snoop1130 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Prayut calls on everybody to join the fight against plastic By THE NATION Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha on August 20 called on all Thais to help the government achieve its goal of keeping the seas clean of plastic after eight-month-old rescued dugong Mariam died after having consumed eight pieces of plastic. Referring to another dugong pup, Yameel, under the care of authorities, Prayut said: “[Yameel] must not die, cannot die”, as he urged officials and volunteers to do their best to protect it. “I regret not having visited Mariam as I heard her condition [after being washed ashore in late April] was improving, but then she fell sick,” he said. “It’s a real pity that Mariam’s stomach was found filled with plastic, which is the kind of garbage that takes 450 years to disintegrate.” The premier spoke when Natural Resources Minister Warawuth Silpa-archa and director-general of the Department of Marine and Coastal Resources Jatuporn Burutpat led officials to Government House to meet Prayut and provide him with information about the upcoming “reduce, refrain and stop the use of plastic to protect marine life” campaign. A team comprising members of the National Marine Resource Committee is also preparing a proposal for the Cabinet’s consideration about reducing the dugong death rate by 20 to 45 per cent and boosting its population by at least 50 per cent in the next decade. Currently, there are only 250 dugongs surviving in Thailand. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30375056 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-08-20 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha on August 20 called on all Thais to help the government achieve its goal of keeping the seas clean of plastic after eight-month-old rescued dugong Mariam died after having consumed eight pieces of plastic. The only thing I would have been in favour of our illustrious leader using Article 44 for previously, would have been to ban plastic bags at a stroke. Now it will be an uphill struggle. Not even sure if it might succeed, as the petro-chemical industry that wants to keep plastic is very powerful, not giving a sh!t about pollution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Serious problem this is becoming now and will require some brave hardcore initiatives like compelling manufacturers to seek alternative packaging as just about everything you buy nowadays is wrapped or encased in some sort of plastic .. Fast food containers made of styrene are another problem that need sorting out .. But as learned contributor Bluesofa has alluded to the petrochemical industry stand to lose a lot if alternatives to plastics are sought .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Justgrazing said: Serious problem this is becoming now and will require some brave hardcore initiatives like compelling manufacturers to seek alternative packaging as just about everything you buy nowadays is wrapped or encased in some sort of plastic .. Fast food containers made of styrene are another problem that need sorting out .. But as learned contributor Bluesofa has alluded to the petrochemical industry stand to lose a lot if alternatives to plastics are sought .. Going off on a slight sidetrack: I watched UK TV series recently about plastic (BBC - 'War On Plastic with Hugh and Anita'). MacDonalds is apparently the largest toy distributor worldwide. This is due to to seemingly endless plastic toys they give free with things like Happy Meals. The programme makers had no luck in speaking to someone from MacDonalds, or even soliciting a response. Most of these toy are played with for a few minutes, then thrown in the bin, to go into landfill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, bluesofa said: Going off on a slight sidetrack: I watched UK TV series recently about plastic (BBC - 'War On Plastic with Hugh and Anita'). MacDonalds is apparently the largest toy distributor worldwide. This is due to to seemingly endless plastic toys they give free with things like Happy Meals. The programme makers had no luck in speaking to someone from MacDonalds, or even soliciting a response. Most of these toy are played with for a few minutes, then thrown in the bin, to go into landfill. Yea for sure none of the fast food chains wish to go on the record about what they are actually doing to reduce plastic and styrene use concentrating quite often on a counter narrative to portray thereselves in a good light .. Major Supermarkets are as bad if not worse and surprise surprise take a similar line to McD's in avoiding talking about it .. There is a huge market for water proof paper based ( lacquered ) packagings that degrade quickly and are easily recycled a Brit' company is working on such now but it's all hush hush while testing and evaluation is carried out .