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1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

The electorate decided already

You cling to this idea like a louse on the head of a tramp.
The choices of the voters are not fixed. They evolve with time, new information and situations. You can not refuse it.

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32 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

I think we are talking the same thing 😀

 

Parliamentary sovereignty is a principle of the UK constitution. It makes Parliament the supreme legal authority in the UK which can create or end any law.

Agreed, including any law regarding leaving the EU.

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2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Agreed, including any law regarding leaving the EU.

 

 

Agreed.

 

 

Which they have already signed off on.

 

 

Even the EU know that the fallback position is leave on 31 October without a deal.............................. they don't seem too concerned about that........................................ or are they ? 😀

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28 minutes ago, Victornoir said:

You cling to this idea like a louse on the head of a tramp.
The choices of the voters are not fixed. They evolve with time, new information and situations. You can not refuse it.

 

Rubbish................... you are one of those anti-democratic idiots that just want to keep voting until they get the result that suits them.

 

 

Democracy does not, and never has, worked like that.

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16 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

Rubbish................... you are one of those anti-democratic idiots that just want to keep voting until they get the result that suits them.

 

 

Democracy does not, and never has, worked like that.

I’m not sure how a result is achieved without the majority voting for it and if the majority did vote for it how that is not democracy.

 

Nor am I sure how a democracy can lay claim to being a democracy if it does not provide the electorate with a means by voting to change its mind in the light of more information and/out changing circumstances.

 

Please do explain.

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10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure how a result is achieved without the majority voting for it and if the majority did vote for it how that is not democracy.

 

Nor am au sure how a democracy can lay claim to being a democracy if it does not provide the electorate with a means by voting to change its mind in the light of more information and/out changing circumstances.

 

Please do explain.

 

 

Nothing to explain.

 

Trying to overturn democracy, especially for self interest, is undemocratic.

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2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure how a result is achieved without the majority voting for it and if the majority did vote for it how that is not democracy.

 

Nor am au sure how a democracy can lay claim to being a democracy if it does not provide the electorate with a means by voting to change its mind in the light of more information and/out changing circumstances.

 

Please do explain.

If I vote for the Communist Party and they win, then it's too late to change my mind.  They're entitled to run their full term even if their policies send the country down the chute. Too bad if I've changed my mind.

In this instance, Chomper, you're not even allowing Brexit even though the Leavers won and the Prime Minister promised the people that their vote would be acted on.

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1 minute ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Nothing to explain.

 

Trying to overturn democracy, especially for self interest, is undemocratic.

Over turning a decision by voting.

 

How is that not democracy?

 

Oh... I see, you think democracy is ‘winner takes all’.

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1 minute ago, newatthis said:

If I vote for the Communist Party and they win, then it's too late to change my mind.  They're entitled to run their full term even if their policies send the country down the chute. Too bad if I've changed my mind.

In this instance, Chomper, you're not even allowing Brexit even though the Leavers won and the Prime Minister promised the people that their vote would be acted on.

You need to understand Remainer Democracy.

 

You lose the vote, you vote again because Democracy doesn't happen on one day, it's a moving process etc.

You win the vote, the process ends. No more votes. We remain in the EU. 

 

They're just waiting to win one so they can call an end to this pesky process.

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2 minutes ago, newatthis said:

If I vote for the Communist Party and they win, then it's too late to change my mind.  They're entitled to run their full term even if their policies send the country down the chute. Too bad if I've changed my mind.

In this instance, Chomper, you're not even allowing Brexit even though the Leavers won and the Prime Minister promised the people that their vote would be acted on.

You are confusing an election of a government, with a non binding advisory referendum.

 

I’m no ‘not allowing anything’.

 

People have a right to change their minds, clearly you fear they have.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You need to understand Remainer Democracy.

 

You lose the vote, you vote again because Democracy doesn't happen on one day, it's a moving process etc.

You win the vote, the process ends. No more votes. We remain in the EU. 

 

They're just waiting to win one so they can call an end to this pesky process.

Perfectly illustrated by Farage’s declaration that ‘in the event of a 48:52 it would not be game over, not by a long way’.

 

A 52:48 result comes in and he and Brexiteers now shout ‘Game Over’.

 

Away with your nonsense pinning  Brexiteer behaviour on Remain supporters.

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15 hours ago, baboon said:

Damn right they should be recalled. How the hell they seemed to think that swanning off on holiday with this crisis going on was fine, is absolutely bloody mind-boggling.

 

Perhaps because they're arrogant, narcissistic, self entitled, thick skinned, toss-pots who believe that they can do as they please safe in the knowledge that whatever happens they personally and their families and cronies will be alright and prosper!

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Over turning a decision by voting.

 

How is that not democracy?

 

Oh... I see, you think democracy is ‘winner takes all’.

 

 

I have said before, if the Grand National winner wins by a head - he wins.

 

 

They don't have a replay, or try and change the rules, just because the second horse lost.

 

 

What is happening now with the remainers (and Corbyn) is not democracy it is about self-interest and trying to overturn a decision that they don't like.  That is gutter politics, not democracy. Gut Fawkes was closer to democracy than that lot.

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