Trump calls Danish PM's rebuff of Greenland idea 'nasty' as trip cancellation stuns Danes

[bristolboy]

3 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

Sure he's a clown, and should be kept in check, but he's the antidote to political correctness which has been suffocating the world. We need him until all that nonsense is blown away, then we can get back to normal.

Right. Political correctness is the big problem facing the world today. Global warming, growing income inequality, inadequate health care, opoid and meth addiction,increasing pollution of the air and water. These are must minor issues compared to that.

[Opl]

11 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

Sure he's a clown, and should be kept in check, but he's the antidote to political correctness which has been suffocating the world. We need him until all that nonsense is blown away, then we can get back to normal.

I'd like to be as optimistic as you sound, but fear Trump's toxicity already has reached the point of no return.

Even after 2 mandates,  he will continue to spread his "thoughts" - good luck to his successor for they won't be just nice words.   

[jany123]

1 hour ago, alan grice said:

Denmark, isn’t that the Neutral Nation who was so Neutral during WW2 it fed the Germans , when Norway had The balls to fight.!.


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Denmark was a German occupied state, so... much like other occupied states, including Norway, it had little alternative in feeding the Occupation forces .... were you trying to make a particular point, or just ruminating?

 

 

[bannork]

1 hour ago, alan grice said:

Denmark, isn’t that the Neutral Nation who was so Neutral during WW2 it fed the Germans , when Norway had The balls to fight.!.


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America, isn't that the Neutral Nation who refused to join the war against the Nazis until they were themselves attacked at Pearl Harbour?

[rudi49jr]

He demands respect from Denmark for the USA, but has no respect for Denmark himself. Or for any other country, for that matter, besides those ruled by his greatest pals, i.e. Putin, Kim, Bolsonaro and the likes.

[alan grice]

America, isn't that the Neutral Nation who refused to join the war against the Nazis until they were themselves attacked at Pearl Harbour?

I think you may find that Airplanes that bombed Pearl Harbor were Zeroes not Fokers .But dont let that stop you saying Danes never helped Hitler..!


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[alan grice]

Denmark was a German occupied state, so... much like other occupied states, including Norway, it had little alternative in feeding the Occupation forces .... were you trying to make a particular point, or just ruminating?
 
 
I have respect for Norway but not for Denmark, they never even formed a resistance.


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[yogi100]

46 minutes ago, alan grice said:

2 hours ago, jany123 said:

Denmark was a German occupied state, so... much like other occupied states, including Norway, it had little alternative in feeding the Occupation forces .... were you trying to make a particular point, or just ruminating?
 
 
I have respect for Norway but not for Denmark, they never even formed a resistance.


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"I have respect for Norway but not for Denmark, they never even formed a resistance."

 

They did. They resisted the German invasion for six hours.

 

Later many Scandinavians volunteered to serve in the Waffen SS fighting the Soviets as they feared a repeat of the conflict Russia conducted against their neighbours in Finland.

 

But now the liberals who run Scandinavian countries like other European nations have about as much time for Trump as does Jeremy Corbyn.

 

The liberal media have jumped on this affair and blown it up out of all proportion. It was just an offer and a suggestion from Trump not a threat of invasion.

 

Big Donald is well known as an entrepreneur. As long as it does not snow Greenland is ideal for golf courses.



















 

[jany123]

1 hour ago, alan grice said:

2 hours ago, jany123 said:

Denmark was a German occupied state, so... much like other occupied states, including Norway, it had little alternative in feeding the Occupation forces .... were you trying to make a particular point, or just ruminating?
 
 
I have respect for Norway but not for Denmark, they never even formed a resistance.


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You altered my post by adding a paragraph.... i fully accept that this was accidental vs malicious, but as the post above shows, I will get included in your erroneous assertions.

 

meanwhile, Denmark did resist the nazi, significantly resulting in its Jewish population faring far better than that of any other occupied territory... actually, “Far better” Is an understatement.... given what was happening elsewhere, it was truly amazing.

 

But sure, hate on the Danes... after all, it was Danes that led the great heathen army on its destructive rampage across England in the mid ninth century. ????

[jany123]

1 hour ago, alan grice said:

I think you may find that Airplanes that bombed Pearl Harbor were Zeroes not Fokers .But dont let that stop you saying Danes never helped Hitler..!


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I think you might find that bannock never suggested that Germany attacked Pearl Harbor, and as such, his comment was 100% correct

[alan grice]

Liberals .!.[emoji207]


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[yogi100]

3 minutes ago, jany123 said:

You altered my post by adding a paragraph.... please try not to do that. (I accept that this was accidental vs malicious.)

