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11 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Midnight in Udon Thani except for the one police-owned local dance hall which respects the national 2 AM curfew.

 

I don't ramwong either.

Even in Day and Night and the surrounding area? I drink there until 2am.

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Well from the list of locations you may spend all your time in the bar, because there is no prostitution in Thailand why would you leave. OH sorry forgot the mrs is at home waiting for you

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4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Somebody needs to explain to Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn, that the foreigners he is seeking (mostly westerners, as the Chinese and Indians do not frequent the bars much) are lost forever. Due to a hundred mistakes made over the past 10 years or so. They will never return. Sure, there are a small number of them still coming, and of course, there are some of us ex-pats still living here. But, the army specifically, has been a devastating scourge on the nation, and a blight on the land. If only the Thai people really understood how hapless, incompetent, corrupt, fearful, hateful and useless they are, and the extent to which they are moving the nation backwards, and polluting nearly all government ministries with their racism and xenophobia. 

 

Extending the bar hours is going to do little, to defeat the current state of tourism malaise gripping this nation. This is something the nation has earned, through it's political apathy. 

At the moment we are in a neighbouring country for a few days.

Staying in a very nice comfortable small hotel.

This afternoon we sat at the bar and each had a beer and I bought a packet of cigs. We said we will come down for dinner later can you put everything on tonights bill? Of course they said. A few hours later we went down for dinner, had a bottle of real wine, not over priced 'fruit wine' that is cheap bulk wine with 15% fruit juice, two nice plates of food etc.

At the end we asked for two beers, to drink on the balcony outside the room, because we drank two of the beers we like from the mini-bar, and a pack of cigs for tomorrow.

Total cost for all 1340 baht.

And the minibar drinks are the same price as downstairs. 😆

Just sayin'

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11 hours ago, NanLaew said:

How many times do we have to explain to the know-it-all foreigners that the 134:00 - 17:00 alcohol sales ban is to stop the kids carrying on drinking after lunch and taking the whole afternoon off school.

 

Here's a clue: you can buy cold beer anytime between 11:00 and 14:00. Just need to get your lazy ass outta bed earlier be more motivated.

OK, it's still a ridiculous law. Just don't sell to kids at any time of day! Everybody is required by law to carry ID with their birthdate on it, aren't they? If they don't have it, don't sell to them. Doesn't seem that difficult. It works reasonably well in most other countries.

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3 minutes ago, charmonman said:

OK, it's still a ridiculous law. Just don't sell to kids at any time of day! Everybody is required by law to carry ID with their birthdate on it, aren't they? If they don't have it, don't sell to them. Doesn't seem that difficult. It works reasonably well in most other countries.

Alll the kids have to is like they do in the U.K.is ask an adult to buy the alcohol plus if the kids do try and buy Thai people don’t like confrontation so wouldn’t ask for ID.If a Mom and Pop shop they are happy for the sale.

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I've lived in Thailand and traveled all over and done the party wild nights BUT never seen Indians or Chinese going out to drink so much, they tend to be on tours which are late nights back to the hotel after all day touring then up again and repeat - then fly back.  Even the Russians are in decline, and opting for package tours.

 

Before that I lived in Singapore for many years and saw the same pattern - white collar workers and above, but a few blue collar working who are single and of being of Indian decent would drink with Farangs for a few on a Friday night, then go home - Overwhelming Singaporeans don't drink, mainly just a small majority I observed. 

 

Most Thais in the city of Professional Bangkok don't drink either, it's seems to be frowned upon like tattoos and smoking, if a professional Thai drinks it normally 1 or 2 - nothing to justify these hours of drinking.

 

Mainland Chinese and Indian come for the tours and shop like crazy down Orchard Road in Singapore. 

 

Beer is very expensive, so ironically most farang in Singapore have switched to Vietnam and Cambodia and tend to avoid Thailand because of the inflated Bhat..

 

Thailand has become a country you unfortunately visit ONLY once and never again.  To many I speak back in my home country and around Europe, not like my parents I remember who go to the Canary Islands religiously every year.

 

I was flying back from Copenhagen recently during what is holiday season for most of Western Europe and Scandinavia and the airport (Kastrup) was ram packed ... When I got to back to BKK - there was literally 50 people + to face the typical animosity of immigration, for she was not smiling and after stamping my passport literally threw it at me - charming I thought..

