Thais told to mind that trash, as plastic claims another animal

[mikebell]

8 hours ago, bluesofa said:

throw their rubbish into a bin,

There aren't any except outside 7-11s.

[Yinn]

1 hour ago, bluesofa said:

I'm pleased that you can see which are the problem areas. Can you bring your beach team team to Issan and clean the whole area up for us?

Are there any other areas you think would benefit from your clean-up team, or is it only Issan that's bad?

Sorry, I am very busy. You have to clean up your area yourself. 

 

The north, and central is also bad, but I think Isssan have the most rubbish. Tourism area like pattaya also terrible.

 

The south people work together, not just complain, we do! 

Look at #51 in thred below. 

Is possible if take care. Is where I live. Have the photo. 

Everyone help together.

 

 

 

[Yinn]

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

Nobody consider the truly amazing amount of toxic <deleted> produced when you burn plastics. So you clean the area but poison the atmosphere with one big burn.

Let me know when and where  the next  big burn is so I can stay well away.

So you want to drive the rubbish to the dump to burn it? That would be more pollution. Fuel for the truck.

 

We don’t do it near people. 

[overherebc]

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

So you want to drive the rubbish to the dump to burn it? That would be more pollution. Fuel for the truck.

 

We don’t do it near people. 

Ah! I understand now. You do outside the environment.

[bluesofa]

2 hours ago, mikebell said:

10 hours ago, bluesofa said:

throw their rubbish into a bin,

There aren't any except outside 7-11s.

Although to be fair, so far I haven't found anyone who tried to charge me for putting rubbish in the bin outside their house.

[dcnx]

9 hours ago, Yinn said:

You watch thai TV?

No, I have good taste in TV.

[Yinn]

2 hours ago, overherebc said:

Ah! I understand now. You do outside the environment.

Where your rubbish go?

[Yinn]

1 hour ago, dcnx said:

No, I have good taste in TV.

I think you can not understand it right?

[overherebc]

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

Where your rubbish go?

In the bin at the end of the street to be collected by the local authorities as it should be.

Quite a lot of food waste etc goes in the compost heap with grass cuttings, garden trimmings and the daily dog offerings to produce really nice soil that keeps the garden growing well. As 'most' people know plants and trees produce O2 which I reckon is a bit better than many cyanide compounds produced when stupid people burn plastic.

Edit.

To help your english. The question is

 

Where does your rubbish go?

????

[gunderhill]

13 hours ago, Yinn said:

You watch thai TV? Maybe you can not speak Thai?

 

 

 

https://voicetv.co.th/watch/qhUlYzuXr

 

 

your  local  villagers  could  not care  one  jot ( small  amount)    about this and will continue to throw their  rubbish straight on the ground , this includes all their children  who'm I regularly  see do this, straight off the back of the motorcycle, i live in a rural setting.

[gunderhill]

9 hours ago, Yinn said:

When you go the immigration office next time ask them about that

Ask  them about the farangs  offering help after the Tsunami who the govt said  must get work permits  also.

[Chazar]

9 hours ago, Yinn said:

So your answer is “no” right?

If  your  own people are  too  dirty/lazy to   keep their own country clean, who am i to interfere, I keep your country clean by not throwing my  rubbish on the ground.

[Chazar]

5 hours ago, Yinn said:

So you want to drive the rubbish to the dump to burn it? That would be more pollution. Fuel for the truck.

 

We don’t do it near people. 

Its  clear from answers  like this you do  not  fully  understand the problem of "burning it away from people" do you think that burnt air stays  right where you lit the fire?

[Twigtom]

I did say I was trying to offer some constructive criticism, but you just just see it as complaining. The whole point of this forum to to exchange views and ideas.
 
The whole point is to get more people to understand what is happening with the plastic problem, and why.
If we can get people to stop - or reduce - the rubbish they throw away, that is what we need.
 
I'm glad you're helping collect rubbish from the beach.
 
Last year I read an article about someone in Bangkok trying to encourage the use of biodegradable plastic bags. I was keen to find out how to publicise it, but the person didn't reply, although they said they would.
 
