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What’s it really like living as an Expat in Vietnam? (Interview)

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This post, like a similar thread a couple of days ago, about moving to Vietnam from Thailand is either a troll or so inaccurate/highly selective/subjective to give me the feeling that I am in a different Vietnam when I made the move from Thailand 2 years ago.

What has the availability of lemon(most certainly limes are sold everywhere here) to do with such a move. 

In the south of Vietnam, a tiny minority of Vietnamese, will eat dogs, many more keep them as pets and would never hurt a dog, let alone cats. 

These posters talk about non-issue like lemons and canines, while forgetting to mention some of the real annoyances, chief among them that constant honking, even on a completely empty road the average motorcyclists has to sound their horn every few seconds. Even in a smaller town hardly an hour goes by without hearing an ambulance siren probably rushing to an accident site. So traffic wise, there is not much to choose between the 2 countries. 

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21 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

I spent some time there last year and to me the negatives far out weigh anything for me.

I do not need to work ever again so the English teaching job deal is mute point.

Many golf courses, many available girls, modern infrastructure, modern living standards, and most importantly the medical and hospital care are tops for me.

Vietnam has none of this from my observation.  The dude interviewed is living in a hotel?.

 

A third world downgrade in life and lifestyle.

I thought the place was interesting, but to live there? No way.  I respect myself and my quality of life long term way beyond Vietnam.

But, good luck to those who chose this way of life.  Mostly because it is cheaper....

 

I agree.

 

One thing that most expats don't mention is that should they move to Vietnam, they probably won't be buying a car. Cars are even more expensive to buy in Vietnam than in Thailand and there's limited parking and many side roads are too narrow for cars to drive down. The Vietnamese government is decidedly "anti-car".

 

Unless very rich or for showing appearances, few Vietnamese own a car. It's like stepping back into 1920s America when owning a car was a "privilege".

 

Personally that's a big deal for me, maybe not for others, but certainly for me. Not having a car would be a definitive downgrade in my lifestyle. Similarly, so too would be the crammed living conditions most Vietnamese are used to.

 

It's OK as a tourist (you can choose to stay in some luxury accommodation if you can afford it) but it's rare to find a large house with big backyard. The most luxurious homes in Vietnam that aren't owned by party members or big company bosses are still very modest by our western standards. They might have 3-4 bedrooms but practically no garden to speak of.

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2 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

This post, like a similar thread a couple of days ago, about moving to Vietnam from Thailand is either a troll or so inaccurate/highly selective/subjective to give me the feeling that I am in a different Vietnam when I made the move from Thailand 2 years ago.

What has the availability of lemon(most certainly limes are sold everywhere here) to do with such a move. 

In the south of Vietnam, a tiny minority of Vietnamese, will eat dogs, many more keep them as pets and would never hurt a dog, let alone cats. 

These posters talk about non-issue like lemons and canines, while forgetting to mention some of the real annoyances, chief among them that constant honking, even on a completely empty road the average motorcyclists has to sound their horn every few seconds. Even in a smaller town hardly an hour goes by without hearing an ambulance siren probably rushing to an accident site. So traffic wise, there is not much to choose between the 2 countries. 

I wouldn't call it highly selective.

 

Although things are improving, Vietnam still doesn't have the choices that Thailand has. There are fewer supermarkets and the selection is poorer.

 

Housing is crammed - you won't be living in a house except if it's a skinny building with 3 floors in a row next to other skinny houses but with no garden.

 

Cars are incredibly expensive and almost no expat owns one, except the richest businessmen and company CEOs and even they won't be driving themselves but instead be driven by chauffeurs.

 

Crowded streets are an even bigger problem than in Thailand as you have pointed out. Honking is another big issue, again, as you have mentioned.

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28 minutes ago, drbeach said:

I wouldn't call it highly selective.

 

Although things are improving, Vietnam still doesn't have the choices that Thailand has. There are fewer supermarkets and the selection is poorer.

 

Housing is crammed - you won't be living in a house except if it's a skinny building with 3 floors in a row next to other skinny houses but with no garden.

 

Cars are incredibly expensive and almost no expat owns one, except the richest businessmen and company CEOs and even they won't be driving themselves but instead be driven by chauffeurs.

 

Crowded streets are an even bigger problem than in Thailand as you have pointed out. Honking is another big issue, again, as you have mentioned.

I can't argue with your reply :If you require a car and a mansion, you are probably better off in LOS. Public transport is also much better (not cheaper though) in Thailand. Buses in Vietnam don't have toilets :I always keep an empty plastic bottle which ,with my weak bladder ,I often make use of 555)

And, yes, the supermarkets, although improving, do not offer the selection of goods you find in LOS:Just got back from vacation in Los, where I was able to enjoy whole-grained, real bread:the refined white baguettes the Vietnamese eat day in day out gets old and has little nutritional value. 

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Don’t judge people when you know nothing about them or what might have happened in their lives. Just be grateful that you’re better off and don’t look down on anyone. Misfortune can happen to anyone.
Most just fail. I knew many like that back in oz.. Fat dumb and happy burning cash on poker machines, down at the pub all night every night etc

Of course there are those that got scammed but you pick yourself up and get on with it. Most wealthy people failed at some point
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From the OP topic

 

"My rent is in a modern hotel that includes fast Wi-Fi, market shopping service, laundry service, maid service, three hot meals a day and all utilities for $85 a month."

 

I straight away took that to mean he was talking about the facilities/utilities, excluding the hotel accommodation cost.

Badly worded and he should have given an indication of the hotel cost.

Still just for that it seems too low a figure.

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2 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Sorry to hear that hope you are OK.

So, you got cared for in your home country for practically nothing?

But, you are right. Not being responsible and having proper insurance here could wipe someone out.

I still pay taxes in my home country

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If you horn honk at a Viet, I gather there's less chance of being shot? than if honk at a Thai...

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From the OP topic
 
"My rent is in a modern hotel that includes fast Wi-Fi, market shopping service, laundry service, maid service, three hot meals a day and all utilities for $85 a month."
 
I straight away took that to mean he was talking about the facilities/utilities, excluding the hotel accommodation cost.
Badly worded and he should have given an indication of the hotel cost.
Still just for that it seems too low a figure.
I agree but without the actual rent it's somewhat believable. But those meals must be really grand for that price.

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On 9/2/2019 at 4:18 PM, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Petite college girls want to marry me, to impress their families.”

Hmmmm

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4 hours ago, Jano22 said:

Muslim land. Good luck

Bali is 80% Hindus, there's also a small Christian community there. 

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