dallen52 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 14 hours ago, ballpoint said: I wonder if this will be able to take into account the type of visa, or if it will only be for a standard visa free entry for tourists? If the latter, then long termers will still have to use the manned checkpoints. This ties into the Thailand method of physically stamping passports still. Which consumes pages for frequent travellers. And obviously creates work, plus delays. Plus the biometric finger scans, which already exist in the passport. And the multiple image facial recognition scan. If my partner travels to Australia with me, NO visa sticker, NO entry or exit stamp. E Gates, incorporating the facial recognition scan, and a matter of minutes. UK still has a visa sticker for most overseas tourists and visitors. And arrival queues up to 90 minutes at Heathrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquis22 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 18 hours ago, Thechook said: Are you worthy? Just asking becsuse they want quality tourists, big spenders and we aussies spend big And we hate waiting in queues as it is a long enough wait to get to the nearest pub as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 20 hours ago, Thechook said: Are you worthy? Just asking becsuse they want quality tourists, big spenders and we aussies spend big yes, but only on beer. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaifriends Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 13 hours ago, dallen52 said: No they are not.... Part of APEC yes. ASEAN no. ASEAN membership. 10 States ― Brunei Darussalam, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam. ... Well described your point. So finally it is admitted that Australia is in Asia ???????????? Far far East, Further East, Kangaroo Asia and so on....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, Thaifriends said: Well described your point. So finally it is admitted that Australia is in Asia ???????????? Far far East, Further East, Kangaroo Asia and so on....... Used to be called Australasia as I recall. Australasia the nations of Australia and New Zealand. islands of the South Pacific, including Australia, New Zealand, New Guinea, and adjacent islands. all of Oceania including the regions of Polynesia, Melanesia, Micronesia, and Australia. But not China lol. (They own most of it anyway) Greater China now ranks as the top foreign owner of Australian agricultural land, overtaking the U.K., according to a government report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, dallen52 said: Greater China now ranks as the top foreign owner of Australian agricultural land, overtaking the U.K., according to a government report. it's like money and death - they can't take it with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongtourist Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 20 hours ago, Arkady said: Wonderful news for Ozzies and Kiwis. I hope they will have better luck using the machines than I have had. As a Thai citizen the machine rarely recognises my prints first time and sometimes not at all, resulting in me being shoved into the manual queue. I am hopeful that the new biometrics system hopefully to be introduced by the new 10-year passport concessionaire will be more efficient. Mobile phones have no problem recognising prints every time, so I am not sure why a system costing millions of dollars cannot. you can adjust the sensitivity settings on them machines. I think on the minimum, you could nearly scan your butt and it will pass. on the maximum setting it probably reject you 75% times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 But would I trust NOT having the proverbial entry stamp ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigz Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 22 hours ago, Tyrant said: With all the arabs now in EU, a little more and Europeans will be banned from the rest of the world. I thought it was quite a similar situation in Australia. Only Indians, Pakistanis, Somalis and Chinese instead of Arabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuvoc Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 7 hours ago, dallen52 said: UK still has a visa sticker for most overseas tourists and visitors. And arrival queues up to 90 minutes at Heathrow. Yes - and people complain how backward Thailand is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTgrizzly Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 3:56 PM, sweatalot said: Discrimination Where are the automatic gates for Germans, Americans, Brits? Gotta look after the important people first ???? ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 3:57 PM, Arkady said: Wonderful news for Ozzies and Kiwis. I hope they will have better luck using the machines than I have had. As a Thai citizen the machine rarely recognises my prints first time and sometimes not at all, resulting in me being shoved into the manual queue. I am hopeful that the new biometrics system hopefully to be introduced by the new 10-year passport concessionaire will be more efficient. Mobile phones have no problem recognising prints every time, so I am not sure why a system costing millions of dollars cannot. Just like the TM30 app it never got tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 19 hours ago, AntipodeanThai said: Your totally wrong get your facts right, Those from oZ represent 30% of inwards tourists You may have a decimal point in the wrong place, its 0.30% (including NZ). Thailand has 38 million tourists a year, 30% would be 12.5 million people, thats half the population of Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 2:04 PM, Reigntax said: In the EU ! You think America is in the EU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonowl Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 8:38 AM, Thechook said: Are you worthy? Just asking becsuse they want quality tourists, big spenders and we aussies spend big I'll vouch for that, spending good, cricket <deleted>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgoon Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 5:56 PM, sweatalot said: Discrimination Where are the automatic gates for Germans, Americans, Brits? Maybe they don't think those nationalities are trustworthy enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgoon Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 10:08 PM, Peterw42 said: You may have a decimal point in the wrong place, its 0.30% (including NZ). Thailand has 38 million tourists a year, 30% would be 12.5 million people, thats half the population of Australia. and three times the population of New Zealand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 5:56 PM, sweatalot said: Discrimination Where are the automatic gates for Germans, Americans, Brits? Yes , i am a Kiwi of total British decent, considering the mixed culture today I can not see why Australia or NZ would have priority for the above. Considering the crime rates, or the amount of criminals caught in LOS, NZ numbers are quite low, Australia a lot higher. Population numbers may play a part in crime rates. Seems that most of the bad criminals come from Africa and the middle east, Russia and China. So why give us priority, maybe this is just the beginning and Brits and America, Germany will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 4:46 PM, legend49 said: The official claimed that mostly people pass in 15 minutes and thats fast for Thai immigration????? Singapore has you stamped in 1 minute. Ah the old Singapore myth again. The processing time of each IO in Singapore is roughly the same as BKK. Singapore has around 18.5m visitors a year compared with more than double that in Thailand. Those visitors to singapore are spread through four terminals, whereas Thailand only has one. Try shoving 40m people through Changi terminal one and see how your one minute fantasy holds up. Not saying Suvarnabhumi doesn't have a problem - the numbers have clearly exceeded design capacity. But you need to compare apples to apples. Go through an airport with much fewer people passing through it and you can expect it to be less busy. Well done. (and by the way as someone who goes to Singapore once a month I have had 20-30 minutes queues on several occasions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G950 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 If the NZ & AUD passport holders go through E-Gates, assuming it is programmed to the letter of the law, does this mean "denied entry" with a valid Tourist visa will be a thing of the past? IE remove some IO's subjective opinion based on his/her bad hair day rather than an official policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phkauf Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 7 hours ago, josephbloggs said: Ah the old Singapore myth again. The processing time of each IO in Singapore is roughly the same as BKK. Singapore has around 18.5m visitors a year compared with more than double that in Thailand. Those visitors to singapore are spread through four terminals, whereas Thailand only has one. Try shoving 40m people through Changi terminal one and see how your one minute fantasy holds up. Not saying Suvarnabhumi doesn't have a problem - the numbers have clearly exceeded design capacity. But you need to compare apples to apples. Go through an airport with much fewer people passing through it and you can expect it to be less busy. Well done. (and by the way as someone who goes to Singapore once a month I have had 20-30 minutes queues on several occasions). As someone who just came back from Singapore, it took me 30 seconds to go through the AutoGate to exit the country. Why did it take me 45 minutes to exit Thailand on Friday at Swampy? On entry to Singapore took about 2 minutes total. Yes they have a better setup than at Swampy, but still the systems they use and the intelligence of the officers is far and away better than Thailand. They have also shifted more people to using the AutoGates which lessens the amount of people needed to go through the human channels - same with HK. If Thailand could shift 20 to 30% of the traffic to the AutoGates, the crowding problems would be much less of an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavodavo Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 5:38 PM, Thechook said: Are you worthy? Just asking becsuse they want quality tourists, big spenders and we aussies spend big second that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavodavo Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 5:38 PM, Thechook said: Are you worthy? Just asking becsuse they want quality tourists, big spenders and we aussies spend big second that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Very strange indeed. What if you'e a wanted criminal and just robbed a bank in Sydney ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G950 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, balo said: Very strange indeed. What if you'e a wanted criminal and just robbed a bank in Sydney ? Then you will be among friends when you land in Pattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 On 8/26/2019 at 10:58 AM, josephbloggs said: Ah the old Singapore myth again. The processing time of each IO in Singapore is roughly the same as BKK. Singapore has around 18.5m visitors a year compared with more than double that in Thailand. Those visitors to singapore are spread through four terminals, whereas Thailand only has one. Try shoving 40m people through Changi terminal one and see how your one minute fantasy holds up. Not saying Suvarnabhumi doesn't have a problem - the numbers have clearly exceeded design capacity. But you need to compare apples to apples. Go through an airport with much fewer people passing through it and you can expect it to be less busy. Well done. (and by the way as someone who goes to Singapore once a month I have had 20-30 minutes queues on several occasions). Just to update - came through Changi this morning. 50 minutes at immigration. Processing time of about four minutes per passenger, extremely slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 2:04 PM, Reigntax said: In the EU ! For the Brits to be dismantled soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 2:49 PM, Pungdo said: Australia and New Zealand are part of the ASEAN Free Trade area, could be why ???? Perhaps. Or they just wanted to start with the smallest piece of the tourism pie (apart from 'Africa'), as AUS/NZ make up only 0.3% of arrivals. Doubt that this will make queues much shorter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbi1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 3:57 PM, Arkady said: Wonderful news for Ozzies and Kiwis. I hope they will have better luck using the machines than I have had. As a Thai citizen the machine rarely recognises my prints first time and sometimes not at all, resulting in me being shoved into the manual queue. I am hopeful that the new biometrics system hopefully to be introduced by the new 10-year passport concessionaire will be more efficient. Mobile phones have no problem recognising prints every time, so I am not sure why a system costing millions of dollars cannot. I wonder how do these auto gates stamp passports for 30 day entries or for people with tourist visas that get stamped 60 days on entry? Or is it after passing the gate there's an immigration officer to stamp passports lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbi1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 4:26 PM, BestB said: But how would the stamps work? or no more stamps? I'm wondering the exact same thing. How does the machine detect that you have a tourist visa and the machine stamps your passport with a 60 day stamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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