webfact Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 A whole packet of MSG in the Som Tam? Trader explains why Thai caption: Mum's original recipe Sanook reporters went to a large som tam (papaya salad) stall after netizens commented in droves on a video that showed a whole packet of monosodium glutamate being dumped into a single mortar. Along with the white powder that Thais call "chuu rot" (flavor enhancer) came two full bottles of nam pla or fish sauce and the usual other ingredients of one of Thailand's favorite dishes. Thanyaporn Natthawat, 42, explained that they were not overdoing the MSG. They used a huge mortar to make 40 to 50 bags of som tam at a time. This they then sold at 50 baht a bag. The process saved time. Customers at "Yai Plerng" (Grannie Fire) were happy with the taste and there was a large clientele to sample the delicious food at the stall in Amnat Charoen, reported Sanook who said that the recipe had been handed down from mother to daughter. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-09-03 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, webfact said: The process saved time So does not cleaning plates and utensils properly, not washing your hands and not cooking meat long enough. 22 minutes ago, webfact said: Customers at "Yai Plerng" (Grannie Fire) were happy with the taste and there was a large clientele to sample the delicious food at the stall But what's the secret to your amazing recipe? Oh, I get it now! Anyhoo, what are people complaining about? Do they want delicious food or food that won't slowly kill you? We both know the two are mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 not good for those of us with an allergy to msg, I get violently ill if there is msg in food especially lots of it. They only use to to cover up old ingredients as fresh ones do not need it, where we buy ours they dont add msg because they use fresh ingredients Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 What's the problem? Personally I don't want MSG and it does not matter if half a spoon or three of them. But maybe Thais want MSG. Likely the vendor wouldn't do it if the customers wouldn't like it. And the customers would go somewhere else if they don't like the taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, webfact said: had been handed down from mother to daughter. The old "we've always done it this way" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I love MSG. But it makes my hands shake and my tongue tingle, so I have to find a place to put them until the effects wear off. Win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, seajae said: not good for those of us with an allergy to msg, I get violently ill if there is msg in food especially lots of it. They only use to to cover up old ingredients as fresh ones do not need it, where we buy ours they dont add msg because they use fresh ingredients Although I like street food, all the more reason to avoid street vendors and hole in the wall restaurants and move toward chain restaurants such as Sizzler and Fuji located in shopping malls that declare themselves to be MSG free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: What's the problem? Personally I don't want MSG and it does not matter if half a spoon or three of them. But maybe Thais want MSG. Likely the vendor wouldn't do it if the customers wouldn't like it. And the customers would go somewhere else if they don't like the taste. Well then Thais have no taste. If you have to use MSG to enhance the flavor of what you're making then you must be a terrible chef. One can season food plenty with nam pla or even just good ol salt and pepper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: What's the problem? Personally I don't want MSG and it does not matter if half a spoon or three of them. But maybe Thais want MSG. Likely the vendor wouldn't do it if the customers wouldn't like it. And the customers would go somewhere else if they don't like the taste. Exactly. The point with road stalls is that they make the somtam as you like it. No sugar, no pla raa, amount of chillies etc. If people don't like it, they didn't instruct the seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 MSG makes things taste better than they actually are. (think about that one) The stuff keeps me awake. When they overdo it, first it tastes like too much salt, but then it takes my taste buds to a place beyond saltiness, and it really messes up my stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, bendejo said: MSG makes things taste better than they actually are. (think about that one) Like mixing alcohol (vodka, gin and the like) with coke, fanta, sprite....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, bendejo said: MSG makes things taste better than they actually are. (think about that one) The stuff keeps me awake. When they overdo it, first it tastes like too much salt, but then it takes my taste buds to a place beyond saltiness, and it really messes up my stomach. it's really a parody of the battle of the tastes... just like if I were being told by mummy to put a heap of salt on my food... saying 'it makes it taste much better' - my answer to that is 'No, it makes it taste of salt' Being told by mummy, to put butter on my steak... - saying 'it makes it taste better' - again... 'No, it makes it taste of butter' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, tifino said: it's really a parody of the battle of the tastes... just like if I were being told by mummy to put a heap of salt on my food... saying 'it makes it taste much better' - my answer to that is 'No, it makes it taste of salt' Being told by mummy, to put butter on my steak... - saying 'it makes it taste better' - again... 