Bad Guys Out! Immigration chief outlines latest busts of foreigners

[sambum]

23 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

From my reading, I didn't see one farang mentioned here, yeh this 40 year old TM 30 thing is great, as I went to Chiang Mai for the weekend, an 11 hour drive each way, and for the pleasure, I then had to go off to our immigration office today for the wife to provide them with the TM 30 form saying my husband who has been living here for 4 years is back, that was a two and a half hour return trip, talk about being knackered ????

 

Hopefully the password arrives soon for this TM 30 app because having to do the drive each time I leave the province will do my head in !!!

Is it possible to drive while wearing leg shackles or an electronic ankle monitor?

[Titan1962]

1 hour ago, wwest5829 said:

As an American, I was discussing that line of reasoning with a Brit just this morning. My ending, however, was the granting of Permanent Residency. I believe all governments should act in a reciprocal manner. What is required of me ... automatically applies to Thais in the US ... 

That would be fantastic if we could gain permanent residency after so many years,but I don’t think we will see that in my lifetime. But we can only dream,like waiting for the death toll to be reduced,it’s an easy fix but will never happen.

[phetpeter]

23 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

I then had to go off to our immigration office today for the wife to provide them with the TM 30 form saying my husband who has been living here for 4 years is back,

If you built or bought the house while you were married, you should arrange for the joint ownership of the house and your name legally place on the documents, and as the co-owner, you will not have to report. Your name and address will be registered with the government.

[4MyEgo]

38 minutes ago, sambum said:

Is it possible to drive while wearing leg shackles or an electronic ankle monitor?

The wife does have a license and can drive quite well for a Thai, as for the leg shackles and or ankle monitor, the leg shackles win hands down as I could think of a few beauties I could put those on, oh dear, oh my.....

[4MyEgo]

30 minutes ago, phetpeter said:

If you built or bought the house while you were married, you should arrange for the joint ownership of the house and your name legally place on the documents, and as the co-owner, you will not have to report. Your name and address will be registered with the government.

Unfortunately farang cannot be on title when it is land.

[smudger1951]

I've been back home in UK for a couple of weeks now, I was beginning to feel like Dr Richard Kimball.

[Max69xl]

43 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Unfortunately farang cannot be on title when it is land.

Even the house you built has to be in your wife's name. And a farang can't register in the blue house book. Only Thai Nationals.

[Mikisteel]

These are just low hanging fruits. 

[4MyEgo]

2 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

Even the house you built has to be in your wife's name. And a farang can't register in the blue house book. Only Thai Nationals.

Farang can go in the blue book as a guest.

[Tropposurfer]

Foot crossing of remote border areas by bad guys !!! Man they need a big,  beautiful, wall !!!!! Lol lol ???? 

[55Jay]

On 8/19/2019 at 3:00 PM, zydeco said:

Next raid will be at the Foreign Correspondents' Club of Thailand.

Followed by this band of desperados!  ????

 

 

[PerkinsCuthbert]

14 minutes ago, 55Jay said:

Followed by this band of desperados!  ????

 

 

Old Doris in the middle looks like she's packing a rod under the table.

[gamesgplayemail]

6 hours ago, Max69xl said:

You don't know what you're talking about. The law says that EVERY foreigner has to be reported staying somewhere/anywhere. It doesn't matter if your wife checks you in. You are still the foreigner. Maybe you have never stayed at a proper hotel/guesthouse, where they ALWAYS submit the TM30? You can not refuse to give them your passport or you will get denied to stay. I'm just telling you what the law says. I don't care the least if they don't report me,because it's not my problem. And handing over the passport for a couple of copies isn't that hard. Nothing to whine about.

 

Thank you for your confirmation, you exactly are the kind that I was thinking you are.

If any hotel asks my passport, I just move to another one.

I don't care this stupid law and despise idiots who follow it.

 

 

[gamesgplayemail]

6 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

If it was that easy I would be doing it clown, the hotel was booked in my wife's name, as all hotels are, do you think for one minute I don't think outside the square, give me a break !

 

Every hotel I have stayed at asks for my wife's Thai ID, my passport and the kids ID's, when asked why, hotel policy sir, and we must know have every persons identification on file in case of accident or fire.

 

I have no problem in complying if people explain their reasoning and if it hotel policy, is what it is, and makes sense, suffice to say you sound like a cheap Charlie staying in one of those crappy 500 baht a night hotels that have no policy, but then again, I shouldn't judge as I can leave that all to you.

 

Just keep doing what you do best, brag, brag, brag, it's trash like you that makes it all the harder for us who have to comply.

 

Hopefully your day is coming !  

 

Another champion !

So ridiculous to comply with all these stupid policies.

Of course, because you also are the kind who doesn't feel safe if booking was not done before going to hotel, it's hard for you to change your hotel when the idiots ask for what is not their business !

