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Hi all,

 

To keep story short, I firstly entered Thailand this year via Suvarnabhumi Airport on the 15th of January making a 15-day visa on arrival and left at the end of January back to my home country.

I spent 2 months back home and returned back to Thailand granted a 60-day tourist visa on the 1st of April, I had one 30-day exempt and I left on the 23rd of June back home.

I spent over a month home again in Europe and decided to return to Thailand in August. I wanted to make a visa, but my country was granted a 30-day exempt rule, so I didn't bother about it. The main mistake I did was when I flew to Suvarnabhumi on the 1st of August, I totally neglected the fact to have an outward ticket and the equivalent of 20,000 baht with me. The officer looked at my tourist visa and an exempt, they asked me to show the outbound ticket, but I told them I hadn't bought one yet, and I'm still on an exempt, so I hadn't known this. She lead me to another officer. She started questioning me what I was doing in Thailand. I told her that I had a girlfriend here and I came to visit her, but I'll be making a proper visa later on, since I heard such stories when they start questioning you at the airport. She was very pleasant and said me not to worry and they will let me in.

Only when I passed the immigration, I was terrified: didn't have ticket/cash/anything. But I didn't expect it: I never did a visa run. It's my third time now in Thailand and all the times I spent over a month or two at my home, so I didn't expect to be questioned for a total of 3 months 10 days in 7-month period. However, this made me really worried. I am going to make an extension now and I still have one month off. I want to do a visa run, make a visa in Laos, come back and in 2 months get a proper non-immigrant visa.

What worries me, however, if they started questioning me just because of 1 tourist visa and an extension in my passport, may I be denied if I get a visa on my first-ever visa run? I mean, I read so many people had 4 or more tourist visas and were fine, but it really shocked me when they were so suspicious just for 1 visa and 1 extension, the first lady called it 'staying for so long'.

That's the whole story. My main questions are if anyone could please suggest me:

 

1. In 2019, is it a good idea to go to Laos to get a visa? Do you think there might be a better country to go for it? I'm flexible regarding this.

2. I didn't use the two border runs that are allowed within a calendar year: is it worth it/higher likelihood to avoid denial than the run via airport?

3. However, the main concern is: if I get denied, in the worst case scenario, can I try to enter any other border or another airport expecting not to be denied? I mean, they will still see denial in my passport, won't it affect the decision at another entry point? That's what I can't find on any forums. How long would I actually need to wait until I can try to re-enter? I heard if you are denied at the border, you might try the airport. But what if you get denied at the airport as well? And is their decision influenced by the border denial? If you get denied by both, what would be the next step to try to get back to the country and how long would it take?

 

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. It wouldn't be so tough, but I have two big bags of stuff with me. I can leave it here where I am renting the flat, since I don't want to carry all the heavy stuff always with me, but in case I get denied, it will just be hanging here. I am just about to start my business and I need some time before I can legally live here, so I need another visa before I can truly move forward to a more legal way to stay here longer.

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Make sure the TM30 has been lodged

Start a business?? without proper visa??? mmmmmmm

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Im suprised you were allowed to board without an onward ticket or visa. BA always ask to see my extension stamp at Heathrow when Ive done the return from BKK

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9 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Make sure the TM30 has been lodged

Start a business?? without proper visa??? mmmmmmm

My business is by no means related to my questions. It was only regarding the fact that I can't provide piles of funds needed for proper visa without actually working here or being married. I am not running it here in Thailand.

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20 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

mistake. tourist don't have girlfriends.

yes this is the new Thailand. spread the word.

sounds like they just wanted you to know they know you are not a tourist and this will not go on for long.

yes get your visa in order because the new Thailand does not cut anyone any slack. don't make long term plans for family and a job or business in Thailand because you can't get away with it any more on a tourist visa.

 

And don't forget that you or your hotel or landlord must file your TM 30 form every time you go somewhere for more than 24 hours. 

Thanks for all this, I appreciate that your comment is up to the point. I will definitely do a new one, but I'd really need some time before I can actually get it due to a lot of personal circumstances. Do you by chance know what happens if you get denied, how long should you wait to re-enter?

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1 minute ago, Kerouacaurus said:

 Do you by chance know what happens if you get denied, how long should you wait to re-enter?

i can't answer that. other people here can answer that question, don't worry they will be here soon. 

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Welcome to Thailand...place your money, passport, and departure ticket on the table...now bow...place your hands on the table...spread your legs...brace yourself...wait for it!...😳

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I’ll move your post to the appropriate forum, this one is for questions regarding travel out of Thailand


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Troll post and measured response removed.


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1 hour ago, NCC1701A said:

mistake. tourist don't have girlfriends.

Rubbish. Many people met their Thai wives on tourist visas.

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1 hour ago, Kerouacaurus said:

My business is by no means related to my questions. It was only regarding the fact that I can't provide piles of funds needed for proper visa without actually working here or being married. I am not running it here in Thailand.

It is illegal to work here for your business outside Thailand without a proper visa and work permit.

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2 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

It is illegal to work here for your business outside Thailand without a proper visa and work permit.

You think I'm not aware?

Come on, guys, out of all the posts, only one was close to answering my actual questions. I don't understand what guys like this are even doing on this forum. I came here for practical solutions, not quoting me the regulations. Commenting something totally off and not related. Giving some additional picture was a huge mistake to post here. Totally useless. You can just lock this post. I don't expect anyone to reply anything answering the actual questions.

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Posted (edited)

It is highly unlikely you will be denied entry at any land border with a tourist visa/visa exempt except Ayutthaya/Poipet. It is more likely you will be denied at any airport and they will detain you then force you to buy a last minute ticket back where you flew from. 

 

You need an appointment for a tourist visa in Vientiane and proof of funds. I think it might be more easy in HMC/Vietnam but do your research on this forum. 

 

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