Bluespunk Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Prove it There is absolutely no evidence to support the existence of a giant beard in the sky or any afterlife. I don’t need to disprove the existence of something there is no evidence for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Isn;t it funny how people who believe in re-incarnation seen to eat more fried chicken than anyone else ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 We are already living in the after life. We achieved life, and this is what happens afterwards. The after death is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicurious Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 You can experience consciousness not just by our daily waking lives but variously including in ways described by some as astral projection aka astral travel or as an out of body experience or as any other various forms of what is referred to in the west as lucid dreaming or known as dream yoga in Tibetan Buddhism (by way of the atiyoga of the Mahayana school--Thailand mostly practices the Theravada school), also known by Native American Toltecs (made widely known by Castaneda) simply as sorcery, or by the Vigyan Bhairav tantra of Hinduism, etc etc etc. Of all that we have at least empirical-evidence-of-sorts. Not the usual everyone observing the same thing at the same time, but lots of individuals reporting separately the same or similar observation. In all cases, however, the body remains intact. Outside of some religious belief, we've yet to hear direct evidence of existence outside the body from any individual or group who has returned to tell the tale after their body has decomposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 What was the question again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I truly believe that I am a character in a video game, who's operator does not want to invest money in the game or has absolutely the worst luck opening lucky chest/boxes. Still, have the zombie expansion add-on soon to cope with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, NCC1701A said: sorry you are right. Tang Mo. lovely melons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said: What was the question again? Pass the bong. Pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Perhaps this IS the afterlife. Died previously but the consciousness remained. Not sure how to explain the increase in population though, especially as some came back as cows. Don't regret for one moment all that acid I dropped decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 i will try to remember to come back to tvf and write all about it if there is, unless muslims got it right and theres 72 virgos waiting for every man, donno if i will have the time to send the meme if i gotta train so many. a bit curious about that part tho: who build the beds ? the room, who cooks the food ? who is the swine herder ? are there spiders in paradise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Well, asked myself same question & figured the dead should know, so I ordered a 'revolutionary device to get in touch with the dead' for 299.99, special price ... those barstewards sent me a spade !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 53 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Prove it Prove there is, i could prove it to you, just hand me that shotgun, you will be the test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gunderhill Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 53 minutes ago, wisperone said: My mom passed away almost 4 years ago. About 2 weeks after she was gone, there was a item in my house that she had given me about 20 years ago that was turned around. I noticed it right away and knew immediately that it was a sign from her and that she had visited my house. (I live alone so someone else didn't do it). I put the item back to its original position. The same thing happened about 8 times over the following 12 months. A few weeks before her first anniversary of passing, someone asked me if I ever had a sign from her, (apparently this person is into this stuff), and he stated that sometimes they will hang around for one year. About two weeks later, the item was moved again, and this was the last time, about one year from her being gone. I took that conversation experience of her working thru that person to let me know that she would finally be moving on. I didn't realize that at the time, except that she didn't come to my house and move the item again after that time. True story. I have a bunch of brothers and sisters, none of them had any similar experience. I was very close to my mom and was my parents primary care taker. They were both in their 90's. Prior to this, I wouldn't have believed in a after life and skeptical. After this, I know/believe that there has to be something happening after. How is the sleepwalking now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 Funny you should mention your mum,and things moving around ,my wife prays at night and uses a small object ,the other day it went missing we looked everywhere ,both of us searched her drawers,( no not the ones she wears) a couple of days later i opened it and there it was right in front of my eyes ,she reckons its happened a few times with different objects,strange.Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I believe the question underlying the question of life before/after death is the question of whether or not consciousness is independent of form. The right answer to that question would automatically answer the other question. Underlying even that question is the most basic question: what is consciousness? In other words, who and what are we? I believe, from observation, that there are not many people who are seriously willing to go down that endless rabbit hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 23 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Isn;t it funny how people who believe in re-incarnation seen to eat more fried chicken than anyone else ? I’m vegan and I believe, you’re born, you live, you die. Nothing before and nothing afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarteso Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 sorry you are right. Tang Mo. The order of the factors doesn’t alter the value of the product.