webfact Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Chinese embassy tells Canada to stop meddling in Hong Kong affairs FILE PHOTO: Flags of Canada and China are placed for the first China-Canada economic and financial strategy dialogue in Beijing, China, November 12, 2018. REUTERS/Jason Lee/Pool/File Photo OTTAWA (Reuters) - China's embassy in Ottawa warned Canada on Sunday to stop meddling in Hong Kong affairs a day after the country issued a joint statement with the European Union in defence of the "fundamental right of assembly" for Hong Kong citizens. Hundreds of thousands of anti-government protesters rallied peacefully in Hong Kong on Sunday in the 11th week of what have been often violent demonstrations in the Asian financial hub. On the eve of Sunday's rally, Canadian Foreign Minister Chyrstia Freeland and EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said: "Fundamental freedoms, including the right of peaceful assembly ... must continue to be upheld." The Canada-EU statement also expressed concerns about the escalation of violence and encouraged engagement by all sides to ease tensions. The Chinese embassy said in a statement on its website that Canada should "immediately stop meddling in Hong Kong affairs and China's internal affairs." "Under the current situation, the Canadian side should be cautious on its words and deeds regarding the Hong Kong related issue," the statement from an unnamed "spokesperson" for the Chinese embassy in Canada said. "The relevant protests and demonstrations in Hong Kong have already deteriorated and evolved into extreme violence. In face of such severe violence and offences, no government with a sense of responsibility would sit idly by," the statement said. Canada's foreign ministry had no immediate response. Canada has about 300,000 citizens living in Hong Kong, the ministry has said. Canada has been caught up in a diplomatic dispute with China since Canada's detention of Huawei Technologies Co Ltd Chief Financial Officer Meng Wanzhou on a U.S. warrant in December. Shortly after Meng's arrest in Vancouver, China detained two Canadian men, who have yet to be released. China has also blocked imports of some Canadian commodities. (Reporting by Steve Scherer; Editing by Peter Cooney) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-08-19 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Right to assemble is one thing. Shutting down an international airport is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, tomazbodner said: Right to assemble is one thing. Shutting down an international airport is another. Do you support their goal of maintaining their autonomous relationship with China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I can't think of a single country that has benefitted more from immigration than Canada, maybe Australia. Displaced Rich Chinese are a large part of their constituency. Almost all are dual citizens, so why wouldn't they say something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 4 hours ago, watcharacters said: Do you support their goal of maintaining their autonomous relationship with China? I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Everyone knows the Chinese cannot take constructive criticism Period..!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBOP Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Vancouver also known as Hongcouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 China should stop meddling in Hong Kong affairs in breach of the Sino-British Joint Declaration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckabroad Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 China already played all its cards when they went ballistic over Canada detaining Meng Wanzhou. They could round up more Canuck expats to accuse of spying, but Canadians already expect the worst when it comes to trade and they are actively seeking other markets. In just a couple of strokes Xi managed to burn all the political goodwill his predecessors had spent decades cultivating among Canada's political parties. "F*** China" is a common expression in Canada nowadays. That won't change until Xi eventually gets replaced (and erased from Chinese records and photographs, like they usually do to their disgraced former leaders). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubfishin Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 hours ago, car720 said: I do. really? your question makes it seem like you are part of the Wu Mao army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibukid Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Geoffggi said: Everyone knows the Chinese cannot take constructive criticism Period..!!!! sounds familiar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 7 hours ago, watcharacters said: Do you support their goal of maintaining their autonomous relationship with China? I also do, but a protest with violence, and also shut down important connections, like an airport, gives the dictatorial government of China a good reason to interfere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Geoffggi said: Everyone knows the Chinese cannot take constructive criticism Period..!!!! I would go further....Chinese can not take ANY criticism and/or advise from anybody because they know it ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 first they started to blame the USA, after that they blamed the UK, now they are blaming Canada, wonder who will be next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 9 hours ago, webfact said: The Chinese embassy said in a statement on its website that Canada should "immediately stop meddling in Hong Kong affairs and China's internal affairs." Unlike China. China stoutly defended (September 2018) its right to publish in an American newspaper a supplement that President Trump attacked as interfering in the United States elections, saying the publication was lawful and commonplace. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/27/world/asia/china-trump-election-meddling.html China wants freedom of speech in other nations affairs but not for the autonomous Hong Kong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugocnx Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Happy to see that it is not always the US that pulls the joker. Canada and the EU now in bed? Whatever, any critics or God forbid meddling in China's affairs is prone to rhetoric or military BS. Wanna go that way? Vote democrats y'all Americans and get your AI tag as soon as possible. No way out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugocnx Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 The Chinese are soon to take over Hong Kong and after that, because of all the communist loving leftist approving it most certainly, they will take the rest, being Taiwan and the Dalai Lama's refuge. Still no uprising from the cowardly west? They will take all of the Chinese sea with every island in it and then take the Phlippo's. Vietnam, Myanmar maybe Cambodia and Laos are also communist prone, so mind you, in the near future 'loss of face Thailand' will be annexed as well. Highly possible as I predicted before (not here) that the military will never no more loose their grip on Thailand's politics. It's the stairway to hell; not to heaven. Power to the state...you know what happens right? Orson Welles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Canuckabroad said: China already played all its cards when they went ballistic over Canada detaining Meng Wanzhou. They could round up more Canuck expats to accuse of spying, but Canadians already expect the worst when it comes to trade and they are actively seeking other markets. In just a couple of strokes Xi managed to burn all the political goodwill his predecessors had spent decades cultivating among Canada's political parties. "F*** China" is a common expression in Canada nowadays. That won't change until Xi eventually gets replaced (and erased from Chinese records and photographs, like they usually do to