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Chiang Mai’s red cars boiling mad at Grab

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17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Korn Karnganokporn, representing the Chiang Mai public carrier rights advocacy association,

Interesting name for the mafia cabbie association.... I get the “Chiangmai” and “association” parts, but I’m not too sure about the rest, 😁

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16 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Grab is an excellent service...  the industry needs to evolve. 

 

But, the outstanding issue is that of licensing - Taxi Drivers and 'Red Car' drivers have to pay for a license to operate - it is this which make the competition unfair. 

 

IF Grab Drivers had to also pay for a license to operate the playing field would be even. 

Or, even better so, eradicate the Graf - why charge people to pay for a license to operate Taxi or Red car, but then also take measures to ensure the Taxi's and Red Cars are fully insured to carry passengers.

 

I can see how this is a little unfair for the Red Car drivers, but I have little sympathy given their aggressive and gang-like behavior, also doubt they are fully legal themselves. 

 

grab is a half Singaporean company damaging the lives of locals.

It offers illegal services too and basically this is illegal both to offer and also to use.

I always wonder how all those law abiding farang supporting illegal services provided by a foreign found and based company!

Those red trucks or taxis pay lots of money for registration, plate, car and more.

Not like a grab car guy who only needs a 5 years old car and start this illegal service without any investment.

 

On top of this, Grab is expensive and believe me, once they create a monopoly by bankrupting and damaging other legit transport systems, they will increase their prices harder!

Then you all farang will start to cry and moan and b///ch but there will be no solution.

In many countries, such illegal services like grab car are banned. and for a reason.

Same happened with hotel booking sites like agoda.com. i was criticizing agoda and all farang was finding their services so convenient and cheap.

But now? all hotel prices in asia and around the world have risen bc of those hotel booking websites!

 

Just wake up you morons and dont support a capitalist foreign owned and founded company and support locals instead.

 

I am hoping the authorities start to go for a crackdown on grab car and also start to fine people using them.

I am sure easy to get the records of people and also driver from grab by police, with a simple court order.

 

 

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1 hour ago, catch104 said:

YEs, exactly, Taxi should have application that give the same convenience as Grab. I was discussing this point with a taxi driver during my last ride home from Donmuang Airport. Convinience is the key. Fair competition also should be. And frankly speaking, meter rate in Thailand is way too low. This is one of the main reasons taxi will try to cheat. HOw can they make a living especially with the drop arrival in Thailand. My taxi driver told me that arrival is so low than now he has to wait minimum 3 hours to get client at airport...

they have, it's called grabtaxi: https://www.grab.com/th/en/transport/taxi/

and they even have it for the red cars too lol it's called GrabRodDaeng, so no idea what those brainiacs are whining about except that they cant ripoff customers that way

 

You can choose it, then u get a normal real taxi or red car. u pay 30 baht i think booking fee (for normal taxi)37187484114_52192a8d05_c.jpg?w=1080&ssl= and the rest is using the meter of the taxi.

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little boys, half the time they will not stop for you and the other half they will take you in a impromptu tour of the city before delivering you to your destination, if they can understand you in the first place

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16 hours ago, mok199 said:

Bring back the rickshaw..

ban cars and bring back the rickshaws

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12 minutes ago, Galactus said:

 

grab is a half Singaporean company damaging the lives of locals.

It offers illegal services too and basically this is illegal both to offer and also to use.

I always wonder how all those law abiding farang supporting illegal services provided by a foreign found and based company!

Those red trucks or taxis pay lots of money for registration, plate, car and more.

Not like a grab car guy who only needs a 5 years old car and start this illegal service without any investment.

 

On top of this, Grab is expensive and believe me, once they create a monopoly by bankrupting and damaging other legit transport systems, they will increase their prices harder!

Then you all farang will start to cry and moan and b///ch but there will be no solution.

In many countries, such illegal services like grab car are banned. and for a reason.

Same happened with hotel booking sites like agoda.com. i was criticizing agoda and all farang was finding their services so convenient and cheap.

But now? all hotel prices in asia and around the world have risen bc of those hotel booking websites!

 

Just wake up you morons and dont support a capitalist foreign owned and founded company and support locals instead.

 

I am hoping the authorities start to go for a crackdown on grab car and also start to fine people using them.

I am sure easy to get the records of people and also driver from grab by police, with a simple court order.

 

 

 

LOL.

 

Boycot the foreigners or what? Like boycotting the jews in 1940?

 

Stop driving any car here then, they are all from foreign companies. And stop using the internet.

Why would i give a shat if a company is owned by a foreigner or a thai, what a load of <deleted>.

Stop supporting capitalist companies?

What are we in communism here, i might have missed that briefing... 

