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Nine-minute miss costs CP Bt290-billion project


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43 minutes ago, Paul Henry said:

How can all five competitors all be exactly 9 minutes late.

The five are affiliates of a construction consortium representing Charoen Pokphand Group (CP).

They are not competitors. Likely the project was divided into five segments for bidding purposes; hence the need for five affiliates who would have to submit each segment bid by the deadline. CP would provide overall construction management.

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11 hours ago, Tapster said:

That's 9.5 billion USD!!!

 

If it was worth that much, you'd think they might get it in the day before!

 

????

 

 

10 hours ago, bowerboy said:

None of these people can lie straight in bed at night.

 

Handing in the bid at the last minute is common practice here because no one trusts anyone and they are scared of last minute shenanigans (ie: you hand it in the day before and they look at the bid and tell the preferred provider the price they have to meet).

 

Who knows? Maybe the competitors handed theirs in early and CP were late because they were making some well informed last minute adjustments.

 

 

Wow does that sort of thing go on ?

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2 hours ago, cnx355 said:

Amazing that CP a corporation worth billions can not plan to have the documents delivered before the deadline.

Why do they have to wait. ? Is here a way to find out the content of others submission bids and modify their offer at the last minute ?

Otherwise, 24 hours before would be a safe bet .

Easier to get it there earlier in the day, and just before the deadline hand it in, and get a receipt.

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When Thais agree to meet at a certain time, say 3pm, inside their brains they think that is the time they will leave their own room.... so that's why they are often late.... in my experience.

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12 hours ago, Orac said:

 

Not really. One of the other consortiums bidding for the project involved Sino-Thai (STEC) which, obviously coincidentally, happens to be controlled by one of our new Deputy PMs and leader of key coalition partner BJT party Anutin Charnviralkul. 

oh me smell a big rat

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13 hours ago, Orac said:

 

Not really. One of the other consortiums bidding for the project involved Sino-Thai (STEC) which, obviously coincidentally, happens to be controlled by one of our new Deputy PMs and leader of key coalition partner BJT party Anutin Charnviralkul. 

And they had police escort ????

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13 hours ago, Tapster said:

That's 9.5 billion USD!!!

 

If it was worth that much, you'd think they might get it in the day before!

 

????

 

With so much money at stake (okay, not that much for the CP group....) those CP guys should have been flown in with a helicopter.

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I can hardly believe that I am reading this nonsense. These companies were given time to do the cost estimate and a closing date!!! Only the Thai mentality would leave it to the very closing day and presumably late in the day to bring the tenders in. The people who organised the handing over of the bid documents should be FIRED for incompetence. 

Almost unbelieveable as in my 30 years of bids and tenders in 3 continents of the World I have never known such idiotic behaviour. Amazing Thailand!!

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21 minutes ago, Hotrudester said:

I can hardly believe that I am reading this nonsense. These companies were given time to do the cost estimate and a closing date!!! Only the Thai mentality would leave it to the very closing day and presumably late in the day to bring the tenders in. The people who organised the handing over of the bid documents should be FIRED for incompetence. 

Almost unbelieveable as in my 30 years of bids and tenders in 3 continents of the World I have never known such idiotic behaviour. Amazing Thailand!!

How long have you lived in Thailand to know the "Thai mentality"?

I take offence to you calling it idiotic, You obviously don't know the owner of CP and despite your experience in other places, are ignorant of the way things are done here.

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Thais are never wrong nor at fault.

This time it is traffic (a brand-new problem in the equation) and if CP is locked out, the mind-boggling costs are more than one billion US-Dollars per minute delay - apart from the loose change they spent on the preparation of the tender as well as the package costs of the tender documents ???? 

I am sure somebody is smelling a rat again ........... 

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Even blind Freddy knows this............me thinks typical of the Thai's lack of ability to really plan ahead effectively..........you would think with the big bucks involved they would have camped outside the building the morning of the deadline for submissions............... suck it up guys you missed the deadline for submissions ...........do not pass go do not collect zillions of Baht........ 

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16 hours ago, HeyHeyHey said:

Must be the first project in history of Thailand that isn't awarded to "know-it-all" mighty CP

Hmm, This been Thailand and it's a Bt 290-Billion project ???

They must have been colluding with the one that's going to win !?!?......I can't imagine there's no sort of cheating involved in a Bt 290-Billion project in Thailand !?!?!?

A country where there's already ample cheating in 20 Bt school children meals...

 

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