LomSak27 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 13 hours ago, worgeordie said: Why not get a Thai drivers license ?,nobody is targeting Farangs. Get a Thai driver license. They do target farangs on bikes. Just a matter of time before they do the same to vehicle drivers. You know its coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, LomSak27 said: Just a matter of time before they do the same to vehicle drivers. You know its coming. I don't know that it's coming. What evidence do you have of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, jackdd said: If you had a driving license you don't have to compensate the victims? Or where exactly is the difference in court and do you have any sources for it? It's common knowledge here in Thailand, i.e. if you have an accident and injure or kill someone, you will have to compensate the injured or deceased's family. It's all negotiable, the cops do the negotiating, it's not written in the rule books, it's a way of life, failure to do so will render you in a lot of strife in Thailand. Did you not read up recently were a drunk rich guy paid 45 million baht to a cops family because he killed the cop and his wife and seriously injured their 12 year old daughter, the court fined him some little amount and literally excused him because he coughed up the baht, it is what it is. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1660776/drunk-driver-kills-policeman-wife https://news.thaivisa.com/article/35633/rich-drunk-driving-benz-businessman-buys-off-family-for-45-million-baht-in-death-of-cop-and-wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: It's common knowledge here in Thailand, i.e. if you have an accident and injure or kill someone, you will have to compensate the injured or deceased's family. It's all negotiable, the cops do the negotiating, it's not written in the rule books, it's a way of life, failure to do so will render you in a lot of strife in Thailand. Yes, i know, of course you have to compensate the victim. The user Beggar said that it makes a difference in court if the driver had a driving license or not, so i was asking him what exactly the difference is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, jackdd said: Yes, i know, of course you have to compensate the victim. The user Beggar said that it makes a difference in court if the driver had a driving license or not, so i was asking him what exactly the difference is. I see, probably the fact that you have permission to use the roads, as opposed to not use the roads by not having a driver's licence. The above said, I don't think the courts give a rat$ a$$ whether you have a licence or not if there is compensation involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2long Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Everyone should have a valid licence, and I have 4x Thai* and 1x UK. I show whichever I feel like to get me through. I have experienced far fewer checkpoint stops in the past few years. *Thought I had lost 2 so got 2 replacements, then found the ones I thought I had lost. I break road laws every day, but only on local roads at low speeds. I hate getting caught, but I am overdue plenty of tea money handouts. Have a licence to protect yourself. It's not hard, and you would have one in your own country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 It maybe that the cops have changed over. The others will recognise you to a certain degree and just wave you through if they recognise you and know you have a licence (in this case you don't!). I find this happens sometimes with the younger cops- by the time I have my licence out one of the senior guys normally tells him to wave me through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: 13 minutes ago, LomSak27 said: Just a matter of time before they do the same to vehicle drivers. You know its coming. I don't know that it's coming. What evidence do you have of this? Joined last Thursday and already in heavy deflection rotation. Call me a dreamer, but I believe you have a great career on ThaiVisa ahead of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, LomSak27 said: Joined last Thursday and already in heavy deflection rotation. Call me a dreamer, but I believe you have a great career on ThaiVisa ahead of you. Well, it's your post thats "heavy deflection rotation" whatever that is. I just asked a simple question, you refused to answer it and launched into a personal attack. Obviously a TVF stalwart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Psimbo said: in this case you don't! He said he has an Australian license + IDP, if it's not expired this means he has a license Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
at15 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 rarely stopped and asked for a license but i have an expired license from another country i have shown a few times. now i dont even stop even if they wave me down, they have never chased after me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, cleopatra2 said: In Thailand it is not unlawfull to drive without a licence if the conditions set out in section 57 of the motor vehicle act is adhered to. In such circumstances would the mandatory insurance become invalid ? Section 57 relates to learner drivers who are driving a vehicle while under instruction. In such cases it is the instructor who is liable for damages or accidents. The mandatory insurance would not be invalidated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 15 hours ago, worgeordie said: Why not get a Thai drivers license ?,nobody is targeting Farangs. regards worgeordie Indeed. Get the Pink Card ???? too while you're at it. No fuss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 White skin on a motorbike high probability to get stopped here. I have everything so do not care. But, truthfully I do realize now how black people in the US must feel being targeted due to their skin color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 15 hours ago, worgeordie said: Why not get a Thai drivers license ?,nobody is targeting Farangs. regards worgeordie Today I was stopped by BIB in CNX asked for licence and TM 30, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, blackcab said: Section 57 relates to learner drivers who are driving a vehicle while under instruction. In such cases it is the instructor who is liable for damages or accidents. The mandatory insurance would not be invalidated. Thd road protection acft makes no such exclusion The basic compensation a.monts require no evidence of guilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I'm on my third 5 year Thai license. Last year turned out of a Hua Hin shopping centre onto the main road was stopped at police checkpoint and asked for license, Showed and waved on. Made a U turn after 50 meters drove forward and was stopped at the police checkpoint opposite he first, Asked for license, showed, waved on. Drove forward and my phone rang. Pulled over safely on the side and wife asked me to buy her a grocery item. Cursed, drove forward took first U Turn and back to the shopping centre. Departed the shopping centre, stopped at first police checkpoint and asked by the same policeman for license. Showed, waved on. Made U-turn to right drove forward and saw the same policeman cross over into my carriageway and start checking the line. Asked for drivers license by the same policeman, showed and waved on. Four checks in an elapsed time of under 12 minutes. good 'ere innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, PETERTHEEATER said: I'm on my third 5 year Thai license. Last year turned out of a Hua Hin shopping centre