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15 hours ago, Inn Between said:

As usual, the sword is double-sided.  In a population with so much poverty, opportunities for people to casually improve their financial situation by doing things like driving for Grab should be welcome by the gov't. At the same time, if the transportation industry is glutted with so many people offering their services, nobody can make a decent living, that won't work either. 

 

I wouldn't want to be the ones trying to regulate and sort this all out. Either way, a LOT of people are going to be unhappy. 

so much poverty ???? do u speak about thailand 2019??? the thailand i know most people have two houses, latest iphones and two cars I wouldn't like to effort.... kids in private schools, top restaurants ,and on every corner a luxury shopping mall...etc...

yes there is some poverty but in the last twenty years situation approved dramaticaly...wanna talk about so much poverty talk about europe ... greek....england....germany...1 euro jobs....but dont talk about thailand..spore...hk...japan...s.korea...

 

 

yes europe ( on the maximal decline quickly and cerain ) africa or bangladesch..but sure not thailand...the thailand 1980/1990 agree but not Thailand 2019

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Older, antiquated, overpriced, and traditional forms of transportation, and businesses hate competition. Especially when their in house mafias have ensured them a monopoly for decades. No more. Things are changing, and you cannot hold back progress. Away with the turtles and the traditionalists, and in with the progressives. Live with it! 

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16 hours ago, genobkk said:

They are supposed to be used more like buses on routes for that they are fine, but early on they learnt how to rip off tourists.  Grab is very over priced in places like Pattaya and Phuket and certainly needs some regulations but why on earth would someone want to way 400 THB to ride 1 KlM in the back of a pickup truck?  This is 2019, not 1949

If it’s “over priced”, then people either won’t use it or a competitor will offer the service for less. But if people are using the service and it’s a well functioning business, then it can’t really be said to be over priced.

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4 hours ago, cmsally said:

Isn't there a choice of GRAB and GRAB ROT DAENG on the app?

So some red truck drivers do go through GRAB I presume.

The songtaews are licensed as they all have yellow plates. It seems that GRAB cars are not licensed to take passengers and therefore paying passengers would not be covered under their insurance if they got into an accident.

If you are in a accident with grab the insurance cover the passenger, when my gf applied to be a grab driver she had to prove she had a drivers and the car is insured, the whole process with the training, documentation etc took well over 2 weeks, grabcars have to be in a decent standard, and of the money the driver make 25% goes to the grab company.

 

grab is legal all over asean and it seems to be that people prefer grab because of convenience and safety.

 

Let people choose what they want to use.

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Those <deleted>ty red cars belong to the junkyard. 

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5 hours ago, hotchilli said:

In some cases it's Thais doing the only job they're capable of doing (just) driving a pick-up.

it's the only way they can generate an income, along comes a new generation of up-to date Grab taxis, that you can pre-order on the internet and you have competition... something we all know Thais detest.

Some say it's taxi mafia protecting it's monopoly, others say it's operators too lazy to up-date to the modern requirements of customer service... it's a bit of both.

Let the customer choose.... and then let the taxis evolve or stay the same.. some like a cheap ride up the road, others want the extra's  lets keep a service for both !

i use Grab and still use Songthews occasionally out of sympathy.  i feel sorry for them and understand that they have fallen on hard times.

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I used Grab in Phnom Penh recently and found it to be an excellent, reliable, quick service. They were always 50% less than street tuk tuks. Although whenever I said that I would just get a grab, the street tuk tuk always relented for the half price charge. I just tested my Grab app to see how much a 2k ride would be in Jomtien. It came out 190bt. The same ride I took in a pickup taxi recently for 200bt. A 5% discount is still a discount. I hope Grab catches on here in Thailand, the competition will weed out the lazy, unscrupulous taxi mob that already exists.

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1 hour ago, Totoandlilly said:

If you are in a accident with grab the insurance cover the passenger, when my gf applied to be a grab driver she had to prove she had a drivers and the car is insured, the whole process with the training, documentation etc took well over 2 weeks, grabcars have to be in a decent standard, and of the money the driver make 25% goes to the grab company.

 

grab is legal all over asean and it seems to be that people prefer grab because of convenience and safety.

 

Let people choose what they want to use.

I used Grab a few times in Pattaya, in talking to the Drivers, mostly female, they are not licensed in any way and informed me they were caught in road blocks from time to time and fined. therefore unless Insurance Companies in Thailand are completely different to the rest of the world then they are uninsured. 

 

I have no time for the Taxi Mafia that operates in Pattaya, wanting only to work for Farangs off the meter, but being carried in an uninsured unlicensed vehicle is very risky. I also find it hard to believe that Grab can run an all singing all dancing insurance policy that covers ALL RISKS for anybody being carried in a vehicle ordered on their App, the costs would be astronomical.

 

 

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