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Landlord won't file TM30, may compromise my visa

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I'm on a non-immigrant education visa and expect to get it extended soon, but my visa representation informed me of the TM30 requirement to get an extension.

 

I contacted my landlord and they do not want to file one for me in order to avoid paying their taxes. I have proof of this in writing, so I guess that gives me some leverage, though I prefer not to go down that route.

 

My visa representation informed me that if I don't have a TM30 filed for me when I go to extend my visa, they will take my passport and give me 30 days to get a TM30 filed. My visa representation is not sure what will happen after that, as it has "never happened before". I assume that after 30 days and still no filing, I will be escorted out of the country?

 

As far as I can see, my only options now (assuming I want to take the path of least resistance) are to negotiate with my landlord. Either they file a TM30 for me and we call it a day, or they allow me to cut my rental contract early so I can move to another condo that will file one for me, while also giving me my full security deposit back, since it'd be their fault I'm leaving early.

 

Has anyone been in a situation like this? Can someone recommend a good course of action for me? I'd like to take the path of least resistance and leave all extreme scenarios as a last resort.

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Just write one up yourself and take your rental contract as back up

 

Its legal doesn't have to be the landlord who in many case's is unreachable when needed

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4 minutes ago, madmen said:

Just write one up yourself and take your rental contract as back up

 

Just now, spiekerjozef said:

You can do the tm30 yourself

I asked my visa representation this and they specifically told me that it must be done by the landlord...can you please refer me to where I can file this myself?

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I asked my visa representation this and they specifically told me that it must be done by the landlord...can you please refer me to where I can file this myself?

I believe you file under the term possessor as a tenant. You just post it inTo your immigration office or get the app and do it online

 

Hopefully someone will be along to

Correct me if I got this wrong

 

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, madmen said:

I believe you file under the term possessor as a tenant. You just post it inTo your immigration office or get the app and do it online

 

Hopefully someone will be along to

Correct me if I got this wrong

 

 

 

 

 

The online thing doesn't really work, I got rejected for no apparent reason.

He should go to the immigration with his rental contract and try to file the TM30 there, if they refuse it, then he could check-in in some hotel and ask for the TM30 from that hotel and use it for his paperwork.

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1 minute ago, JohnnyBKK said:

The online thing doesn't really work, I got rejected for no apparent reason.

He should go to the immigration with his rental contract and try to file the TM30 there, if they refuse it, then he could check-in in some hotel and ask for the TM30 from that hotel and use it for his paperwork.

But then I go out of pocket unnecessarily. Why should I have to pay a few thousand baht extra when I am doing everything according to the law? It's the landlord that should go out of pocket, if anything. 

 

Moreover, I don't think a couple night stay at a hotel will suffice for a one year visa...what about the remaining 363 days? I'm sure immigration will ask the same question.

 

I appreciate the solution, but not sure it will work for me, to be honest.

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1 minute ago, Boy Wonder said:

But then I go out of pocket unnecessarily. Why should I have to pay a few thousand baht extra when I am doing everything according to the law? It's the landlord that should go out of pocket, if anything. 

 

Moreover, I don't think a couple night stay at a hotel will suffice for a one year visa...what about the remaining 363 days? I'm sure immigration will ask the same question.

 

I appreciate the solution, but not sure it will work for me, to be honest.

That's life, if I was your landlord I would also not file the TM30, it's too annoying. Landlords are supposed to be wealthy, they don't like to deal with <deleted> paperwork like this.

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4 minutes ago, Boy Wonder said:

But then I go out of pocket unnecessarily. Why should I have to pay a few thousand baht extra when I am doing everything according to the law? It's the landlord that should go out of pocket, if anything. 

 

Moreover, I don't think a couple night stay at a hotel will suffice for a one year visa...what about the remaining 363 days? I'm sure immigration will ask the same question.

 

I appreciate the solution, but not sure it will work for me, to be honest.

Given your landlord issues - stay a night at reputable hotel that will report you (at Agoda you can find them on sale from 650 baht per night up - consider it a weekend vacation), or move to a new place that would file for you (and probably let go of your deposit), or let your visa expire and spend even more on starting from scratch.

 

Of course you could try the "self-report" as others suggested, but with no documents from landlord that may be a challenge.

 

Yes, it should not be your thing to do, but... life ain't fair. Get used to it.

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2 minutes ago, JohnnyBKK said:

That's life, if I was your landlord I would also not file the TM30, it's too annoying. Landlords are supposed to be wealthy, they don't like to deal with <deleted> paperwork like this.

I hear you. But this isn't a case of laziness or lack of communication. The landlord and I have a direct line of communication and the landlord is very responsive. Also, they have an agent, which they never even use because they just communicate with me directly.

 

It's just a case of wanting to avoid taxes, which apparently isn't even an issue according to another comment above.

 

I really don't care for the reasons, it's none of my business and I prefer to keep my mouth shut. I just don't want to lose my visa because of their negligence.

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17 minutes ago, JohnnyBKK said:

The online thing doesn't really work, I got rejected for no apparent reason.

He should go to the immigration with his rental contract and try to file the TM30 there, if they refuse it, then he could check-in in some hotel and ask for the TM30 from that hotel and use it for his paperwork.

 

7 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Given your landlord issues - stay a night at reputable hotel that will report you (at Agoda you can find them on sale from 650 baht per night up - consider it a weekend vacation), or move to a new place that would file for you (and probably let go of your deposit), or let your visa expire and spend even more on starting from scratch.

 

Of course you could try the "self-report" as others suggested, but with no documents from landlord that may be a challenge.

 

Yes, it should not be your thing to do, but... life ain't fair. Get used to it.

 

6 minutes ago, Buuge said:

Book a night in a cheap hotel, then you're registered

The general consensus seems to be to book a hotel. I'll give it a shot, I suppose. I just hope they don't put "from" and "to" dates on it, or I'll have some questions to answer when I go to immigration. 

 

Thanks, all. Will still be on the lookout for some alternatives, though.

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2 minutes ago, Boy Wonder said:

I really don't care for the reasons, it's none of my business and I prefer to keep my mouth shut. I just don't want to lose my visa because of their negligence.

It's as much your negligence as it is his.

The owner, tenant or possessor can file, so it's not purely his responsibility as you'll find out when Immigration fine you.

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1 minute ago, Boy Wonder said:

The general consensus seems to be to book a hotel. I'll give it a shot, I suppose. I just hope they don't put "from" and "to" dates on it, or I'll have some questions to answer when I go to immigration. 

They do put 'from' and 'to' dates on.

 

All you need are a few document copies and post it.

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