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Wednesdays at Kad Farang supermarket in Chiang Mai does not use plastic bags on Wednesdays and you either bring your own bags or use the extra packing boxes. It works really well, and saves me 10 or 12 plastic bags. Prayut is looking at this from the wrong angle. Ban manufacture, import and use of all plastic bags. Don't look to the public to solve it...it's too late by then. He is spineless and just paying lip service to the problem. Be a leader Prayut. You're not so strong with Article 44 taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 'Mr Prayuth' (as it is not 100% clear whether your are the legitimate PM, ...or rather not, after you failed to take the complete Constitutional oath in the presence of H.M. the King...): have a law imposing the use of 'olive drab' colour in all single use plastics in Thailand. I expect that the resentment of the general Thai population towards your military dictatorship will express itself quite clearly in rejecting the use of those army-uniform-coloured plastics. A big victory for the environmant this would be! ...And maybe even the little kids would start disliking that colour on people's clothes on the streets, which would be a victory for 'democracy'. Oops, I said too much, shot myself in the foot, now for sure you won't be interested... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Justgrazing said: Yea for sure none of the fast food chains wish to go on the record about what they are actually doing to reduce plastic and styrene use concentrating quite often on a counter narrative to portray thereselves in a good light .. Major Supermarkets are as bad if not worse and surprise surprise take a similar line to McD's in avoiding talking about it .. There is a huge market for water proof paper based ( lacquered ) packagings that degrade quickly and are easily recycled a Brit' company is working on such now but it's all hush hush while testing and evaluation is carried out .. Water proof paper, or any paper generally isn't all that environmentally friendly, the fibre in paper has been thru' many chemical processes and what is left is virtually indestructible, sure it breaks down back into into fibre - but how much indestructible fibre can the environment handle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 As the PM waves a plastic model of dugong to make his point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felt 35 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3-5 Baht for each bag a customer want would be a good start and make people think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, bluesofa said: Going off on a slight sidetrack: I watched UK TV series recently about plastic (BBC - 'War On Plastic with Hugh and Anita'). MacDonalds is apparently the largest toy distributor worldwide. This is due to to seemingly endless plastic toys they give free with things like Happy Meals. The programme makers had no luck in speaking to someone from MacDonalds, or even soliciting a response. Most of these toy are played with for a few minutes, then thrown in the bin, to go into landfill. Coles in Australia is worst they give away all sort of I items what they sell but in miniature form what they call mini shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Talking of garbage think it will take 450 years to get rid of him to???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, bluesofa said: Going off on a slight sidetrack: I watched UK TV series recently about plastic (BBC - 'War On Plastic with Hugh and Anita'). MacDonalds is apparently the largest toy distributor worldwide. This is due to to seemingly endless plastic toys they give free with things like Happy Meals. The programme makers had no luck in speaking to someone from MacDonalds, or even soliciting a response. Most of these toy are played with for a few minutes, then thrown in the bin, to go into landfill. They have already solved that here the toy is extra 49bt I think from my disgruntled 5 year old???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Start with a 10 baht charge per bag at 7-11, with funds distributed (yeah, right!) to the dugong institute and other worthy causes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 9 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Prayut calls on everybody to join the fight against plastic I looked up "plastic" in the urban dictionary, and when I saw their definition, I thought, he has a valid point ! TOP DEFINITION plastic people People too self absorbed in Money, Cars, Jewels, and of their own-self. They will also do anything to get ahead in life including using you, with a smile on their faces to obtain the goals of wealth and or personal status. The users in life, the takers these are the “Plastic People”… Plastic people; "Watanabe Elitist"… simple put, “Fake as plastic”… ???????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 5 hours ago, White Christmas13 said: Coles in Australia is worst they give away all sort of I items what they sell but in miniature form what they call mini shop That was another documentary I watched: 'War On Waste' on ABC two years ago. Coles was singled out for their high level of food and plastic wastage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Is he holding a new plastic boob implant ? Or is an implant to have bigger balls maybe ? ... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Oh dear leader, what book should we read to help with this task? