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Prince Andrew is learning a hard lesson of associating with questionable billionaires and celebs (even if naively unaware of the risks) despite the temptations of all that goes with it. Doesn't matter whether he's innocent (maybe so) or not, but you are damned by association and at the moment looks bad. What is happening here is a good lesson for Prince Harry to observe and take on board regarding who he associates with as it looks like he is going down a similar path with the celeb addiction and profile. Looks like William is not an issue on this front though.

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13 hours ago, Brigand said:

Prince Andrew is learning a hard lesson of associating with questionable billionaires and celebs (even if naively unaware of the risks) despite the temptations of all that goes with it. Doesn't matter whether he's innocent (maybe so) or not, but you are damned by association and at the moment looks bad. What is happening here is a good lesson for Prince Harry to observe and take on board regarding who he associates with as it looks like he is going down a similar path with the celeb addiction and profile. Looks like William is not an issue on this front though.

The best lessons learned are those I have experienced personally. I prefer not to engage in speculation, judgement or analysis of who associates with whom and what may behind these associations. I haven't a clue if he has "learned a hard lesson", as I haven't spoken to him. Being damned by association is most likely inadmissible in court, except perhaps in the court of public opinion.

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This is interesting. It is currently inferred that he (Andrew that is I am not commenting on the other bloke) had sex with a 17 year old prostitute (in England where age of consent is 16)? She was flown in from the USA.

 

Meanwhile here we sit in a country and with many members of this forum that indulge/s in regular prostitution activities with ladies that look younger than say non-asians and are less physically formed that many other races. 

I am not casting the first stone, just waiting to see who is willing to.

 

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11 minutes ago, Benmart said:

The best lessons learned are those I have experienced personally. I prefer not to engage in speculation, judgement or analysis of who associates with whom and what may behind these associations. I haven't a clue if he has "learned a hard lesson", as I haven't spoken to him. Being damned by association is most likely inadmissible in court, except perhaps in the court of public opinion.

I can agree with your sentiment but unfortunately "association" is  cause for investigation at official level in many  places for many reasons and causes. A declaration of total innocence is a dubious valid defense especially in light of the fact Epstein also claimed his innocence. I personally would find it hard to believe those that had  any association with the "facilities" Epstein  provided were totally naive about the scope of them. The court of public opinion may be harsh but the consequences of no legitimate verdict could be avoided by avoiding the cause for speculation in the beginning. There will  be  many who are uncomfortable in the extreme now  because this not a petty tabloid sex  scandal. It is a situation involving proven criminal offenses, ongoing investigation and strange  circumstances leading to  death.

But IMO it is most likely that despite arduous attempts there will be ambiguous outcome given the volume of  wealthy and powerful "associates" .

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51 minutes ago, MRToMRT said:

While the age of consent is relevant to the crimes, if you really want to be SHOCKED look at this (age of consent by country):

 

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/age-of-consent-by-country/

The age of consent in Australia at Federation in 1901 was 12. It still was in Spain into the 1990s ... Standards vary from one culture to another & over time, and what people are allowed to do is not the same as what people approve of.

 

As for the particular individual the subject of this thread, he's not a particularly nice guy or noted for his IQ (just ask any senior civil servant who's had dealings with him).

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Why would "Randy" use Epstein as a pimp? I am sure that all the functions he attends there is always a few women who want to introduce him to their daughters...

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1 hour ago, MRToMRT said:

This is interesting. It is currently inferred that he (Andrew that is I am not commenting on the other bloke) had sex with a 17 year old prostitute (in England where age of consent is 16)? She was flown in from the USA.

 

Meanwhile here we sit in a country and with many members of this forum that indulge/s in regular prostitution activities with ladies that look younger than say non-asians and are less physically formed that many other races. 

I am not casting the first stone, just waiting to see who is willing to.

 

He has been to Phuket a few times in the past and while that does not make him a suspect pervert, shagging a 17 year old who claims she was forced needs investigating.

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