thaicurious Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/uncategorized/lgbt-acceptance-around-the-world/ Global Acceptance Index "...Results show that average levels of acceptance for LGBT people and rights have increased globally since 1980... ...democracies with a commitment to a free press and the rule of law had the strongest relationship between acceptance and legal inclusion... ...measures showed a positive correlation between LGBT inclusion and GDP per capita https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/press-releases/lgbt-acceptance-increases-press-release/ Key findings include The Legal Count Index: Having one additional legal right was associated with an increase of $1,694 in GDP per capita. Countries with the most inclusive Legal Environment Index showed a statistically significant addition of $8,259 in GDP per capita. A one-point increase in the Global Acceptance Index was associated with an increase in GDP per capita of $1,506. Full Studies: https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Polarized-Progress-April-2018.pdf https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/GDP-and-LGBT-Inclusion-April-2018.pdf https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Acceptance-and-Legal-Inclusion-April-2018.pdf https://www.astraeafoundation.org/stories/new-global-acceptance-index-lgbt-people/ Findings were analyzed from 11 cross-national, global and regional surveys and reveal that 80 countries (57%) experienced increases in acceptance. Forty-six countries (33%) experienced a decline in acceptance and 15 countries (11%) were unchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, thaicurious said: https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/press-releases/lgbt-acceptance-increases-press-release/ Key findings include The Legal Count Index: Having one additional legal right was associated with an increase of $1,694 in GDP per capita. Countries with the most inclusive Legal Environment Index showed a statistically significant addition of $8,259 in GDP per capita. A one-point increase in the Global Acceptance Index was associated with an increase in GDP per capita of $1,506. Complete nonsense. How do they demonstrate that increased GDP does not translate into more acceptance/laws? The proper path to acceptance is to change the hearts and minds of the citizens, not bully them with laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicurious Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, timendres said: Complete nonsense. How do they demonstrate Links are provided above to the full studies. Methodologies are described therein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, thaicurious said: Links are provided above to the full studies. Methodologies are described therein. I imagine it's the same sort of methodology (and assumptions) as we get in reports that claim superior returns from investments in companies with more women directors and senior managers. I've yet to see one that claims superior returns from investments in companies with more gay male directors and senior managers but I wouldn't be surprised to hear something like it exists. Unfortunately for the theory since many gay white males are indistinguishable from gay straight males it would be a tad difficult to prove that, say, BP prospered more under Lord Brown as a gay white man than someone else as a straight white man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicurious Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said: I imagine Links are provided above to the full studies. Methodologies are described therein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I will be delighted when gays relax and accept themselves into mainstream culture without having endure lectures, studies, and lawsuits...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Puchaiyank said: I will be delighted when gays relax and accept themselves into mainstream culture without having endure lectures, studies, and lawsuits...???? Why exactly would we want to be part of mainstream culture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, thaicurious said: Links are provided above to the full studies. Methodologies are described therein. I can look at the methodologies described in studies done by universities of the efficacy of medical drugs funded by the pharmeceutical companies that manufacture them and find the same methodologies as you are endorsing in the studies you cite. I want to see some multi-generational, longtitudinal, independent peer-reviewed studies before I'm hanging my hat on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 A California based study? They may have biased conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicurious Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, ThaiBunny said: I can look at the methodologies described in studies done by universities of the efficacy of medical drugs funded by the pharmeceutical companies that manufacture them and find the same methodologies as you are endorsing in the studies you cite. I want to see some multi-generational, longtitudinal, independent peer-reviewed studies before I'm hanging my hat on them In the time it took you to come up with that you could have looked at the methodology of the work posted yourself (& by the way my posting their work is not my "endorsement" just like if I was to copy/paste something of yours, also not my endorsement). I had wondered myself whether such info might be causal or simply coexisting, caused by other factors that might also lean a society towards acceptance. I don't know whether this research is as yet peer reviewed however the UCLA Law school hosting Williams is rated the 15th (out of 201) best law school in the USA. Doing your work for you, a quick perusal of their method https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/GDP-and-LGBT-Inclusion-April-2018.pdf page 9 of 17 shows them citing Badgett et al 2014 (apparently if i read it right for figuring how factors affect gdp) one of the authors of this paper. Googling him gets: oh look, a peer review submitted article https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X19300695 The relationship between LGBT inclusion and economic development: Macro-level evidence Author links open overlay panelM.V. LeeBadgettaKeesWaaldijkbYana van der MeulenRodgersc Show more https://doi.org/10.1016/j.worlddev.2019.03.011 So looks like just either submitted or published this month. Would you like for me to check every so often for reviews of it and report back to you or do you think you can take it from here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthemoon Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Vietnam scores higher than Thailand? Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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