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Foreign Ministry not keen on allowing visa-free entry to Indians, Chinese

By THE NATION

 

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Foreign Ministry building, Bangkok

 

The Foreign Ministry is reportedly against the proposal to grant Indian and Chinese travellers visa-exempt stay for 14 days, citing concerns over national security and social impact. 

 

A Foreign Ministry source said this offer should be made to countries whose citizens pose less of a risk. 

 

This proposal was made by the Tourism and Sports Ministry and will be discussed in the Cabinet on August 20. 

 

The unnamed source said that since both China and India have a huge population, their nationals were prone to entering Thailand illegally to either make a living or to protect themselves from natural disasters in their own countries. 

 

The source cited regular reports about Chinese and Indian nationals being caught working illegally on tourist visas. 

 

Meanwhile, the Association of Thai Travel Agents reportedly played down the concerns, saying visa-exempt stay would be a huge boon for Thailand’s tourism industry.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30375011

 

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I do sometimes wonder if the Thai authorities will ever recognize that it was a mistake to torpedo their reputation, built up organically over half a century, as an easy-going destination for Westerners.

Just this week, I was talking to a friend making his first visit to S.E. Asia. He will be using Kuala Lumpur as his hub because, somehow, he heard that Thailand are no longer happy to have Westerners coming in and out of Bangkok - he wants to visit Thailand, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam but has now arranged it so that he will have to make only one entry into Thailand. I have not said anything to him, but his understanding is that if you leave Thailand and then return a week later, you can be put in a cell and flown back to your home country.

I do not know how representative my friend is of casual Western travelers, but awareness of Thailand's anti-Western sentiment is clearly filtering into that mainstream. That represents a truly massive destruction of hard-won, irreplaceable brand value.

I understand the political reasoning - the Chinese government will never ask awkward questions about democracy - but it seems short-sighted to apply pressure to one group who have been reliably pouring money into your country for decades, in favor of other groups who may not ever actually deliver the five-star visitors that the Thai elites dream of.

I like Thailand, but it is not a five-star destination. For all the lovely things about Thailand, there are very real trade-offs. That's fine with me, because I am not a five-star guy. Thailand was, for decades, the right trade-off for me and many other westerners seeking a break from the world of 9-to-5 and competent driving.

I know that there are Chinese and Indian multi-millionaires, lots of them, but why would they come here? If you have real money, there are far better destinations. I am pretty sure that, at the end of this grand switch, the Thais will end up with roughly the same amount of tourists on roughly the same budgets, but will far less stability and long-term durability.

The real insanity is that they could have continued attracting tourists from both the West while simultaneously developing these new markets. Why jettison their existing market?

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28 minutes ago, donnacha said:

The real insanity is that they could have continued attracting tourists from both the West while simultaneously developing these new markets. Why jettison their existing market?

Because this statement alone reflects a common sense business approach that requires forward planning, and conservation. A skill that at times is severely lacking in the land of smiles.

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2 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Foreign Ministry is reportedly against the proposal to grant Indian and Chinese travellers visa-exempt stay for 14 days, citing concerns over national security and social impact. 

Whaaat .. but , but the Indians were gonna be riding to the rescue of Pattaya only a week or so a go .. Patt's'll be in tears when this gets out .. 

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2 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

A Foreign Ministry source said this offer should be made to countries whose citizens pose less of a risk. 

 

And that country is? The Vatican city?

 

As it stands, all of us as it feels have been demonized so it really cannot be any of our previous home countries of where we are from. As it feels now is as being perceived as an undesirable criminal being ostracized for looking left, or then looking right as the bank account may not meet their high rolling standard. Or on a more superficial line, heavily scrutinized and badgered by the immigration because...…... ? Xenophobic or a feel that of superiority.

 

Yeah I understand that the Thai race is more superior and greater to all the other races. I just keep on forgetting it as my brain is not as good as it used to be. Maybe I need to read Moby <deleted> again. Or was that to watch the series of Flipper again? Such a contemplation.

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yeah but why would they listen to the foreign ministry when the big brass knows best... get those belching tour buses started and open a few more 711s.... yeahaw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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In the past, Malaysia used to give visa exemption to Chinese tourists and Malaysia's tourist numbers were even higher than Thailand's back then. But the Malaysian authorities later removed that privilege when they realised that a huge number of Chinese "tourists" had failed to leave, and so Thailand's tourist numbers overtook Malaysia's. 

 

Why would the Malaysian authorities worry about the presence of illegal Chinese immigrants when there were far higher number of illegal immigrants from other countries, numbering in the millions, working illegally in Malaysia? Well, we have racial politics in Malaysia to blame for that. The ethnic Malays certainly fear the Chinese more than the Indonesians, Bangladeshis and the Burmese because of the dominance of the Malaysian Chinese in the economy.

 

But, now that China has become far richer than in the past, I wouldn't be surprised if Malaysia may once again grant visa exemption to Chinese tourists in the near future if the economy goes down.

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4 hours ago, donnacha said:

I do sometimes wonder if the Thai authorities will ever recognize that it was a mistake to torpedo their reputation, built up organically over half a century, as an easy-going destination for Westerners.

Just this week, I was talking to a friend making his first visit to S.E. Asia. He will be using Kuala Lumpur as his hub because, somehow, he heard that Thailand are no longer happy to have Westerners coming in and out of Bangkok - he wants to visit Thailand, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam but has now arranged it so that he will have to make only one entry into Thailand. I have not said anything to him, but his understanding is that if you leave Thailand and then return a week later, you can be put in a cell and flown back to your home country.
 

 

Great post, Thanks !

 

It is really amazing how they can't make the connection between the way they treat the long term\frequent visitors to repercussion it will have on the casual tourists.

 

When a country acts in a way that is precived as unjust to one of your fellow countryman, people will generally blacklist this country on thier next travel plans..

 

They can't dance on both wedding..

You can't treat expats like criminals, and then expact their countryman to come here and spend money.

 

 

 

 

 

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Should be offering EU US Oz citizens 90 days visa exempt, just limit back to back to 2 and after that need setv and funds proof.

Lot of the westerners who floated around for 6 months or couple years spent fair bit of money and also encouraged friends and others to visit via social media appeal .

Really has taken a massive down turn, malaysia and vietnam taking lot of those numbers, changes to thailand is massive from expat areas of silom to esplanade railway market to pataya and beyond .... indians and chinese will be considerable more hassle and less profits ....
Junta has killed the golden goose and that fat leech general rolex got the last of the golden eggs stashed in his safe next to a borrowed patek philippe  .

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