their disgraced former leaders). Which disgraced former leaders would that be? It's not China's fault that Canadians are so scared of America they are quite prepared to do Pompeo's dirty work to their own detriment. They just chose the wrong bum to lick. But no doubt did it very politely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Katipo said: China should stop meddling in Hong Kong affairs in breach of the Sino-British Joint Declaration How have they breached the declaration? You will be roughly the twentieth person who has said that and I have asked. i In the unlikely event that you answer, you will be the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Baht Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Traubert said: How have they breached the declaration? Hong Kong was supposed to remain an autonomous democracy for 50 years (till 2047). So yeah it's a breach. https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/03/24/will-left-hong-kongs-autonomy-2047/2047/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Traubert said: How have they breached the declaration? You will be roughly the twentieth person who has said that and I have asked. i In the unlikely event that you answer, you will be the first. The issue has been the continuous erosion of the Basic Law and the agreement on the handover. There have been periodic demonstrations over the years. As far as breaches, probably the most notable was the arrest of 5 booksellers in 2015 who were selling books banned in Mainland China. At least one of the people who 'disappeared' was arrested by the Chinese in Hong Kong. This is a clear violation. The current problem has to do with a proposed change which would allow extradition of people from Hong Kong to the Mainland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Credo said: As far as breaches, probably the most notable was the arrest of 5 booksellers in 2015 who were selling books banned in Mainland China. At least one of the people who 'disappeared' was arrested by the Chinese in Hong Kong. And "driven" to make a video apologizing for his unacceptable behavior. It is depressing to watch. I live to see the day 1B people decide that they have had "enough". Fear of the people is the reason communist governments always resort to heavy handed control in the end, and inevitably fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Roy Baht said: Hong Kong was supposed to remain an autonomous democracy for 50 years (till 2047). So yeah it's a breach. https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/03/24/will-left-hong-kongs-autonomy-2047/2047/ No. I was designated a Special Administrative Region, not an autonomous one. Same as Macao. China's autonomous regions are Guangxi, Tibet, Outer Mongolia, Ningxia and Xinjiang. It still has the political system it was left by the British in 1998 so what has changed? By the way the HKFP is a very questionable source that surprisingly sprung up during the 2014 protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, Credo said: The issue has been the continuous erosion of the Basic Law and the agreement on the handover. There have been periodic demonstrations over the years. As far as breaches, probably the most notable was the arrest of 5 booksellers in 2015 who were selling books banned in Mainland China. At least one of the people who 'disappeared' was arrested by the Chinese in Hong Kong. This is a clear violation. The current problem has to do with a proposed change which would allow extradition of people from Hong Kong to the Mainland. Their problem or if I dare say it, offence, is that they were selling banned books IN mainland China from a warehouse IN mainland China. The allegation was that one was lifted in HK, and his statement that he went over of his own accord was widely refuted by the western press, but then again it would be wouldn't it? So how else has the Basic Law been eroded? Let me guess, the kids who wouldn't take their Oath of Office correctly. No Parliament in the world would allow them to. Example, Sinn Fein have 9 seats in the UK Parliament but won't swear allegiance to the Queen. They can't sit either. The Basic Law is subject to ratification by the National People's Congress, as agreed in the Handover Declaration. When they are called on to make a judgement, it's no use whining about it, it was agreed in 1998 and it's not in breach of the declaration however much they don't like it. It's nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 55 minutes ago, Credo said: The current problem has to do with a proposed change which would allow extradition of people from Hong Kong to the Mainland. Sorry I omitted this part. It also proposed extradition to Macao and Taiwan. That seems to have been conveniently forgotten. The main issue was about a murder committed in Taiwan by a Hong Kong resident who fled and thereafter who could only be charged with money laundering. Taiwan wanted him but there was no extradition treaty in place. He remains free because of that. Murder abroad is being approved by the protestors to save their selfish skins from any perceived future necessity to answer for their own crimes in other territories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 15 hours ago, lannarebirth said: I can't think of a single country that has benefitted more from immigration than Canada, maybe Australia. Displaced Rich Chinese are a large part of their constituency. Almost all are dual citizens, so why wouldn't they say something? yes inflated housing prices have benefited a few and hurt others and many of the chinese have purchased with laundered money... great benefits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Traubert said: Sorry I omitted this part. It also proposed extradition to Macao and Taiwan. That seems to have been conveniently forgotten. The main issue was about a murder committed in Taiwan by a Hong Kong resident who fled and thereafter who could only be charged with money laundering. Taiwan wanted him but there was no extradition treaty in place. He remains free because of that. Murder abroad is being approved by the protestors to save their selfish skins from any perceived future necessity to answer for their own crimes in other territories. ....and perhaps HK should be the ones to determine what/who they want to extradite. Not China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Inflammatory post and reply removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selatan Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Traubert said: Sorry I omitted this part. It also proposed extradition to Macao and Taiwan. That seems to have been conveniently forgotten. The main issue was about a murder committed in Taiwan by a Hong Kong resident who fled and thereafter who could only be charged with money laundering. Taiwan wanted him but there was no extradition treaty in place. He remains free because of that. Murder abroad is being approved by the protestors to save their selfish skins from any perceived future necessity to answer for their own crimes in other territories. In a sense, if Beijing was really behind the proposed amendment to the extradition law (which I don't believe they were involved), then one may consider that as interfering in the "rights" of Hong Kong criminals to seek sanctuary in Hong Kong. If only the protesters had put up placards saying "Don't take away my right to commit crimes in Taiwan, Macau and Mainland China!" then everyone else in the world would not need to scratch their heads to ask about what the protests were all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisperone Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Traubert said: It's not China's fault that Canadians are so scared of America they are quite prepared to do Pompeo's dirty work to their own detriment. They just chose the wrong bum to lick. US and Canada is probably the strongest alliance in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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