I have spatial awareness. There's no beach in Udon Thani where I live. I do pick up litter that other people throw away, even though a tessaban staff member told I couldn't do that as it was a job for Thais only and I wasn't allowed to do that as otherwise they wouldn't have a job - honestly!
 

Perhaps the same situation in Ikea where customers are asked to tidy their tables after eating. I watched a respectable local family leave a load of uneaten food and similar rubbish piled on their table upon leaving. The staff were not pleased. Perhaps the family thought it beneath their status to help. The same in fast food establishments, the established culture here that others will clean up, will sadly continue with marine and wildlife issues


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[Yinn]

13 hours ago, Chazar said:

Its  clear from answers  like this you do  not  fully  understand the problem of "burning it away from people" do you think that burnt air stays  right where you lit the fire?

You do not fully understand how we burn it. A big, quick fire. Kilometer from anybody. Up to the wind, sometime go over the ocean.

 

Do you think it better to drive it to the dump so they can burn it?

or just leave it to be washed back into the ocean so the sea animals die?

 

if you have better way, I will do it. I don’t like to burn. I will do your way if it better.

 

we recycle everything we can. 

 

what happen to your rubbish? Please tell me.

[Yinn]

13 hours ago, Chazar said:

If  your  own people are  too  dirty/lazy to   keep their own country clean, who am i to interfere, I keep your country clean by not throwing my  rubbish on the ground.

I not do it for the people.

i do it for the animal.

 

animal do not make this problem. People do it.

 

You don’t want to help. Don’t criticize me because I do it.

 

if everybody think “another person job”, that is the problem.

 

You live Pattaya?

The dirty place with many farang.

Maybe thai think “why should I do it for farang”.

Maybe farang think “If  your  own people are  too  dirty/lazy to   keep their own country clean, who am i to interfere,”

= dirty

[Yinn]

14 hours ago, overherebc said:

In the bin at the end of the street to be collected by the local authorities 

Then what they do with that? 

Burn it?

[Assurancetourix]

On 8/22/2019 at 10:16 AM, Yinn said:

No the answer is to collect rubbish. Complain about it doesn’t help.

It's not the good answer .

 

The only good solution is to throw nothing on the ground and wait .... unfortunately too long in Thailand, to find a trash to put our waste.
If you stop on a service area at the edge of a busy road you will see garbage cans, several bins at the foot of 7/11, but only at this place; elsewhere on the service area they are to absent subscribers.
The same way in town or in villages, the only way to get rid of your own waste is to find the trash of a house or a building.
There are never garbage cans in the public spaces of Thailand, no more public toilets by the way;
you have to find a Wat or a gas station if you want to urinate or more.

 

Then there will remain the problem of emptying these bins by the public services of the city;
At the top of Phupalek National Park in Sakon Nakhon Province, not far from Song Dao, there were large yellow and blue garbage cans.
They have disappeared;
in any case they were not used much, they were very quickly full and never empty, the detritus overflowed and the visitors began to throw beside garbage cans.
It would be necessary for the visitors of any place to become aware that if there are no garbage cans, and well one keeps with oneself, in his vehicle, the waste that one will throw at home.
But it's so much easier to mess with others.

[overherebc]

10 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Then what they do with that? 

Burn it?

Your country, your authorities. Go ask them.

FYI.

I spent some time working on the boilers and furnaces at a power station in Edmonton London. They have special temperature furnaces that can handle a lot of waste/rubbish collected from the London area. Exhaust from the furnaces is filtered to remove a very big percentage of dangerous gases/particles etc and the heat produced is used to run turbines and generators that put electricity into the local area and the national grid. 

[johng]

13 minutes ago, overherebc said:

and the heat produced is used to run turbines and generators that put electricity into the local area and the national grid

They built one on a Thai island  but it soon broke down.. now the rubbish just piles up ever higher..it was in the news not long ago, there is also a huge pile of rubbish on Larn island just off of Pattaya..they say there are not enough boats to get the rubbish back to the mainland !!!