 

meanwhile, Denmark did resist the nazi, significantly resulting in its Jewish population faring far better than that of any other occupied territory... actually, “Far better” Is an understatement.... given what was happening elsewhere, it was truly amazing.

 

But sure, hate on the Danes... after all, it was Danes that led the great heathen army on its destructive rampage across England in the mid ninth century. ????

I quoted your remark, I then added my remark. What  have I done wrong in doing that? It's what forums are for.

 

In the 1930s European anti nazi sentiment was not as widespread as we were later led to believe. It was Soviet force of arms that defeated Germany rather than resistance movements who understandably kept a low profile till they saw which way the wind was blowing in 1944.

 

The French authorities along with those of other occupied nations did most of Hitler's dirty work for him. It was a nazi sympathising Dutchman who betrayed the family of Anne Frank along with various members of the Dutch resistance.

 

Hitlers foolish and ill timed invasion of Russia that led to his downfall. After D Day for every German soldier fighting on the Western Front there were ten fighting the Russians in the East along with most of Germany's air force, tanks and artillery.

[jany123]

7 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

I quoted your remark, I then added my remark. What  have I done wrong in doing that? It's what forums are for.

 

In the 1930s European anti nazi sentiment was not as widespread as we were later led to believe. It was Soviet force of arms that defeated Germany rather than resistance movements who understandably kept a low profile till they saw which way the wind was blowing in 1944.

 

The French authorities along with those of other occupied nations did most of Hitler's dirty work for him. It was a nazi sympathising Dutchman who betrayed the family of Anne Frank along with various members of the Dutch resistance.

 

Hitlers foolish and ill timed invasion of Russia that led to his downfall. After D Day for every German soldier fighting on the Western Front there were ten fighting the Russians in the East along with most of Germany's air force, tanks and artillery.

lol... you did nothing wrong. The post you reposted was accidentally (I think) altered by another. I never made the comment about Denmark’s resistance (or lack thereof). My original post is at 123 at the top of this page.

 

this post that you lifted was 129... addressed to that poster, not you.

 

As to your point of view... i agree with you 100%... on each paragraph... it is a good response that should be directed at the poster who actually made the comment, vs me. (Which is why I pointed out that he had altered my post and that his erroneous assertions would be ascribed to me... and which is what just happened)

[yogi100]

2 minutes ago, jany123 said:

lol... you did nothing wrong. The post you reposted was accidentally (I think) altered by another. I never made the comment about Denmark’s resistance (or lack thereof). My original post is at 123 at the top of this page.

 

this post that you lifted was 129... addressed to that poster, not you.

 

As to your point of view... i agree with you 100%... on each paragraph... it is a good response that should be directed at the poster who actually made the comment, vs me. (Which is why I pointed out that he had altered my post and that his erroneous assertions would be ascribed to me... and which is what just happened)

OK sorry it gets a bit confusing sometimes. Ask Chomper, he'll understand.

[brokenbone]

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[brokenbone]

3 hours ago, alan grice said:

I think you may find that Airplanes that bombed Pearl Harbor were Zeroes not Fokers .But dont let that stop you saying Danes never helped Hitler..!


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you dont even know your own history,

and yet are trying to pretend you know others.

not until germany declared war on USA,

following japans bombing of hawaii,

was US at war with germany.

 

denmark helped germany ?

they were occupied so germany took whatever they wanted.

 

do let fact stop you from ridiculing yourself

[shy coconut]

18 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

So true. He is right to react like this to vicious and triggered attacks against himself. He was only floating out ideas. It sounds to me the mainland Danes are terrified the Greenlanders would actually vote for Trump's plans. As a naturally rich island ruled by a strict socialist society they would almost certainly be better of under Donald's capitalism and start getting rewarded for their natural resources.

 

 Hope he does buy it after all this song and dance from the Danes.

Oh boy!!

[Dogmatix]

Wait till his friend Putin offers to buy Alaska back or the French ask for Louisiana.

[balo]

18 hours ago, JamesBlond said:

Greenland came under Danish control as a kind of historical accident at at time when Greenland was nothing and nobody was interested.

Norway owned Greenland before we shared it with our neighbour Denmark.
Greenland was discovered by a Norwegian viking back in the 10th century. Then we had a population of Norse Greenlanders, coming in from Iceland and Norway and one of them was Leif Erikson, (the son of Erik The Red) , the first European to discover America, 400 years before Columbus! 

