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More instances of VAR failing in the City vs Zagreb game. There was a clear handball by Zagreb missed by the officials and VAR, and there was a clear foul on Aguero (defender trod on Aguero's foot and sent him over) which VAR reviewed but didn't give. Both should have been penalties in the opinion of the BT Sport panellists and Peter Walton (who almost always defends refs/VAR but not this time). Not impressed with VAR so far.

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The introduction of VAR this season has been a shambles no more than last night.

Obvious penalties are for some reason not being given.Supporters,managers,players ,staff at grounds have no idea what is going on.

 

If FIFA ,FA want to see how effective VAR can be when there is actually a workable system they should be watching the Rugby World Cup ,as I am from Japan....brilliant and they don't allow players to be confronting refs waving their arms and mouthing off. There's a split screen for the millions watching on the box ,referee ,linesmen are miked up with the control room you can hear every word and reason given for decisions

 

I first watched the use of VAR in 1996 when it was used for the first time in Australian Rugby League it took them years to refine it as the were trail blazers in a football code.

Its still not perfect but as close as you possibly can get. They also don't have referees running to a pitch side monitor its all on big screens which with the money in our game should be compulsory.

 

How hard is it to get it right when other football codes have the template in place ?

 

 

 

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^Totally agree.

 

Yesterday i watched the Rugby Quarter finals and Palace vs City. What a contrast.

 

In the England vs Australia game we had the welsh ref  and TMO brilliantly conversing and working out the right decisions while all the time it was all visible and audible.

 

In the Palace game Zaha fouls KdB in the box it goes to VAR, you have no idea of what the VAR is doing, AND YOU JUST KNEW THE VAR WAS GOING TO AGREE WITH THE REFS WRONG DECISION. 

 

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On 10/3/2019 at 3:45 PM, Bredbury Blue said:

More instances of VAR failing in the City vs Zagreb game. There was a clear handball by Zagreb missed by the officials and VAR, and there was a clear foul on Aguero (defender trod on Aguero's foot and sent him over) which VAR reviewed but didn't give. Both should have been penalties in the opinion of the BT Sport panellists and Peter Walton (who almost always defends refs/VAR but not this time). Not impressed with VAR so far.

It's taking you a long time to get over that Champs League quarter final v Spurs. Move on.

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8 minutes ago, champers said:

It's taking you a long time to get over that Champs League quarter final v Spurs. Move on.

I hope you are trying to be funny or sarcastic.

 

I am honestly very disappointed in VAR, and i was one of those all for it coming in. I saw it as the way of ensuring correct decisions were always given, but it doesn't!

 

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Just saw the incident in the Spurs vs Watford game when Vertoghen brought down Deulofeu in the penalty box, you could see Vertoghen lifts his foot/leg and trips him, it goes to VAR and they agree with the ref no penalty (unbelievable) - doesn't VAR ALWAYS agree with the ref! Thought I'd have a look at how Dermot Gallagher viewed it in his review of incidents - see below. VAR becomes more and more a joke!

 

INCIDENT: Jan Vertonghen makes a challenge on Gerard Deulofeu.

DERMOT'S VERDICT: Wrong decision, penalty.

DERMOT SAYS: "It's a penalty. The ball's the clue, at no point does Vertonghen get it. This is one I think they will reflect on when they meet up, asking why they didn't give it and work out how you're going to progress forward.

"If that happens next week, I think you're duty-bound to give a penalty."

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22 minutes ago, keithsimmonds said:

Humour me Tv experts....why was Kdb not offside from the corner that led to his goal.....I know i am over 5847 miles away but he looked offside to me.:omfg:

Just spent 5 minutes on Youtube looking for the goal from taking the corner onwards to see if you are right but failed to find. But i think we maybe got lucky with VAR for once: thought it might be argued Sterling's action maybe affected Heaton and maybe made him offside.

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VAR didn't give offside as de Bruyne was credited by them with the goal. Had they decided Silva touched it then Sterling would have been offside and the goal disallowed.

 

The Goal Accreditation Panel have subsequently awarded the goal to Silva therefore it shouldn't have stood so the VAR decision was incorrect....for a change!

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1 hour ago, keithsimmonds said:

Humour me Tv experts....why was Kdb not offside from the corner that led to his goal.....I know i am over 5847 miles away but he looked offside to me.:omfg:

If you mean the first pass mate then he wasn't as you can't be offside directly from a corner kick.

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28 minutes ago, wilai said:

VAR didn't give offside as de Bruyne was credited by them with the goal. Had they decided Silva touched it then Sterling would have been offside and the goal disallowed.

 

The Goal Accreditation Panel have subsequently awarded the goal to Silva therefore it shouldn't have stood so the VAR decision was incorrect....for a change!

 

Here's the actual statement.

 

Explaining the VAR decision, the Premier League match centre said: “Manchester City’s second goal was given because there as no definitive angle or view for the VAR official to show that David Silva had touched the ball.


“When Kevin de Bruyne strikes it the check was made whether Raheem Sterling was offside and he was shown to be onside.”


The goal has since been awarded to David Silva by the Goal Accreditation Panel.

 

A Premier League tweet read: "After review, the Goal Accreditation Panel have awarded Man City’s second goal to David Silva.

 

"The Goal Accreditation Panel is an independent entity which has no affiliation with VAR."

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I don't understand how City got away with 2 handballs defending in the box, yet Mane the week before is called for a handball. I thought the rule now was, accidental or not it is handball regardless, as was with the Mane goal. What's the ruling...

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19 minutes ago, BangrakBob said:

don't understand how City got away with 2 handballs

Bob you'll have to remind us of the two incidents and who was involved as i don't recall City getting away with any handballs defending in the box.

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