daoyai Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 53 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said: The vultures are circling. One hundred million dollars for being molested, what a joke ! As Robert Burns once said "Tis an ill wind that blows nobody any good" ???? Kind of what I was thinking too. Some (most?) of his "victims" went to him voluntarily and were well compensated for their services, now they are going for the big payday and as always 30%. goes to their layers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, wgdanson said: No, have you? Just read the Reuter's report above. No, I haven't. But I'm not the one claiming something wasn't in the report like you are " nothing in the report to say anything was found around his neck. ". Not mentioning this in a news report is far from the same as it not being there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thasoss Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, RobbyXNorway said: The thing that really puts the nails in the coffin for a "suicide" is the 2 cameras not working at the same time when this so called suicide transpired. Not just 1 camera, but 2. At the same time. This guy was murdered (or switched out, but I find that less likely due to it being a hell of a complicated procedure when you can just off him). The USA...biggest banana republic in the world. yes, a country that has lost it's moral compass and nicely proceeding down the drain...just as it's offsider is doing across the pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, daoyai said: Kind of what I was thinking too. Some (most?) of his "victims" went to him voluntarily and were well compensated for their services, now they are going for the big payday and as always 30%. goes to their layers. Doubt that this dodgy line of defense holds for minors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soistalker Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 It is very unlikely that he broke his hyoid bone, tore cartilage, and other small bones damaged by hanging himself in the cell. Those injuries need velocity or heavy pressure to produce the force required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, RobbyXNorway said: The thing that really puts the nails in the coffin for a "suicide" is the 2 cameras not working at the same time when this so called suicide transpired. Not just 1 camera, but 2. At the same time. This guy was murdered (or switched out, but I find that less likely due to it being a hell of a complicated procedure when you can just off him). Oh, you find it less likely, do you? Well, let me tell you that for the aliens (that have been among us on earth for thousands of years) this is a piece of cake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parallaxtech Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Epstein got what he had coming. However, "victims" don't audition for the role, come back for repeat performances, and encourage friends to share in the riches. If a 14-yr-old shoplifts or robs a 7-11 then they face juvenile jail time. Prostitution at any age is a crime in the US (except Nevada). If they were kidnapped off a schoolyard or taken against their will then they would be victims. I did some bad things when I was a teenager, but I'm not going public about it and sue others for my misdeeds. Epstein was a despicable character, but the morality of these women should also be questioned, unless the Me2 movement considers prostitution to be a virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, Becker said: Oh, you find it less likely, do you? Well, let me tell you that for the aliens (that have been among us on earth for thousands of years) this is a piece of cake! Oh no ! Why implicate ET at this stage of things? Unless....unless......? Ewww. They are sexual perverts? Hmmmm. I guess the long fingers with the knobs on the end do suggest something. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 what was it that he hung himself with ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usviphotography Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 The autopsy is frankly besides the point. He was taken off suicide watch. Cameras were turned off. Not one but two guards conveniently "slept" through the period they were supposed to be watching him. That is the conspiracy. Not whether or not someone walked in and strangled him or they simply bought him the time and allowed him to strangle himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 5 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Surprise Surprise, move along please nothing to see here. How does one hang oneself when no hanging points above waist height in the cells ( from reports I have read) ? With a bit of outside help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: It is understandable people are being hooked on this when the president is himself pushing conspiracy theories. Maybe he knows something you (and we) don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, vinniekintana said: Bedsheet Made of paper tissue, apparently. Big E for effort, Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI5AASIA Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 My understanding is that the term "suicide by hanging" will also include the strangulation when the prisoner uses his article of clothing/sheets tied around an anchor point on the floor and roll himself into a strangulation position. At a guess the fixed concrete stool/post would suffice. Reason for my thinking is my having been called to a local police station many years ago to modify all the cells, this was so that the gap between floor and "u-bend" at