Trump calls Danish PM's rebuff of Greenland idea 'nasty' as trip cancellation stuns Danes

[Opl]

11 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Is there anybody who would deny calling him insane or just simple mad or being an idiot? 

to a non American, it's just crazy , no other comment 

President outdoes himself in new press conference as he attacks the Danish prime minister, Jewish Democrats and the press

 

[metisdead]

A troll post has been reported and removed. 

[JamesBlond]

1 hour ago, jany123 said:

So... when you said that you based your opinion on looking at the map, you were essentially trying to sell us on bs, as your now tossing in political systems.

 

if you haven't heard anyone from Greenland speak up, then you haven't been listening.... or reading the assorted links already provided by other posters

 

if you think autonomously governed Greenland, elected by Greenlanders, is bad... then I guess I need to refer you back to the question you posed of me earlier..... ie... are you saying Greenlanders don’t have the moral or practical right to choose?

 

 

I don't read everything - I apologise for all my shortcomings - but I meant I hadn't heard anything from the Greenland 'leadership' - assuming they have a leader. Today I've read the BBC - nothing there today.

 

I'm the one asking the question whether Greenlanders have the moral or physical right to choose (why turn the question back at me? - I don't know, that's why I asked you - it wasn't rhetorical, I was actually looking for an answer). If they have, then they may well want to listen to Trump's offer - and why shouldn't they? If not, then we have to ask what kind of 'autonomy' does Greenland have, which is an interesting academic question.

 

 

 

[Becker]

7 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

 

I don't read everything - I apologise for all my shortcomings - but I meant I hadn't heard anything from the Greenland 'leadership' - assuming they have a leader. Today I've read the BBC - nothing there today.

 

I'm the one asking the question whether Greenlanders have the moral or physical right to choose (why turn the question back at me? - I don't know, that's why I asked you - it wasn't rhetorical, I was actually looking for an answer). If they have, then they may well want to listen to Trump's offer - and why shouldn't they? If not, then we have to ask what kind of 'autonomy' does Greenland have, which is an interesting academic question.

 

 

 

The Latest: Danish PM standing behind Greenland leader

[Opl]

11 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

 

I don't read everything - I apologise for all my shortcomings - but I meant I hadn't heard anything from the Greenland 'leadership' - assuming they have a leader. Today I've read the BBC - nothing there today.

 

I'm the one asking the question whether Greenlanders have the moral or physical right to choose (why turn the question back at me? - I don't know, that's why I asked you - it wasn't rhetorical, I was actually looking for an answer). If they have, then they may well want to listen to Trump's offer - and why shouldn't they? If not, then we have to ask what kind of 'autonomy' does Greenland have, which is an interesting academic question.

 

 

 

Did Trump only mention "Greenlanders" or Greenlandic Inuits ? "Well, a lot of things can be done.  I mean, essentially, it’s a large real estate deal.  A lot of things can be done.  It’s hurting Denmark very badly because they’re losing almost $700 million a year carrying it.  So they carry it at a great loss.  And, strategically, for the United States, it would be nice.  And we’re a big ally of Denmark, and we help Denmark and we protect Denmark, and we will."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-air-force-one-departure-12/

[AgMech Cowboy]

11 hours ago, bendejo said:

He is famously neurotic regarding germs, insects, etc.

I think you're confusing him with Howard Hughes. I've never read anything about him being neurotic. Don't make things up.

[bristolboy]

5 minutes ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

I think you're confusing him with Howard Hughes. I've never read anything about him being neurotic. Don't make things up.