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 The plastic problem is pretty much all my fault and I can blame no body else because I'm the one who took the plastic out of the all those shops nodody made me do it and I could have refused but I didn't.No amount blaming others will take away my contribution to the plastic problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeVonderBearz Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Eyes of the international media are on Thailand reporting about this poor sea animal. PM is just trying to save face here, he couldn't give two ducks in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Prayut calls on everybody to join the fight against plastic If he is so concerned about plastic why doesn't he tell his forces to put a stop to the overuse of those heavy duty plastic banners they so so like to gather around and point at. There are plastic banner shops all over Thailand churning out these banners night and day for all sorts of end users. They must eventually end up in the plastic pollution chain somewhere. I know a dugong would have a bit of trouble swallowing one but that's not the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonhia Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 At least the self elected dictator speaks some sense. However, the mainland also suffers too. For a place to be claimed as paradise is beyond reasoning. Go visit the beaches near Rayong, disgusting... I'm surprised Thai are not pointing the finger at foreigners, yet again, for the pollution, as they did a few months ago. Visit the interior of the island 'Koh Lan', just off Pattaya, and witness for yourself the amount of litter dumped there...or inland not far from Bangsaray near Jomtien. disgraceful. Why are there so few public bins? Or recycle bins at major public areas or at supermarkets and stores etc... for the public to utilise for free? Not rocket science! Or is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonhia Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 At least the self elected dictator speaks some sense. However, the mainland also suffers too. For a place to be claimed as paradise is beyond reasoning. Go visit the beaches near Rayong, disgusting... I'm surprised Thai are not pointing the finger at foreigners, yet again, for the pollution, as they did a few months ago. Visit the interior of the island 'Koh Lan', just off Pattaya, and witness for yourself the amount of litter dumped there...or inland not far from Bangsaray near Jomtien. disgraceful. Why are there so few public bins? Or recycle bins at major public areas or at supermarkets and stores etc... for the public to utilise for free? Not rocket science! Or is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Sonhia said: At least the self elected dictator speaks some sense. However, the mainland also suffers too. For a place to be claimed as paradise is beyond reasoning. Go visit the beaches near Rayong, disgusting... I'm surprised Thai are not pointing the finger at foreigners, yet again, for the pollution, as they did a few months ago. Visit the interior of the island 'Koh Lan', just off Pattaya, and witness for yourself the amount of litter dumped there...or inland not far from Bangsaray near Jomtien. disgraceful. Why are there so few public bins? Or recycle bins at major public areas or at supermarkets and stores etc... for the public to utilise for free? Not rocket science! Or is it? Of course it's rocket science - isn't that the more important project for the RTAF at the moment. Forget looking after what we have on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 9 hours ago, emptypockets said: As the PM waves a plastic model of dugong to make his point. Is that what it is I thought it was something found in my ex wifes bedroom drawer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 One of the major obstacles to reform is the proliferation of "Plastic leaders". They never seem to go away and clog the waterways of improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 13 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Prayut calls on everybody to join the fight against plastic Meanwhile, back at the noodle shop, nobody calls on Prayut to join the fight against corruption! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 It's not a "fight".... It involves raising awareness and changing behaviors That is the big struggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantom Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Mrs Fantom and I just take our own carrier bags to supermarkets and markets. Always refuse any plastic bags offered. Absolutely no problem whatsoever. On the other hand we continue to be amazed at the number of farangs who never consider this approach and happily depart with about 5 dugongs worth of plastic bags in their trollies. Perhaps, if members on TV were to take a lead in refusing plastic bags instead of expecting someone else to do it for them we could make a significant impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Then get serious Mr. PM. Start enforcing littering laws and make them more severe. Severely penalize anyone caught dumping. Enforce pay for plastic bags. Review organisations like Big C, 711 for their obscene plastic practices. Ban plastic use in one use items. Ban plastic straws. Get serious - dont just have another 1 week rhetoric then onto the next BIG thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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