trump is a racist LOL you probably have NO CLUE to what i am referring.

But no surprise there as I find most democrats uneducated where Trumps pas is concerned and tend to ignore the truth to push their false narrative he is a racist.

Yes, after all he said so himself, he is the biggest non racist ever.

[Solinvictus]

4 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

WOW. POTUS agreeing that two bonafide elected members of Congress, which is the co-equal branch of government, should not go to Israel.

 

Treason? Supporting another foreign government? Didn't he tell them to go back home? Isn't one of these congresswomen's ancestral home...............Palestine? So she can't "go back home"!

 

Surreal, this yankee president.

Well said! There have been regular American people getting fired from their jobs for being outspoken about Israel. How much money goes to Israel? It's not anti-semetic, rather, efforts for confronting real issues! #getaclue

[soalbundy]

5 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Both democratic countries?

Seems democracy is only for the favoured

It would appear that democracy isn't strong enough to stand against the opinions of two women.

[Morch]

56 minutes ago, Hogs said:

It is not wrong by any measure, nothing positive can come out of letting those disgusting racists into Israel I am not even a jew but I stand against ANY true racists in this case disguised as Democrats.

 

 

You seem to have missed the part where the visit was on just up until Trump applied pressure. It was considered a less problematic option to let them get on with their act, then to serve them with this media attention bonanza. Doubt there's much grounds for Trump supporters to be going on about racism much.

[Solinvictus]

4 hours ago, morrobay said:

The real problem here is all the people who voted for these two. 

lol. Really?  Your comment undermines democratic values in the states. *Alert* You may be brainwashed from that tv box. ????

[Morch]

9 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

It would appear that democracy isn't strong enough to stand against the opinions of two women.

 

No, it would appear that their Prime Minister isn't strong enough to stand against one tweet.

 

The original decision was to let them have their visit, provocative as it was.

[PingRoundTheWorld]

21 minutes ago, Galactus said:

and an extension of US, created just to create tension and problems in the region. sadly by using many brainwashed innocent jews.

Wow. Delusional. It was European Jews who pushed for reviving their old country. Had nothing to do with the US and was long before the US had any interest in the region (or much of anywhere - the US has been isolationist until WW2!!).

 

18 minutes ago, Galactus said:

even lots of jews or Israelis criticise this decision a lot now. especially ones believe in democracy and sovereignty of the state!

Stop speaking as if you know what Israelis think or feel. I am Israeli-American and couldn't be happier with this decision. If they let them in the country the majority of Israelis would be upset.

[DannyCarlton]

42 minutes ago, Hogs said:

HILARIOUS show me one picture of Trump with a KKK member 

I can show you pictures of Clintons Biden with KK members hugging and kissing

Only the ignorant fall your your narrative

 

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

Wow. Delusional. It was European Jews who pushed for reviving their old country. Had nothing to do with the US and was long before the US had any interest in the region (or much of anywhere - the US has been isolationist until WW2!!).

 

Stop speaking as if you know what Israelis think or feel. I am Israeli-American and couldn't be happier with this decision. If they let them in the country the majority of Israelis would be upset.

Why? Dont they like an allied country’s representatives visiting to express there views?

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Why? Dont they like an allied country’s representatives visiting to express there views?

 

These two congresswoman's views are neither mainstream nor well-received even their own country. That you pretend to expect Israelis to embrace their views is disingenuous, at best.

 

[DannyCarlton]

33 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

So says you. The NYT felt differently.

The NYT has a Jewish editor and the majority of staff are Jewish. Also push the anti-zionist = anti semitic agenda.

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

These two congresswoman's views are neither mainstream nor well-received even their own country. That you pretend to expect Israelis to embrace their views is disingenuous, at best.

 

That you write 'embrace' is disingenuous at best.

[Morch]

5 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

The NYT has a Jewish editor and the majority of staff are Jewish. Also push the anti-zionist = anti semitic agenda.

 

There you go. It's them Jews controlling the media. Thanks for making my point.

Now for reality - the NYT often publishes views critical of Israel and it's government. And not all Jews automatically subscribe to either Zionism or support of the Israeli government.

[Morch]

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

That you write 'embrace' is disingenuous at best.

 

How so? Is it a reasonable expectation for people to accept preaching from foreigners with controversial, inflammatory views? The poster was pretending not to understand why their views and their visit would be unpopular with Israelis. Thanks for doing your little troll bit, though.