'No, it makes it taste of butter' Both of them are in fact taste enhancers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Vacuum said: Both of them are in fact taste enhancers.. I am thinking 'distractors' or 'camoflage' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceruhe Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, drbeach said: Well then Thais have no taste. If you have to use MSG to enhance the flavor of what you're making then you must be a terrible chef. One can season food plenty with nam pla or even just good ol salt and pepper. This translated reads to me "A chef that is using 100 out of 100 possible ingredients is bad because he uses that 1 ingredient that my bandwagon is against, he would be much better if he only used 99 out of 100 possible ingredients because reasons." I'm aware of the controversy around MSG as a whole, albeit haven't read any studies to see just how manipulated the data of it is, but I'm very much in favor of "everything in moderation", be that salt, water, msg, sugar(!), coffeine, smoking or what have you. Since everything kills you anyway, might as well enjoy what you have. If peoples greatest concern with buying street food is MSG, then maybe it's not the MSG one needs to worry about but a hard look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Why bother with any other ingredients, just do MSG straight out of the bag, Animojoto arooooyyarrrrrouuuyyyyyuurraagghhhhh bloodpressure 15000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 31 minutes ago, bendejo said: MSG makes things taste better than they actually are. (think about that one) The stuff keeps me awake. When they overdo it, first it tastes like too much salt, but then it takes my taste buds to a place beyond saltiness, and it really messes up my stomach. If I eat something with MSG in the evening, I can't sleep before the early morning. Therefore I avoid Chinese restaurants. My favorite place, the Fishkitchen in Hat Yai sells some Chinese dishes and use MSG in them. But they have a remark on their menu, asking you to to tell the cook, if you have a MSG-allergy. http://harleys.de/fishkitchen/menu.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, tifino said: I am thinking 'distractors' or 'camoflage' .. and you're not wrong, if you'd mentioned chilli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, drbeach said: Well then Thais have no taste. Ok. I think thai food better than the farang most successful restaurant. Mcdonald the clown food. Is tasteless. Up to you. 2 hours ago, drbeach said: One can season food plenty with nam pla or even just good ol salt and pepper. Som tam Salt and Pepper? Maybe need the clown for promotion that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Yinn said: Ok. I think thai food better than the farang most successful restaurant. Mcdonald the clown food. Is tasteless. Up to you. Som tam Salt and Pepper? Maybe need the clown for promotion that one. The clown would make it a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 You lot do know that the MSG myth has been debunked, right? https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/msg-myth-versus-science/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Don't mind a bit but a lot gives me headache and knocks me out. In any case only a bad cook needs it our local restaurant used Zero MSG and all their food tastes great. I would worry more about how much sugar they put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Yinn said: I think thai food better than the farang most successful restaurant. Ah, but I have a problem for you. The restaurant selected for best Thai food in Bangkok, Nahm, was founded by David Thompson. a farang. I guess Thais can't even do Thai food right. https://guide.michelin.com/en/article/people/5-questions-with-chef-david-thompson-on-life-after-nahm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, DrTuner said: Ah, but I have a problem for you. The restaurant selected for best Thai food in Bangkok, Nahm, was founded by David Thompson. a farang. I guess Thais can't even do Thai food right. https://guide.michelin.com/en/article/people/5-questions-with-chef-david-thompson-on-life-after-nahm No problem. Sure. “Selected” by farang. Michelin the tire company. Maybe the clown guy. You believe him? Thai know about better one. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 hours ago, rkidlad said: So does not cleaning plates and utensils properly, not washing your hands and not cooking meat long enough and that's one (have many more) of the reasons I don't eat out of street food stalls, all the dust, smog from cars/scooters, flies and... and... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, Mavideol said: and that's one (have many more) of the reasons I don't eat out of street food stalls, all the dust, smog from cars/scooters, flies and... and... Then just move out of the city.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 49 minutes ago, Yinn said: No problem. Sure. “Selected” by farang. Michelin the tire company. Maybe the clown guy. You believe him? Thai know about better one. Sure. Why of course. The Thai palate is the only, best, numbah one, never mind some strange frenchies. Pure MSG is the dogs ballz. Too bad it was invented by the Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, DrTuner said: Why of course. The Thai palate is the only, best, numbah one, never mind some strange frenchies. Pure MSG is the dogs ballz. Too bad it was invented by the Japanese. The Thai food at Nahm not have enough MSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 8 hours ago, seajae said: where we buy ours they dont add msg because they use fresh ingredients Just the paraquat dressing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 hours ago, PremiumLane said: You lot do know that the MSG myth has been debunked, right? https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/msg-myth-versus-science/ Don't spoil their Thai-bashing fun! They need it to feel superior, leave them alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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