 

 

 

 

[gamesgplayemail]

6 hours ago, Victornoir said:

Try to present your Thai driver's license next time. It is suitable for all hotels as it indicates your passport number.

 

On the other hand it does not allow to fill a TM30 which is not obligatory for the hotelier insofar as it rents to your wife Thaie.

 

I travel all the time from one province to another. I have never filled the TM 30, neither on a trip nor on my return, and I have just extended my retirement visa successfully.

 

Exactly ! But try to explain this to those who never grew some...

 

 

 

 

[Jen65]

my gripe about this TM30 business is why are we ( resident/retiree/long stay visa) treated the same as tourist visa !!! Surely ,as resident ,if we have been vetted , given a 1 year visa , provided the money in the bank details and report every 90 days , then do we really need the TM30 ????   Keep if for short stay/tourists yes and give us a break ! 

[pomchop]

On 8/19/2019 at 4:50 AM, Odysseus123 said:

So..they finally caught the nefarious 50 year old Burmese woman running the curry and rice stall?

 

Interpol will be pleased.

But the red bull heir is still on the run.

[RichardColeman]

Be interested to know if anyone has actually seen someone being arrested on 90 day report

[4MyEgo]

2 hours ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

Another champion !

So ridiculous to comply with all these stupid policies.

Of course, because you also are the kind who doesn't feel safe if booking was not done before going to hotel, it's hard for you to change your hotel when the idiots ask for what is not their business !

 

 

 

 

Ridiculous it is, but as I said, is what it is !!!

 

Your right that I do feel safe booking beforehand, because what idiot in their right mind with 4 kids would travel to a hotel without first reading the reviews before booking it, i.e. you don't drive 11 hours or fly 9 hours before first knowing if the room types are suitable, interconnecting rooms and on the same level as the kids, breakfast options, either included in the price or optional to pay, swimming pool, security, parking etc etc

 

As for changing hotels when someone asks for something that is as you say; not their business is incorrect, everyone staying in a hotel must provide their ID if asked, it's their policy and right, and yes I have tried to play dumb at times to avoid this TM 30 reporting, but if you can keep getting away with it, good for you, maybe nobody notices you because you don't have 4 kids always calling you or running to you, which makes it not hard to attract attention, that and maybe you stay in cheap Charlie hotel as I said, each to their own ay ????

  

[zydeco]

1 hour ago, Jen65 said:

my gripe about this TM30 business is why are we ( resident/retiree/long stay visa) treated the same as tourist visa !!! Surely ,as resident ,if we have been vetted , given a 1 year visa , provided the money in the bank details and report every 90 days , then do we really need the TM30 ????   Keep if for short stay/tourists yes and give us a break ! 

Because we are all still tourists, no matter the length of the visa or the extension.

[4MyEgo]

3 hours ago, Victornoir said:

Look again.
Your passport number is under your date of birth on motorcycle and car licenses.
If you do not see it, maybe the problem is you...

I just had a look again, problem is not me as the number recorded there has nothing to do with my passport, suffice to say I took it to the big chief and she said looks like your Pink Thai ID Card Number, so I checked that and bingo, that is exactly what it is.

 

I will try to hand in my Thai Pink ID and Driver's Licence next time I am asked and see if the hotel accepts that, suffice to say, they are actually ID's so I don't see why they wouldn't accept them, but I do also recall last October when I flew down to Phuket, on a domestic flight which was connecting with an international flight (different airline), Air Asia at the domestic side wouldn't accept either ID card, they required my passport, I asked politely why, and the little pretty things said, because it is airline policy sir, I said but Thai's check in with Thai ID's, yes sir, but you are a foreigner and all foreigners must check in using their passports, lol, I didn't want to argue with her as she would have lost face and we couldn't have that now could we, but then again she might be correct, I wasn't up to speed on the airlines policy either so I didn't want to lose face either, and I know now that there is a clear difference between farangs and Thai's ????

 

[4MyEgo]

3 hours ago, Victornoir said:

He may be registered as usufructuary for life. As is my case.

Correct, but why would one bother, in my opinion, it's easier to walk away if things go sour, and in my case, I only invest as much as I am prepared to lose, and if we ever did split, she has 4 kids to raise, so they would need a roof over their heads, she could have it all, the car, bike, the lot, she would deserve it, you might be single and have other reasons that might suit you, each to their own.

[Traubert]

15 hours ago, justaphase said:

Its gonna get worse and worse. My ex wife said that they don't want us here. Only the money..

She might have had a vested interest, maybe 'they' meant 'I.'

14 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Myanmar people are also foreigners in Thailand. 

Oh yes, but they're little brown chaps. The only important foreigners are the unkempt, fat, white, drunk chaps who keep the economy afloat by buying baht buster breakfasts doncha know?