I'm still waiting for a list of the official government recycling sites where ( Thai ) people can take their "stuff"  like old Tv's, sofas, fridges,building rubble etc to be disposed of "responsibly"..... its almost as if there are none..maybe @Yinn knows where they are ???

 

 

[Yinn]

36 minutes ago, johng said:

 

I'm still waiting for a list of the official government recycling sites where ( Thai ) people can take their "stuff"  like old Tv's,

Take the old tv to the tv repair shop. They recycle some of the part. 

Some will give you a little money.

same with fridge.

 

36 minutes ago, johng said:

 

sofas, building rubble etc

Must go to “landfill” site. Some is government, some is private. They not accept house rubbish (because it smell and make the gas, not good for landfill). Also no trees etc. 

Nothing that “alive” before.

 

36 minutes ago, johng said:

 

to be disposed of "responsibly"..... its almost as if there are none..maybe @Yinn knows where they are ???

 

 

And we have this one. At some temple, government place, schools.

This one important. Because have chemi a lot. 

 

 

[Thaifriends]

Plastic rice are becoming famous also ????

[overherebc]

@Yinn

 

Google   recycling plants london uk.

You wiil be surprised how many there are and the different types.

[Yinn]

4 minutes ago, overherebc said:

@Yinn

 

Google   recycling plants london uk.

You wiil be surprised how many there are and the different types.

Good. 

You can take it from the other country. We have enough already.

 

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/bangkok/2019/06/19/as-worlds-trash-floods-thailand-activists-call-for-waste-import-ban/

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[bluesofa]

17 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Good. 

You can take it from the other country. We have enough already.

 

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/bangkok/2019/06/19/as-worlds-trash-floods-thailand-activists-call-for-waste-import-ban/

The government here say they're going to ban it next year, but who knows if it will happen:

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailand-to-ban-import-of-plastic-waste-next-year/

 

[overherebc]

24 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Good. 

You can take it from the other country. We have enough already.

 

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/bangkok/2019/06/19/as-worlds-trash-floods-thailand-activists-call-for-waste-import-ban/

The re-cyclings plants in UK are for the use of the general population. Not for industrial poison waste etc. Specialist compnies collect that and process it.

They sort the stuff that you drop off and the materials are used again by industry and local manufacturers in the country.

They don't as you wrongly imagine pack it up and sent it anywhere.

[bluesofa]

8 minutes ago, overherebc said:

The re-cyclings plants in UK are for the use of the general population. Not for industrial poison waste etc. Specialist compnies collect that and process it.

They sort the stuff that you drop off and the materials are used again by industry and local manufacturers in the country.

They don't as you wrongly imagine pack it up and sent it anywhere.

I hope they are doing the job properly.

 

The series I watched in June showed a visit to a few Malaysian areas where British general waste had been dumped and not processed. Some of it was traced back to a couple of local councils, who when confronted with the evidence, admitted they had exported the waste "previously but not any more."

 

If you are able to watch it here, it's called 'War On Plastic with Hugh and Anita' and is at present on BBC iPlayer, three one-hour episodes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0005xgz/war-on-plastic-with-hugh-and-anita-series-1-episode-1

I can't find it on youtube, but it might still be on tpb.

[overherebc]

31 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

I hope they are doing the job properly.

 

The series I watched in June showed a visit to a few Malaysian areas where British general waste had been dumped and not processed. Some of it was traced back to a couple of local councils, who when confronted with the evidence, admitted they had exported the waste "previously but not any more."

 

If you are able to watch it here, it's called 'War On Plastic with Hugh and Anita' and is at present on BBC iPlayer, three one-hour episodes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0005xgz/war-on-plastic-with-hugh-and-anita-series-1-episode-1

I can't find it on youtube, but it might still be on tpb.

True.

I suppose the other way to look at it is that Thailand wanted it and paid for it.

Can't imagine it was just 'dumped' without anyone in Thailand knowing what it was.

That's why I think headlines on it should read.

Thailand to stop importing and buying plastic waste.

Not.

Thailand to stop other countries 'dumping' their plastic waste in Thailand.

[johng]

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