TRUMP SAYS HE IS SCARED OF GERMS AND NEEDS TO DRINK FROM A STRAW TO AVOID CONTAMINATION

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-scared-germs-needs-drink-straw-avoid-contamination-671730

 

 

Shaking hands is ‘barbaric’: Donald Trump, the germaphobe in chief

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/01/12/shaking-hands-is-barbaric-donald-trump-the-germaphobe-in-chief/

 

Trump is such a germaphobe that aides aren't allowed to cough in his presence and visitors must wash their hands before entering the Oval Office, report says

https://www.businessinsider.com/germaphobe-trump-hates-people-coughing-and-sneezing-in-his-presence-2019-7

[jany123]

35 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

 

I don't read everything - I apologise for all my shortcomings - but I meant I hadn't heard anything from the Greenland 'leadership' - assuming they have a leader. Today I've read the BBC - nothing there today.

 

OK then... it appears your shortcomings include not reading the OP, as it clearly states that the Greenlander PM has addressed the issue as the head of government... his comments are referenced in the OP of this thread, and can easily be googled for verification, should you choose to do so

 

11 hours ago, webfact said:

She stressed that Greenland's premier, Kim Kielsen, had ruled out selling off the territory and "I obviously agree with him."

 

[jany123]

1 hour ago, JamesBlond said:

 

 

I'm the one asking the question whether Greenlanders have the moral or physical right to choose (why turn the question back at me? - I don't know, that's why I asked you - it wasn't rhetorical, I was actually looking for an answer). If they have, then they may well want to listen to Trump's offer - and why shouldn't they? If not, then we have to ask what kind of 'autonomy' does Greenland have, which is an interesting academic question

 

So... the first sentence... Greenland has full control over itself. It currently governs itself domestically, and relies on Denmark for issues of international import (and funding, although this reliance is continually reducing, in what observers see as a path to its own sovereignty)

 

this goes back to the 1970s.... supported by further agreements in 2009. The choices are Greenland’s... not Denmark’s... it’s got little to do with Denmark.

 

sentence two.... given the answer to sentence one, which you claimed to be unaware of, sentence two is a non event.... but... 78% of Greenlanders have voted not to leave Denmark if it resulted in a change to their living standards

 

these facts have been provided elsewhere in this thread.

[Bundooman]

10 hours ago, SammyT said:

God I always laugh when Americans go out of their way to lecture me about how absurd both New Zealand's Prime Minister and gun laws are. 

 

They really do need to take a long hard look at themselves as a nation and who they put into power

I agree. Sorry guys - the USA is finished. Laughing stock universally - led by a bumbling clown not fit to wipe my A - - -!

Oh, how proud you all must be.

[Cory1848]

4 minutes ago, Bundooman said:

I agree. Sorry guys - the USA is finished. Laughing stock universally - led by a bumbling clown not fit to wipe my A - - -!

Oh, how proud you all must be.

As an American, I have to look for a silver lining here. ... It's been a good era for stand-up comedy! American comedians have never had such good material to work with ...

[RoadWarrior371]

12 minutes ago, Bundooman said:

I agree. Sorry guys - the USA is finished. Laughing stock universally - led by a bumbling clown not fit to wipe my A - - -!

Oh, how proud you all must be.

Yep, feels finished, considering the USA could buy and dismantle your little 3rd world country 1,000 times over..... ????

[JamesBlond]

12 minutes ago, jany123 said:

So... the first sentence... Greenland has full control over itself. It currently governs itself domestically, and relies on Denmark for issues of international import (and funding, although this reliance is continually reducing, in what observers see as a path to its own sovereignty)

 

this goes back to the 1970s.... supported by further agreements in 2009. The choices are Greenland’s... not Denmark’s... it’s got little to do with Denmark.

 

sentence two.... given the answer to sentence one, which you claimed to be unaware of, sentence two is a non event.... but... 78% of Greenlanders have voted not to leave Denmark if it resulted in a change to their living standards

 

these facts have been provided elsewhere in this thread.

I bow to your alleged wisdom on the topic, though I am still unsure of a few things:

If Greenland has full right to self-determination, then why is the Danish PM involved at all? You are implying that Trump could go directly to Greenland with an offer? I rather think it has plenty to do with Denmark.

Was that an official vote or just a poll you are referring to? And what was the alternative to staying with Denmark - independence or allying with another country? I rather think it was not the latter - in which case, it's time for a new vote because there is new scenario on the table.