 

All joking aside, it's a salient point. Immigration does not only deal with 150,000 westerners, they deal with over 2m immigrants, tourists aside. I have shuddered at how many of these posts have started 'what they should do...' What applies to Pedah from St Albans doesn't apply to Khin La from Myanmar or Kosal from Cambodia. It's a classic example of living in a self generated bubble.

[alexlm]

Romance Scam 101...

[brianthainess]

On 8/19/2019 at 3:26 PM, Titan1962 said:

I can understand the need for Thailand to keep track of immigrants in Thailand. But as the above mentioned cases shows the TM 30 doesn’t really help catch illegals,as they don’t report.

But maybe they should introduce say let’s call it a probationary period that we the honest retirees need to follow.For the first 5 yrs of living here we need to report our location as required. Then after that if we have not caused any trouble,or proven to be honest people abiding the laws we get a break. 

Maybe a change to our visa that allows us to travel freely. Permanent address need only be supplied,break any laws relating to the visa would result in losing those privileges.

I see a lot of complaining but not to many solutions,maybe it’s a step in the right direction.

I do have one solution but it is abhorrent to freedom of movement,to my knowledge every province has a boarder road checking point,so if you need to do a TM 30 why cant it be done there if you need to ? oh silly me no one there when the sun goes down, or if its raining .  ????

[Gweiloman]

Your gf sounds like she has solid control over things and, maybe, you. Better make sure you keep her happy.

On the contrary. If I get fined because of non reporting, the fine comes out of her allowance (from my experience, giving her a monthly allowance is more cost effective than having a joint account).
Wrt hotel checkin, I rather stay with the car and have a fag instead of having to deal with the hotel/resort staff.
Doncha wish your gf was more like mine? Lol


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[gamesgplayemail]

14 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Ridiculous it is, but as I said, is what it is !!!

 

Your right that I do feel safe booking beforehand, because what idiot in their right mind with 4 kids would travel to a hotel without first reading the reviews before booking it, i.e. you don't drive 11 hours or fly 9 hours before first knowing if the room types are suitable, interconnecting rooms and on the same level as the kids, breakfast options, either included in the price or optional to pay, swimming pool, security, parking etc etc

 

As for changing hotels when someone asks for something that is as you say; not their business is incorrect, everyone staying in a hotel must provide their ID if asked, it's their policy and right, and yes I have tried to play dumb at times to avoid this TM 30 reporting, but if you can keep getting away with it, good for you, maybe nobody notices you because you don't have 4 kids always calling you or running to you, which makes it not hard to attract attention, that and maybe you stay in cheap Charlie hotel as I said, each to their own ay ????

  

 

sorry but who would be stupid enough to have 4 kids and then travel with them ?! I don't think that it's possible !

 

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[4MyEgo]

1 minute ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

sorry but who would be stupid enough to have 4 kids and then travel with them ?! I don't think that it's possible !

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You back again ????

 

No need to keep apologising, your entitled to your opinion, and if I you consider me being stupid to have 4 kids (ever wonder how you got here), love my kids as many dad's do, and yes we go away with them a lot, and enjoy the extra time we all share together in this short life, then yes I am stupid in your narrow mindedness, next trip is Sydney Australia for 12 nights, followed by Phuket on our return for a week, nice places for the kids to see, a family adventure. What will you be doing, sitting in front of your screen watching PornHub, one must get a real life you know ????

 

Perhaps you didn't receive the love you deserved as a kid, pity ???? and by the way, I kiss and cuddle my kids everyday and tell them that I love them, for life without kids would be less chaotic, adventurous and trying, oh and by the way, the love these kids give me back cannot be measured in any terms, but then again, you wouldn't understand so back to surfing it is for you then. 

 

[DrTuner]

23 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

..then we have the TM 30 to do here, come to think of it, the 2 and a half hour return drive to IO was a piece of cake when compared to what Australia wanted, who knows, maybe we are out of touch with the rest of the world, and Thailand is just catching up....lol

Wife did the biometrics a couple of months back as well. It's only once and then stored in Oz system for future reference. Was a breeze at VFS. In here TM30 requires getting to the office and finding parking (2 x 30min), waiting in the sauna like immigration milking room for 30-45mins and getting reamed by an IO trainee having an utterly hostile attitude. And it's every single time when moving back to residence, not just once. Oz FTW.

[4MyEgo]

2 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

It's only once and then stored in Oz system for future reference.

Sort of correct, but in actual fact the biometrics are good for 10 years, so if she is a spring chicken looking to travel to Oz after 10 years, then she will have to do the process again.

 

All biometrics provided for a temporary residence application are valid for 10 years from the date of biometrics enrolment, regardless of the outcome of the application.

 

As for the TM30, Mrs has applied for the password so we can do it on the app, no more immigration office, will be doing the same with the 90 day reporting, so it will be immigration once a year for extension, I dare say technology can be a useful tool, if we try, in my case, honey.....thanks for doing this ????