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Chiang Mai’s red cars boiling mad at Grab

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It appears a lot of people posting here not from CM typically a red taxi fare is 30 baht that is what I have paid from past Maya to Taepae gate cheaper than a grab for the same distance. Most people like Grab because they will come to your door and pick you up. Anyway not many red taxi out after dark

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I caught a red truck from the bus depot in Chiang Mai to the airport earlier this month, I live near the bus depot.  I checked and Grab woulda been B 200 the red truck asked B 150 - I was taking the red truck anyway before the price check as those guys have families and pay fees for running and put out big bucks to buy the right truck, the trucks can't just be any truck.  The Grab drivers are just looking to make a few extra coins and have nothing invested.  I paid the red truck B 250 as he had agreed to not pick up anyone else and just get me to the airport and he took the best route as he knew the city and the traffic.

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3 hours ago, suave said:

I caught a red truck from the bus depot in Chiang Mai to the airport earlier this month, I live near the bus depot.  I checked and Grab woulda been B 200 the red truck asked B 150 - I was taking the red truck anyway before the price check as those guys have families and pay fees for running and put out big bucks to buy the right truck, the trucks can't just be any truck.  The Grab drivers are just looking to make a few extra coins and have nothing invested.  I paid the red truck B 250 as he had agreed to not pick up anyone else and just get me to the airport and he took the best route as he knew the city and the traffic.

Nobody says that Grab is always cheaper.  Just more transparent and standardized, to avoid the oddball taxi driver where your choice is to pay an inflated ransom, or to cave his head in.

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In Chiang Mai I only use 20 baht "red cars" in the city centre and Grab for longer distances. 

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13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Korn Karnganokporn, representing the Chiang Mai public carrier rights advocacy association, along with several drivers of the modified pickup trucks

Why should anyone choose not to be taxied around in a modified pickup truck? They are perfectly safe. 

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Maybe drivers all know each other. That is probably because they have been around quite a long time. Doesnt make them a mafia.

 

The prices they charge - 20b local, 30b farang - are reasonable. Of course there is no meter, so sometimes they'll try it on, but you just push back. They refuse to take you to places sometime, but it's a shared taxi and they have to make a living.

 

They are a bit from a past generation. Mostly older men, sometimes with wife, driving older vehicles. Pollution is a problem. And the design of the conversion makes it uncomfortable with poor vision.

 

If red trucks and taxi pay a fee for licensing and regulation, so should Grab. Im not sure Grab drivers are so well off - I dont think they figure in depreciation and replacement cost.

 

Transport is totally fundamental to any economy. New transport modes are coming along. There is a need to integrate into a coherent transport strategy mixing cost and convenience for the country, commercial, private, tourist. It's a big job but it will take Thailand into the next phase which includes electric driverless, drones, trams, the BRI ..

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I lived in Chiang Mai for a few years and always enjoyed the rides in Red Taxis...
I also enjoy the Tuk Tuks as well as both where things I could not do in my home country...

 

I understand that they gouge, but if me and the missus didn't like the price, we would politely dismiss the offer

 

If I am in a rush, then Grab for sure.... 🙂

 

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12 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Grab is an excellent service...  the industry needs to evolve. 

 

But, the outstanding issue is that of licensing - Taxi Drivers and 'Red Car' drivers have to pay for a license to operate - it is this which make the competition unfair. 

 

IF Grab Drivers had to also pay for a license to operate the playing field would be even. 

Or, even better so, eradicate the Graf - why charge people to pay for a license to operate Taxi or Red car, but then also take measures to ensure the Taxi's and Red Cars are fully insured to carry passengers.

 

I can see how this is a little unfair for the Red Car drivers, but I have little sympathy given their aggressive and gang-like behavior, also doubt they are fully legal themselves. 

It's a Catch 22.  How can Grab drivers pay for a license if what they are doing is illegal?

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