So Greenland means a lot to both Norwegians and Danes, it's a part of our history and will never end up as the 53rd state of America! 

 

[LukKrueng]

Here's an idea for you Donald: amend the 14th amendment to say whomever was born in Greenland since 1901 (or you can pick any other year if you want) IS an American citizen - whether they like it or not!!

This way you can also send the IRS to collect back-dated taxes......................

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Dogmatix said:

Wait till his friend Putin offers to buy Alaska back or the French ask for Louisiana.

Or native North Americans want Manhattan returned:  "here's your stinkin' finkin' beads back!"

 

 

 

[bendejo]

On 8/21/2019 at 6:24 PM, Carib said:

Sofar he has done nothing else but alienate the US from friends and allies by his distorted ways. 

What makes no sense is at his hyper-patriotic rallies he brags about his great relationships with the dictators he railed against as a candidate, and the crowd cheers.  ???

Just imagine Franklin Roosevelt, or Churchill, saying "I just got a beautiful letter from Adolf..."  Or JFK making jocular comments regarding his pal Nikita.

 

 

[JamesBlond]

1 hour ago, balo said:

Norway owned Greenland before we shared it with our neighbour Denmark.
Greenland was discovered by a Norwegian viking back in the 10th century. Then we had a population of Norse Greenlanders, coming in from Iceland and Norway and one of them was Leif Erikson, (the son of Erik The Red) , the first European to discover America, 400 years before Columbus! 

So Greenland means a lot to both Norwegians and Danes, it's a part of our history and will never end up as the 53rd state of America! 

 

Well that was my point - Denmark didn't get Greenland through exploration or conquest, and Norway didn't want it enough to keep it for themselves.

Can't say I'm convinced that the place should be a point of pride for either Denmark or Norway.

 

[brokenbone]

17 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

Well that was my point - Denmark didn't get Greenland through exploration or conquest, and Norway didn't want it enough to keep it for themselves.

Can't say I'm convinced that the place should be a point of pride for either Denmark or Norway.

 

norway did get greenland through exploration tho,

its an integrated part of their history, the viking era,

and norway was under a personal union under denmark for many hundreds of years, and at time it was one nation,

that is, norway & greenland was an integrated part of denmark.

 

based solely on historical claims,

it is more fit that denmark offers to buy back the outposts they (through their subject norway) founded

in north america

[evadgib]

3 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

Wait till his friend Putin offers to buy Alaska back or the French ask for Louisiana.

The Brits might even join in! ????

 

TBH I'd like to see Denmark neutering Trump by very publicly cancelling a future visit while '(h)air farce one' is in the air...

[JamesBlond]

47 minutes ago, brokenbone said:

norway did get greenland through exploration tho,

its an integrated part of their history, the viking era,

and norway was under a personal union under denmark for many hundreds of years, and at time it was one nation,

that is, norway & greenland was an integrated part of denmark.

 

based solely on historical claims,

it is more fit that denmark offers to buy back the outposts they (through their subject norway) founded

in north america

If you mean Solvang, that was founded by Danish immigrants who chose to be part of America rather than Denmark, which rather undermines your point.

[samran]

Donnie making the stupid assumption that most Westerners are gagging to be Americans. I mean, why would anyone voluntarily reduce their standard of living to become a citizen of the worlds only developed third world country?

[JamesBlond]

12 minutes ago, samran said:

Donnie making the stupid assumption that most Westerners are gagging to be Americans. I mean, why would anyone voluntarily reduce their standard of living to become a citizen of the worlds only developed third world country?

The Inuit are not Westerners. The US would be better able to develop Greenland than tiny Denmark can. The Greenlanders are already in despair (see suicide statistics) and should at least appreciate the option for change.

[newnative]

3 hours ago, balo said:

Norway owned Greenland before we shared it with our neighbour Denmark.
Greenland was discovered by a Norwegian viking back in the 10th century. Then we had a population of Norse Greenlanders, coming in from Iceland and Norway and one of them was Leif Erikson, (the son of Erik The Red) , the first European to discover America, 400 years before Columbus! 

So Greenland means a lot to both Norwegians and Danes, it's a part of our history and will never end up as the 53rd state of America! 

 

Been out of the country for awhile but pretty sure there are still just 50 states.  

[samran]

11 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

The Inuit are not Westerners. The US would be better able to develop Greenland than tiny Denmark can. The Greenlanders are already in despair (see suicide statistics) and should at least appreciate the option for change.

Yes, cause loading them up with the 2A is going to really help on that front.....not.