I should think they are all agog about this right now in Greenland and wouldn't be surprised if there are calls for a referendum. People like change for its own sake, especially those Greenlanders whose relatives have killed themselves out of despair.

[alan grice]

Denmark, isn’t that the Neutral Nation who was so Neutral during WW2 it fed the Germans , when Norway had The balls to fight.!.


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[newnative]

  The idea was 'absurd'--and that's putting it politely.  Nothing 'nasty' about telling the truth.  But Trump wouldn't know anything about truth as almost everything out of his mouth is a lie, an exaggeration, or false information.  Trump 'fact':  USA is the only country that grants automatic citizenship by birth.  Real fact:  30 some countries grant it. 

[jany123]

1 minute ago, JamesBlond said:

I bow to your alleged wisdom on the topic, though I am still unsure of a few things:

If Greenland has full right to self-determination, then why is the Danish PM involved at all? You are implying that Trump could go directly to Greenland with an offer? I rather think it has plenty to do with Denmark.

Was that an official vote or just a poll you are referring to? And what was the alternative to staying with Denmark - independence or allying with another country? I rather think it was not the latter - in which case, it's time for a new vote because there is new scenario on the table.

I should think they are all agog about this right now in Greenland and wouldn't be surprised if there are calls for a referendum. People like change for its own sake, especially those Greenlanders whose relatives have killed themselves out of despair.

Alleged wisdom? All I did was take the time to read the links, that others more informed than I, took the time to include in this thread.

 

all of your questions asked herein can be easily answered by yourself, if you too, take the time to read these links provided (excepting suicide... I’ve seen no links on that, although I did google it after you started talking about it, to get a better understanding for my own benefit.)

[JamesBlond]

8 minutes ago, jany123 said:

Alleged wisdom? All I did was take the time to read the links, that others more informed than I, took the time to include in this thread.

 

all of your questions asked herein can be easily answered by yourself, if you too, take the time to read these links provided (excepting suicide... I’ve seen no links on that, although I did google it after you started talking about it, to get a better understanding for my own benefit.)

So it is technically possible for Greenland to become part of the US - if the majority of Greenlanders so decide, regardless of what Denmark thinks? I don't want to spend all day googling this - I'm just looking for a clear answer from someone else who has spent all day googling it ????

[SometimezaGreatNotion]

9 hours ago, NanLaew said:

I mean the self-proclaimed US king of real estate is renowned for flipping property, isn't he?

Well, yeah he is renowned for flipping property to Russian oligarchs who need some big-time laundering services.

[Slip]

30 minutes ago, RoadWarrior371 said:

Yep, feels finished, considering the USA could buy and dismantle your little 3rd world country 1,000 times over..... ????

Or perhaps, like Greenland, it's not for sale.  Hopefully Trump won't throw his toys out of the pram again if that's the case.  The responses from his fans on here are cringe-inducing in these cases.

[Inn Between]

11 hours ago, webfact said:

"She's not talking to me. She's talking to the United States of America. You don’t talk to the United States that way, at least under me."

Typical Trump! He deflects insults aimed directly at him to his country, unable to accept that many people have a very low opinion of him and many of his policies,  No Donald, the insults are completely aimed at you and only you.

 

What a classic psychology study the man must be for first year medical students, offering a variety of mental conditions to examine such as megalomania, paranoia, and narcissistic personality disorder. 

[bristolboy]

18 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

So it is technically possible for Greenland to become part of the US - if the majority of Greenlanders so decide, regardless of what Denmark thinks? I don't want to spend all day googling this - I'm just looking for a clear answer from someone else who has spent all day googling it ????

I already gave you the information. Greenlanders have the right to vote for independence. Should they do so, they could, as an independent nation, agree to be absorbed by the USA. But a direct vote now, as the laws stand, no.

[Mansell]

And the Liar in Chief has never made a derogatory remark about anybody......NOT! He can dish it out, but cannot take it himself....what a girlyman she is....

