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53 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

This is just the same old stuff over and over again, with the same arguments regurgitated.  The media just keep stirring the pot.

 

According to the Daily Mail (Ha!Ha!) his trip to Berlin was a triumph!  After his meeting today with Macron, I wonder what the headline will be tomorrow.  It's boring beyond belief!

 

1 hour ago, AlexRich said:

 

If the UK was to create two nations, split by remain and leave voting areas, the remain economic area would be the powerhouse ... and the leaver area would be an economic wasteland, full of numpties, wastrels and old age pensioners. 

 

The sad truth is that leaver areas are packed full of life's losers.

 

 

What a horrible thing to say.

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13 hours ago, mommysboy said:

What the poster was saying is that 12% of all UK trade is exports, ie, 88% is generated within the country.  Of that 12%, 48% is with the EU.  It's still a big deal but needs to be seen in context.

 

When posting, people tend to assume that all that trade with the EU will disappear.  In fact it is more likely to be only somewhat or marginally effected.  Since the referendum the pound has undergone a significant devaluation, such that the relatively small tariffs imposed by the EU would be more than offset.  However, the general disruption such as border checks would undoubtedly dent trade.

How much of that inter UK trade is possible with thanks to EU components, the UK cannot easily find alternatives ?

How many UK companies will NOT survice a loss of exports as now to the EU ? Especially many in the agriculture + food business + in the complex "make" industry ( cars, airplane components etc ) ?

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18 hours ago, smedly said:

it is about a dangerous power hungry kabal in Brussels that the UK people have rejected, we don't want any part of it

Which you mean ?

The EU Councill, existing of the leaders of government of all EU member states, inclusive the British ?

Or the EU Commission, with a commissioner ( kind of minister) from each EU member state, inclusive the UK

OR.. the EU parliament, inclusive 73 members from the UK ?

 

The rest... only have to follow orders, mostly from the EU council.

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1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

How much of that inter UK trade is possible with thanks to EU components, the UK cannot easily find alternatives ?

How many UK companies will NOT survice a loss of exports as now to the EU ? Especially many in the agriculture + food business + in the complex "make" industry ( cars, airplane components etc ) ?

Unknowable. Equally we can't quantify the upside and there will be one, in the shape of opportunities for home grown, and domestic production.

 

I don't buy that components will suddenly become unobtainable. UK will be able to buy from EU, just as other countries do.  

 

Overall, there will be a downturn in the short term.

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2 hours ago, cleopatra2 said:

It is for the reason the Uk say it will not impose tariffs and still seeking FTA that make me believe the UK will reach a deal with the EU.

 

If the UK does not impose tariffs then it renders a FTA irrelevant as it would put countries who conclude a FTA with the UK at a disadvantage to those who do not have a FTA.

Reason why Canada is holding off concluding the roll over agreement.

 

Imo Boris Johnson fallback is to revert back to the original plan of the backstop only including NI and excluding the rest of UK.

I think he is going to throw the DUP under a bus and let Northern Ireland remain in the customs union.

In which case Scotland, which voted to remain, will be asking why not us too?

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8 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

I think he is going to throw the DUP under a bus and let Northern Ireland remain in the customs union.

In which case Scotland, which voted to remain, will be asking why not us too?

 

 

Scotland didn't vote to remain - they are still part of the United Kingdom.

 

The Scots may have voted in favour of remaining but they are not yet independent of the UK.

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