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Right on time: Phuket Immigration explain TM30 and TM28 requirements for reporting foreigners

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8 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

This is getting more confusing as it goes on. Have to admit I'd never heard of TM28 till just now. I downloaded it from the link below. It refers to having to inform the local police within 24 hours; so does this means a trip to immigration AND a trip to the local police?

 

If immigration really wants to keep a track on every non-thai's movements every time they spend the night at a new location, they could make it easier on us and on immigration by making the place to report to the immigration office OR local police station. Immigration for me is one hour drive one way whereas the local police is 10 minutes.

 

https://immigrationbangkok.com/thailand-immigration-forms/

Dude.  Immigration is the police.  I am not sure I remember correctly, but I think I read that if Imm is inconvenient, you have the option to report to your local cops.

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2 hours ago, Wake Up said:

You went all the way to the immigration office to do this. Ok for you but I am not going to CW in BKK every time I travel. Simply will not do it and will not worry about it. I go to CW once a year for an extension of stay and that is all I am willing to do. I mail the 90 day report sometimes. I did put 800 k in a Thai bank. 

I really don’t care about doing anything else and if that means I don’t get an extension of stay this year then so be it. But to let this stuff upset you or cause  you to pat yourself on the back to me is funny. 😆

For some nasty, greasy foreigners, being denied an extension of stay has more consequences than it apparently does for you.  That probably makes you smart for not getting yourself bogged down, but it doesn't change the fact that some people have more at stake and cannot just say "mai pen rai" and head off to greener pastures on short notice.

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Wow. 9 pages in 11 hours.

 

Useful Information learned since page 1: Zilch.

 

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Does this also apply to Tourists and business visa holders or just those who are long stay visa holders over 90Spelling days?  Can not the condo management do the TM30 reporting on behalf of the condo owner/investor?

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1 hour ago, rexall said:

You see, this is the rub. Although Col Nareuwat Putthawiro made it clear several times that the TM30 is the responsibility of the landlord/owner, not the greasy, nasty foreigner, there are scenarios were you get sucked into the process anyway. Being married to the owner is one.  The situation you describe is another; you would have to call your landlord (who may not speak English) and inform him or her of your return home. If you are being helpful, you probably also want to remind him or her that failure to file is punishable by death!  Unless the owner is on-the-ball with this kind of stuff, you may be better off just getting power of attorney and doing it yourself anyway ... especially as--in spite of what Col Putthawiro says--your local I/O may hold you responsible anyway!  

There's another way that works in several Immigration offices. You fill in the TM30 as the possessor of the condo/house if the rental contract is in your name. Then you report yourself. Did work for me. 

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6 hours ago, OffshoreMig said:

Does this also apply to Tourists and business visa holders or just those who are long stay visa holders over 90Spelling days?  Can not the condo management do the TM30 reporting on behalf of the condo owner/investor?

 

Applies to all foreigners staying in Thailand ....

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19 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

In local Imm Office yesterday...wife asked about this issue....IO simply said Mai Pen Rai....so now we won't bother..not that we ever have.

Where was this Chris? 

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As has been pointed out before, this "staying with friends" business is bizarre and unenforceable. How is IO going to know you left your home and stayed with friends, and then returned home unless someone "rats out out," or by some weird fluke your friends get caught. That seems highly unlikely, and one the guy in the Korat IO said as much.  However, make no mistake, the intention of the law is that your friends report you as well as any Jews they happen to be hiding in the attic.  Sigh!
Even staying in hotels is unenforcble. I dont think(hope) they have a central database so a hotel owner will report you to one immigration office (eg Chantaburi) but your local office(eg Chonburi) will not get a report. It is only when you enter the country that it will show on your record.

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8 minutes ago, Wongkitlo said:

Even staying in hotels is unenforcble. I dont think(hope) they have a central database so a hotel owner will report you to one immigration office (eg Chantaburi) but your local office(eg Chonburi) will not get a report. It is only when you enter the country that it will show on your record.

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The online system isnt office specific and available for immigration anywhere. Thats how they know you haven't done a local TM30 report, the system shows you are still in another place.

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21 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said:

So as I understand this, I did a 90 day report yesterday (TM47), and I have gone to stay at my friends for the weekend I have to complete a TM28 and my friend has to complete a TM30 within 24 hours. 

On returning home on Monday I have to complete another TM28 and my wife has to complete another TM30 within 24 hours to say I have returned?

 

Madness!!

yes but as if you will bother with that...

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The online system isnt office specific and available for immigration anywhere. Thats how they know you haven't done a local TM30 report, the system shows you are still in another place.
If their computer system is so great why does it take weeks to get a password for their app?Allowing that their computer system is so organized to keep track of every tourist's movements they have a problem that hotels report someone arriving and not leaving. I could check in for 1 night then extend my stay. Or I could go to somewhere completely different and not report. I would still be registered at the 1st hotel. I don't think the hotels report every room night for every guest.

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I will fly in next month to visit my wife in BKK for a few of day’s holiday and stay with my wife and need to go out of BKk to visit her father and I will lose a whole day traveling to immigration, waiting all day to process my TM30 and TM28 and then lose another day when I return from her fathers house which this poor old man has to report also. Wow my whole holiday has just been ruined.

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27 minutes ago, Wongkitlo said:

If their computer system is so great why does it take weeks to get a password for their app?Allowing that their computer system is so organized to keep track of every tourist's movements they have a problem that hotels report someone arriving and not leaving. I could check in for 1 night then extend my stay. Or I could go to somewhere completely different and not report. I would still be registered at the 1st hotel. I don't think the hotels report every room night for every guest.

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I think you will find humans hand out the passwords after checking documents, not the computer system. 

Any computer system/database will only have the latest data that has been entered, No data entered isnt a shortcoming of the computer system, it simply means no new data has been entered.

 

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All thailand has to do is pay mark zak......

CEO  if Facebook to buy  our personal details they will happily sell government  from intel from  where we stay to what our kids eat for breakfast 

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