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Is It Illegal To Go Through An Orange Light ?


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19 hours ago, Vacuum said:

Looking at the photo, all the oncoming traffic had already stopped before you entered the lights. Pay your fines and be prepared  to stop at the yellow next time.

How do you know they weren't on red? A lot of traffic lights operate one direction and right turns. With the queue in the opposite direction it looks like it could be the case here.

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You gotta laugh, just got exactly the same demand in the post today, there is now an argument going on whether it was her or me driving...Of course she is never wrong...🤣

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1 hour ago, stevenl said:

"If you crossed the line already you should be OK."

No, that is not what the law says, you just made that up.

"Yellow light should be an indicator for drivers to prepare to stop if possible. "

Yes, that is what the law says, and is not the same as your previous sentence.

I was speaking hypothetically, I should have made that clear. So yes, I indeed made it up :)

I know it's not how it works in reality.

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52 minutes ago, rwill said:

Thai law says that if you have not crossed the line before the light turns yellow(orange?) you must stop.  There is no leeway in the law.

This is not what Thai law says

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I got a 500 baht ticket for getting caught halfway through on a yellow light.  The picture showed only yellow, no red, and stated the fine was for yellow.  So yellow apparently means no go.  Paid the fine and learned a new lesson about Thai traffic laws.

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48 minutes ago, transam said:

You gotta laugh, just got exactly the same demand in the post today, there is now an argument going on whether it was her or me driving...Of course she is never wrong...🤣

When the government see how much of a cash cow traffic enforcement is it will be look out time.

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18 hours ago, chang1 said:

When do you slow down - on green or on amber?

What does "prepare to stop" mean?

Who decides if it is "safe"?

At what point does "should" become shouldn't?

When does "could" become couldn't?

Running a red light is unambiguous, running an amber light is a grey area open to interpretation. That is why I have never heard of anyone being done for going through on amber in the UK. Thailand should not be using cameras to fine anyone, for this, if there was no danger to other road users.

It's quite simple, but let me spell it out for you...

When the light changes to amber you check your surroundings and prepare to stop, you do not gun it and hope you make it through before red....a concept lost on many people.

Do you understand why there is green, amber, red....or do you think it should go straight from green to red??

Nothing open to interpretation in this case, tho OP thought he would gun it and got caught, that much is clear from the photos.

Of course they should be fining people for this.....that is a big junction...by the same principle of the OP trying to beat the red, what if somebody else was a little bit itchy for the green...bang!!

There are road rules and laws but they seem to be lost on many people, i do hope you are not part of the problem.

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I am not sure of Thai traffic law until now, but I know in Texas that you must clear the intersection before the light turns red. So to answer your question, it appears orange is not okay. Yellow, yes, but no mixing with the yellow.

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I think the rule is that if you can stop when it turns orange then you should. Speed/ distance etc. Of course you run the risk of the driver behind not following that protocol and ending up with his vehicle embedded in yours. I always exercise caution here because even when you’re light is turning yellow some motorbikes crossing the junction anticipate their light turning to green and just go.

I think I’d just pay the ticket.

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Must make all effort to stop thats the law. Too much speed to be able to stop (as an example) of what some folks site as a reason for not stopping is not considered an excuse to drive through i..e we as licensed drivers are supposed to drive a speeds that allows for lights and be able to stop in time. The issues of cars up our rear-end should be a regular attendance issue as we drive and if tailgating is happening to us, to allow the car to pass by slowing etc so we aren't tailgated.

Cameras in Thailand ... their pictures and sequence of pictures is often poor and inadequate and thus difficult to defend against. The law will always side with the govt. agency in these cases.

i'd pay the fine, despite it sticking somewhat in the craw. Maybe write a polite and conciliatory letter to the head of the camera management division starting you had n o chance to stop in time on a yellow light and crossed the stop demarcation line and went across the intersection as quickly and safely as you could maybe they will waver the fine if you write this before apying it.

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19 hours ago, stevenl said:

Yes, you were able to stop but did not do so. So you did break the law.

There are no laws in Thailand as such, the law is what a policeman interpretates at the time.

The only real law on Thailands roads is genuine common sense, and if you don't have that, then you

may not survive.

 

I think we all know that common sense is in short supply amongst Thais especially where road

behaviour is concerned.

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Your kidding right? 

That picture shows you well before the line and a yellow light.. Yes it's illegal and Yes you should pay the fine 👍

 

Lucky you or another aren't dead... On that note,  I check before going through fkn green lights in LOS as someone like yourself could be coming the other way and take us out 😕

 

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22 minutes ago, Tambs2020 said:

Your kidding right? 

That picture shows you well before the line and a yellow light.. Yes it's illegal and Yes you should pay the fine 👍

 

Lucky you or another aren't dead... On that note,  I check before going through fkn green lights in LOS as someone like yourself could be coming the other way and take us out 😕

 

You know how fast or slow he was going then....?

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