"Nobody knows as much about Greenland as I do"

"Nobody knows as much about ISIS as I do."

"Nobody knows as much about the economy as I do."

"Jews love me."

I am the second coming of God."

 

What a total <deleted> this guy shows himself to be every day.

In a country with a government that had more than five functioning brains this guy would be impeached and thrown out because he is mentally unbalanced and probably mentally ill.

[Mansell]

10 hours ago, Tug said:

Just goes to show you money can’t buy class

Or an education if your brain is very small and doesn't function correctly.

[brokenbone]

12 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

So true. He is right to react like this to vicious and triggered attacks against himself. He was only floating out ideas. It sounds to me the mainland Danes are terrified the Greenlanders would actually vote for Trump's plans. As a naturally rich island ruled by a strict socialist society they would almost certainly be better of under Donald's capitalism and start getting rewarded for their natural resources.

 

 Hope he does buy it after all this song and dance from the Danes.

lemme guess: you gather your world view from fox news right ?

[Cryingdick]

13 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

So true. He is right to react like this to vicious and triggered attacks against himself. He was only floating out ideas. It sounds to me the mainland Danes are terrified the Greenlanders would actually vote for Trump's plans. As a naturally rich island ruled by a strict socialist society they would almost certainly be better of under Donald's capitalism and start getting rewarded for their natural resources.

 

 Hope he does buy it after all this song and dance from the Danes.

 

Oh well at least we took the Virgin Islands. 

[Opl]

"Carla Sands (a frequent retweeter of conspiracy theories who once starred in a movie so bad it was parodied on Mystery Science Theater 3000) , who heads U.S. mission to the kingdom of Denmark, has no diplomatic experience and now is in charge of patching things up with the Danes. To an extremely large degree, Sands’ social-media appetite mirrors the man who appointed her. But it’s rare for a top diplomat to be the one openly spreading conspiracies, even under a private account. "

Sands appears to have spent a fair amount of her time in Denmark focused on domestic politics back home.

[JamesBlond]

16 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I already gave you the information. Greenlanders have the right to vote for independence. Should they do so, they could, as an independent nation, agree to be absorbed by the USA. But a direct vote now, as the laws stand, no.

Thank you. Most useful post in this thread. The last sentence is the information I was after.

 

I don't foresee independence for the reasons I already provided, but Denmark could tweak the law to let Greenland go if Greenland pressured enough given new options on the table, and if the US made them a good enough offer - investment, infrastructure and tourism development - then I wouldn't rule out Greenland becoming the 51st US state some time in the future. In any case, it's quite a coup for Trump even to have brought it up.

[bristolboy]

6 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

Thank you. Most useful post in this thread. The last sentence is the information I was after.

 

I don't foresee independence for the reasons I already provided, but Denmark could tweak the law to let Greenland go if Greenland pressured enough given new options on the table, and if the US made them a good enough offer - investment, infrastructure and tourism development - then I wouldn't rule out Greenland becoming the 51st US state some time in the future. In any case, it's quite a coup for Trump even to have brought it up.

Yes. He should make it a permanent part of his clown act. Because the more clownish he becomes, the more the American electorate will respect him.

[jany123]

1 hour ago, JamesBlond said:

So it is technically possible for Greenland to become part of the US - if the majority of Greenlanders so decide, regardless of what Denmark thinks? I don't want to spend all day googling this - I'm just looking for a clear answer from someone else who has spent all day googling it ????

As I understand it... technically, Yes.... once independent, it can do what it likes,.... but as of today... no

 

to exclude Denmark’s opinion, Greenland must firstly achieve independence from Denmark. 

 

 

[JamesBlond]

11 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Yes. He should make it a permanent part of his clown act. Because the more clownish he becomes, the more the American electorate will respect him.

Sure he's a clown, and should be kept in check, but he's the antidote to political correctness which has been suffocating the world. We need him until all that nonsense is blown away, then we can get back to normal.