onto the main road was stopped at police checkpoint and asked for license, Showed and waved on. Made a U turn after 50 meters drove forward and was stopped at the police checkpoint opposite he first, Asked for license, showed, waved on. Drove forward and my phone rang. Pulled over safely on the side and wife asked me to buy her a grocery item. Cursed, drove forward took first U Turn and back to the shopping centre. Departed the shopping centre, stopped at first police checkpoint and asked by the same policeman for license. Showed, waved on. Made U-turn to right drove forward and saw the same policeman cross over into my carriageway and start checking the line. Asked for drivers license by the same policeman, showed and waved on. Four checks in an elapsed time of under 12 minutes. good 'ere innit? Because we all look the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, PETERTHEEATER said: I'm on my third 5 year Thai license. Last year turned out of a Hua Hin shopping centre onto the main road was stopped at police checkpoint and asked for license, Showed and waved on. Made a U turn after 50 meters drove forward and was stopped at the police checkpoint opposite he first, Asked for license, showed, waved on. Drove forward and my phone rang. Pulled over safely on the side and wife asked me to buy her a grocery item. Cursed, drove forward took first U Turn and back to the shopping centre. Departed the shopping centre, stopped at first police checkpoint and asked by the same policeman for license. Showed, waved on. Made U-turn to right drove forward and saw the same policeman cross over into my carriageway and start checking the line. Asked for drivers license by the same policeman, showed and waved on. Four checks in an elapsed time of under 12 minutes. good 'ere innit? Perhaps they were wearing coooool shades they bought in BigC and could see sod all.....? ????. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, HLover said: Because we all look the same. Not in my case.......???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTC Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 16 hours ago, worgeordie said: Why not get a Thai drivers license ?,nobody is targeting Farangs. regards worgeordie Indeed. Been here for 10 years? Might as well get the Thai license. You can use it for all sorts of things .... ID at hotels, airports etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Henryford said: You live in Thailand for 10 years and don't have a Thai licence duh !!!!! Since Thailand never ratified the current treaty re IDPs, only the one from the 1940s, your IDP is only valid for the first 3 months you are in Thailand, regardless of the expiry date printed on it. Therefore, anyone driving without a Thai licence for 10 years has been driving illegally for 9 years 9 months. Some insurance companies are on to this (it was an insurance company that pointed it out to me) and they can legally get out of paying out claims, if you don't have a Thai licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, Arkady said: Since Thailand never ratified the current treaty re IDPs, only the one from the 1940s, your IDP is only valid for the first 3 months you are in Thailand, regardless of the expiry date printed on it. Therefore, anyone driving without a Thai licence for 10 years has been driving illegally for 9 years 9 months. Some insurance companies are on to this (it was an insurance company that pointed it out to me) and they can legally get out of paying out claims, if you don't have a Thai licence. In concur. i posted this info a few days ago in another thread, so was not going to bother again. Yup, the police don’t give a damn, they just want to see something vaguely resembling a license, but an insurance company will compare your entry stamps against your license should you have a bump. Not only that, but why wouldn’t you get a a license? why wouldn’t you register the vehicle in your name? - It wouldn’t rub in the UK, and you would be featured on some reality TV police, pictured as some dirty immigrant who can’t tow the line. I dont really see that it gives me any advantage, but I have been pulled every time I ride through Hua Hin, a roadblock outside the police station, “oh, five year license, no problem - carry on” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, legend49 said: Today I was stopped by BIB in CNX asked for licence and TM 30, lol. Strange since tourists will not have a TM30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, Arkady said: Since Thailand never ratified the current treaty re IDPs, only the one from the 1940s, your IDP is only valid for the first 3 months you are in Thailand, regardless of the expiry date printed on it. Therefore, anyone driving without a Thai licence for 10 years has been driving illegally for 9 years 9 months. There is no time limit for which an 1949 IDP (in conjunction with his home country license) can be used (except its expiry date), the maximum validity is 1 year, so it can be used for up to a year. He didn't say he stays in Thailand permanently since 10 years, just that he has 10 years driving experience here, so maybe he got a new one when he was back home every year, in this case he did everything legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 If you are not on a Tourist Visa or visa on arrival the fine for driving without a Thai drivers licence is now 500 Bht. It is being enforced now. Go get one they are very cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesinnz Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 17 hours ago, worgeordie said: Why not get a Thai drivers license ?,nobody is targeting Farangs. regards worgeordie On a motorcycle I ALWAYS get stopped.. guaranteed.. once I was stopped 3 times in about 30 kms, on the third time I talked to one of the more senior officers, and the next two checkpoints, in about the next 30 km, I went through which has never happened to me before (did he radio ahead?).. I just use an International license, and am only in Thailand for a few months every year... quite frankly I am <deleted> off with Thailand, and yes, I now spend as little time as I can there, and only go because of friends I have made over the years... I was going to buy a bigger bike, nothing outrageous but not now...I hope their economy sinks.. they deserve it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien365 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 There's a lot more checkpoints on the main roads in my area but as there are very few westerners its all Thais getting pulled over. On motorbikes, they will check firstly for helmets, then license. In cars I don't really know as I am always waved straight through. They only seem to stop pick up trucks or souped up cars I assume looking for weapons or drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerculler Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Today I got stopped at a police check point at Chom Pra 25ks from Surin. They told me to pull over. They checked my license and passport. Took a photo of every page in my passport and a photo of me. Wanted my address and was I married? He told my mother-in-law that they are checking all farang because a lot have no visa or passport. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papafarang Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I have seen the police In Hua Hin send every motorcycle to the car park of the Catholic Church from my hotel room in the grand hotel I lost count after 60 bikes must of paid a lot of salaries that night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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