 

I think the Bangkok post also put the final nail in for me, the TM30.. TMxx this and that in the name of safety and security - Rubbish, Singapore security far outstrips Thailand in every way, and one of the main reason is the border is not secure because corruption and Thailand itself has made the Country unsafe and insecure... with erroneous rules dangerously laws if you make a genuine mistake which I won't go into here with examples to prevent being banned...

 

Me and my Thai wife are up sticks as Thailand for us offers nothing - and now we have a child we don't want him to go through an expensive school which regionally are quite low rated, poor standard and dodgy, with corruption for funds in relation to where we are going very quality schooling.

 

Not one Thai professional person I have done business with in the major cities was educated in Thailand, I know because I asked them... and they speak University English...

 

I'm just glad I have been wise and not wasted my personal wealth on purchasing land, house or a bar I would never own - so many horror stories, which goes back to my earlier point word of mouth and a bad experiences with a a local national has cost them everything - anyways these are my experiences and observations for working in Central Bangkok and travelling...

 

Living on a farm up North in Udon Thani and the like - Best wishes to those folks, and I am aware the TM30 petition is from Issan province so some disdain must exist with how things are happening for retiree folks.

 

I hope no one is offended by my comment and good night.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Alll the kids have to is like they do in the U.K.is ask an adult to buy the alcohol plus if the kids do try and buy Thai people don’t like confrontation so wouldn’t ask for ID.If a Mom and Pop shop they are happy for the sale.

So here all the kids have to do is buy it in the morning. As for avoiding confrontation, they don't seem to have any problem telling adults they can't buy during the no-alcohol hours, so why would they have a problem telling kids they can't buy without ID?

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Outside big cities/towns the bars will close when there is no more customers, like they always have.

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Stupid new rules that idiot coup PM brought in, that indeed need to be scrapped. Including the midday ban that historically unpopular, but somehow endures.

How about ending the idiotic and pointless no buying booze times? As it is I cannot get a glass of wine in the local pizza restaurant in the afternoon, must baffle some tourists who bought the lie that Thailand is 'laid back' In some places 7/11 does not even stock drinks as too near a School, but it's illegal to sell to kids anyway. People who live near pubs don't want them open until 4am, they go from one extreme to the other.

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Majority of alcohol related accidents are not farang tourists, but locals on motor bikes.

"if closing is extended to 4 am, tourists will spend 25 per cent more on eating and drinking"
And probably increase drunk driving accidents/deaths by a similar amount, as there is near zero enforcement of drunk driving laws in the wee hours. 
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Many bars ignore the no smoking laws. Seen many times patrons at a table with no smoking sign posted next to them, and ignored by patrons and bar staff.

Allow tourists to smoke will add a few more%. 

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Many people come to Thailand to party! That often takes it past arbitrary 2am closure. You can head to bed at midnight, let the partying continue without you. No problem.

Who really needs to drink between  2 am and 4 am ? Midnight and one for the road is ok if the road is walked but even in the '60s when I was a teen I needed home after midnight ,is there anyone on TV who would like a beer at 4am ?

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14 hours ago, SammyT said:

Perhaps they could bring Chiang Mai into the fold and stop enforcing midnight closing. Extend it out til 2am to be in line with the rest of Thailand. 

but, who will take care of their grandkids, if they are working till 4am?

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10 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

Drunks impact everybody when they get behind the wheel. Any moron from another country who comes over here thinking they can break the law because it's Thailand should be deported for life for DUI and if they hurt or kill someone should face attempted murder/murder charges. There has been enough information and tragic strories world wide to justify this and especially here. I saw the other day that they give a medical prior to issuance of OA visa with drug addiction flagged as a possible reason for refusal. I'd like to see liver enzymes function tests included in this medical which can show alcohol abuse. There is no difference between alcohilism and drug addiction except that alcoholism causes way more damage.

Tourists coming here for fun are using public transportation. Partying until 4am and stumbling into a taxi to go back to their room is hardly a major problem. I have lived here for 9 years and never driven a vehicle, drunk or sober. The majority of people are perfectly capable of managing their fun without harming others. I agree that those who break the law and endanger others should be punished accordingly, of course.

 

Adding to your list, I would include an anal retentive, pedantic view of the world test.

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I can't be the only one who remembers the times when bars were open all night...

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