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarteso Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I don’t believe in afterlife and even I don’t worry about “tomorrow”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Life is a like a game. Learn how to play by the rules. This was advice given to me by a dead guy. (Howls in 3 - 2 - 1.) It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. Mark Twain I have it on good authority that in general people have only a fraction of it right. Most of what people believe is just plain wrong. After a great deal of observation I tend to agree. Has anyone "played" with a Ouija board? I did for thirteen years or so. I can assure people of this: neither I nor my partner were moving the pointer. Both individual's fingertips are laid ever so gently on the pointer; just enough to make contact. There were many times that the pointer moved so fast that it left both of our fingertips. Anyone care to attempt an explanation? We know so little. Again, most of what we think we know for sure just ain't so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 a very simplified explanation of life and death. You have always existed , exist now , and will always exist, because you are a set of however improbable, posabilities.mitigated by time. The universe is mixing and remixing to produce all possibilities, one such possibility is you. So after your death, (the end of this set of possibilities) how long it will take for the same set of possibilities to occur again? A very long time!! But what is time to you? you are dead. To you a nanosecond and a yottasecond are the same. So to you the next sequence of events that will produce you, after your death would be immediate. So the question is not if there is life after death, but is there death? Is information the only thing that really exists ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 No but there is an eternity of tedium generated by teenage philosophical speculation and dumb questions. A waste of digatal resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, sirineou said: a very simplified explanation of life and death. You have always existed , exist now , and will always exist, because you are a set of however improbable, posabilities.mitigated by time. The universe is mixing and remixing to produce all possibilities, one such possibility is you. So after your death, (the end of this set of possibilities) how long it will take for the same set of possibilities to occur again? A very long time!! But what is time to you? you are dead. To you a nanosecond and a yottasecond are the same. So to you the next sequence of events that will produce you, after your death would be immediate. So the question is not if there is life after death, but is there death? Is information the only thing that really exists ? And what do I mean? And what do I mean by what do I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Tippaporn said: Life is a like a game. Learn how to play by the rules. This was advice given to me by a dead guy. (Howls in 3 - 2 - 1.) It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. Mark Twain I have it on good authority that in general people have only a fraction of it right. Most of what people believe is just plain wrong. After a great deal of observation I tend to agree. Has anyone "played" with a Ouija board? I did for thirteen years or so. I can assure people of this: neither I nor my partner were moving the pointer. Both individual's fingertips are laid ever so gently on the pointer; just enough to make contact. There were many times that the pointer moved so fast that it left both of our fingertips. Anyone care to attempt an explanation? We know so little. Again, most of what we think we know for sure just ain't so. The power of the unconscious mind. Yawn and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJKT2014 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 On 8/31/2019 at 7:45 PM, ivor bigun said: I know it sounds crazy but it happened There was a lot of that going on back then, staff going out the back for a spliff to get thro the day and talk sht about the last spliff they had taken helped pass away the hours. Aye it were tuff in them days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said: And what do I mean? And what do I mean by what do I mean? What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 There was a lot of that going on back then, staff going out the back for a spliff to get thro the day and talk sht about the last spliff they had taken helped pass away the hours. Aye it were tuff in them days.Not where i worked the wernt,i even got into trouble for wearing brown shoes to work once.Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion58 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/1/2019 at 1:13 PM, Tippaporn said: I believe the question underlying the question of life before/after death is the question of whether or not consciousness is independent of form. The right answer to that question would automatically answer the other question. Underlying even that question is the most basic question: what is consciousness? In other words, who and what are we? I believe, from observation, that there are not many people who are seriously willing to go down that endless rabbit hole. 1. No, because consciousness requires an object, i.e., form. 2. As a conscious form, you are an aperture through which the universe is aware of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion58 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 6:40 AM, sirineou said: a very simplified explanation of life and death. You have always existed , exist now , and will always exist, because you are a set of however improbable, posabilities.mitigated by time. The universe is mixing and remixing to produce all possibilities, one such possibility is you. So after your death, (the end of this set of possibilities) how long it will take for the same set of possibilities to occur again? A very long time!! But what is time to you? you are dead. To you a nanosecond and a yottasecond are the same. So to you the next sequence of events that will produce you, after your death would be immediate. So the question is not if there is life after death, but is there death? Is information the only thing that really exists ? Yes. There are no real beginnings or endings to phenomena - only perpetual transformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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