the rear of the toilet bowl couldn't be used to anchor anything. The duty officer explained to me that a prisoner had tried to commit suicide the previous evening by hanging themselves, by means of tying his clothing around the base of the toilet bowl and around his neck. Unsuccessful but a scare enough for that station to urgently request that I modify the setup to not be able to be used in such a way again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Maybe he knows something you (and we) don't. Don "The Traitor" Trump? Highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, parallaxtech said: Epstein got what he had coming. However, "victims" don't audition for the role, come back for repeat performances, and encourage friends to share in the riches. If a 14-yr-old shoplifts or robs a 7-11 then they face juvenile jail time. Prostitution at any age is a crime in the US (except Nevada). If they were kidnapped off a schoolyard or taken against their will then they would be victims. I did some bad things when I was a teenager, but I'm not going public about it and sue others for my misdeeds. Epstein was a despicable character, but the morality of these women should also be questioned, unless the Me2 movement considers prostitution to be a virtue. You're sad, blaming 14 year old girls for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, usviphotography said: The autopsy is frankly besides the point. He was taken off suicide watch. Cameras were turned off. Not one but two guards conveniently "slept" through the period they were supposed to be watching him. That is the conspiracy. Not whether or not someone walked in and strangled him or they simply bought him the time and allowed him to strangle himself. For once I agree with you. However I think it is not a conspiracy, but simply a very inept prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 somebody trying to kill themselves by hanging, it appears that it takes quite sometime and prior to the final moments an hanged person moves,, makes some noise trying to get air, kicks, etc., and the guards didn't see/heard anything, puzzling isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 51 minutes ago, AI5AASIA said: he duty officer explained to me that a prisoner had tried to commit suicide the previous evening by hanging themselves, by means of tying his clothing around the base of the toilet bowl and around his neck. Is that known as "death by toilet"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan grice Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Remember the day’s before do gooder Liberals. One read Kiddy Shagger Tops Himself, and descent Folk commented GOOD.!.⚖️Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Estrada said: Should be stated as an assisted suicide.... Took him off suicide watch, took away his compulsory cell mate and the guards did not check on him for 3 hours (should be every 30 minutes). Also cloth sheets instead of paper, and bunk beds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 A racist troll post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, alan grice said: Remember the day’s before do gooder Liberals. One read Kiddy Shagger Tops Himself, and descent Folk commented GOOD.!.⚖️ And now they're screaming "conspiracy!" instead? Because this thread mainly discusses whether that POS Epstein died by his own hands or if there was a nefarious conspiracy by deep state agents controlled by the global elite (read: Clintons) to help him on his way. But I'm sure it felt good for you to blather a bit about "do gooder Liberals". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan grice Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Shame all Dems dont do same. Go Trump.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Smartest take on the Epstein "suicide"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, alan grice said: Shame all Dems dont do same. Go Trump. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Do what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
248900_1469958220 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Apparently his ex girlfriend and 'Madam' who also allegedly had sex with these underage girls.....has been spotted eating a burger and reading a book about CIA operatives......WHY....is this woman not in custody? There is a real double standard when it comes to this kind of thing....What are they waiting for? https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/jeffrey-epsteins-gal-pal-ghislaine-maxwell-spotted-at-in-n-out-burger-in-first-photos-since-his-death/ I ask you.... <deleted>!!??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 9 hours ago, daoyai said: also "shrieks" heard from his cell at the time... maybe Hillary was there? A man is dead, possibly by suicide or foul play. Your humor is sick and I am grateful I don't know you. I can only assume you must have ingested something that altered your judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan grice Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Why.?.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 10 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Surprise Surprise, move along please nothing to see here. How does one hang oneself when no hanging points above waist height in the cells ( from reports I have read) ? Pretty easy as long as there’s a door handle or anything else you can tie some fabric to. I’m not gonna get into the details on how to do it here, though, you can look that up online. This method wouldn’t allow for a broken neck, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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