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What they don't tell you about clearing off to Vietnam

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2 hours ago, Andrew65 said:

Vietnam's the only country to have been victorious in 3 wars against 3 permanent members of the UN Security Council.

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talk of past wars is a bit silly in my opinion, nobody really cares about what happened before they were born. hatred of germans and japanese died out in my grandfathers generation and Im not young. most young people in cambodia havent heard of pol pot as far as I can tell. sure there is racism, but I doubt, unless they are elderly, any vietnamese have a grudge against the french or americans in particular these days

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1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

As a student of history I know exactly what the French got up to in Indochina ,

Good, you understand. 

 

1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

 

 

 

not good and no surprise that the vietnamese people fought for independence.

So there may well be some lingering resentment towards the French but NOT towards every white skinned westerner.

I am certain that the tourist guide did not use the expression Farang , its

 

Correct. 

1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

 

 

not a word in common usage in Vietnam and in any case I doubt that he is as ignorant as you clearly are.

If you mean French then say French , mean American then say American , saying Farang is simply stupid.

If I look somebody, how I know if from USA or France? Look same. 

 

 

1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

Dont you realise that everybody is a foreigner the minute they set foot outside of their own country , even you Yinn.

If I dont like Thais , I say I dont like Thais ( though I wouldn't because its moronic to make sweeping generalisations) I dont say I hate all Asians !

Some people hate asians. Some people hate black. Some people hate muslim. 

I don’t hate anyone. But some people do.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

Do you think all Asians are the same , have the same culture and beliefs , act the same , should Thailand be blamed for Japanese war atrocities.

Do you understand now ?

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On 9/1/2019 at 4:24 PM, NCC1701A said:

when i was in Saigon I was thanked for my country trying to help defeat the north. And was told most people don't even remember the war it was so long ago.   

 

ironically, Vietnam is expanding their military to fight the Communist Chinese aggression in SEA. Thailand is inviting the Chinese in by the car loads. Good luck with that. 

   

You mean plane loads. Also the Indians.

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13 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Good, you understand. 

 

Correct. 

If I look somebody, how I know if from USA or France? Look same. 

 

 

Some people hate asians. Some people hate black. Some people hate muslim. 

I don’t hate anyone. But some people do.

 

 

 

No

Most educated people can tell the difference between westerners just as they can between Asians. Cambodians have double eyelids for example, while Burmese could be anything from dark skinned Indian looking people to lighter skinned Chinese looking ones.

 

Westerners too - plenty of different hair colors and the accents or languages spoken alone should give you an idea. If anything, Asians look more similar to each other than westerners do, mainly due to Asians all having the same hair color. Of course since you think there is such a thing as "phasaa farang" you can't distinguish between French and English, let alone any other language.

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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Wow.

That's really very weak. 

Who is they?

Today's tourists and expats in Vietnam, all that happen to have white skin, killed his family?

Seriously?

That is what he say.

 

 

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Do you even have a clue about the concept of racism? 

Yes. It like when you go kill people in the other country because you don’t agree with “communism” or religion. Like that.

 

or could be for “weapon of mass Destruction”. Think ok if you have that, but not ok other country have that. And they not have that.

 

or could be to attack afghan because Saudi guy live in Pakistan attack you.

 

or China because? I not know why? Money?

 

 

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

But you're right about one thing. I've had experiences abroad where the person I am talking to doesn't realize I'm American, and quite often they start spouting anti-American hatred.

I not hate USA.

But understand why my food guide does. Or other people. Iraq, ahghan, etc etc

if you kill the family, bomb my house this people will hate you. Normal feeling.

i like peaceful.

 

if not that reason why you think have “anti American hated”. I think it the reason.

 

 

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So you as a not farang would be in a much better position to hear how the people there really think.

Yes. 

 

I think if farang want want to go vietnam, the south better. 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, phycokiller said:

talk of past wars is a bit silly in my opinion, nobody really cares about what happened before they were born. hatred of germans and japanese died out in my grandfathers generation and Im not young. most young people in cambodia havent heard of pol pot as far as I can tell. sure there is racism, but I doubt, unless they are elderly, any vietnamese have a grudge against the french or americans in particular these days

I echo your point. I recently had a great chat with a young fellow over beers at our hotel and his grandfather was killed in the American War (as they refer to it). He had no hard feeling about America, we both agreed it was mess from both sides. What he really got worked up about was the Mother XXXX'in Chinese as he put it. Most Vietnamese I come across have the same feelings.

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12 minutes ago, phycokiller said:

I think nearly all humans do, one for each eye

it is a popular operation for Thais to undergo...  the farang eyelid crease

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