simon43 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 For quite a few months, I have had continmual muscle ache in my neck, at the sides and towards the back of my neck. I'm trying to figure out the cause. There is no headache - it is definitely an ache in the neck muscles. Each day I do some neck exercises/stretches to try to alleviate the ache. At first I assumed that the neck ache was due to my bed pillow. But experimenting with a softer pillow, harder pillow and no pillow at all hasn't made any difference. I know that neck aches are possible from bad sitting posture. I wonder if they can also be caused by standing for a long time. I teach online 'standing up', perhaps for up to 8 hours per day. I think I stand with a good posture, and prefer to stand, rather than sit, but perhaps my body is telling me otherwise. I wonder if there are any other causes of long-term neck aches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Mine was from an expensive heavy motorbike helmet. I think sleeping wrong and stress can also cause it. Other then teaching do you spend time hovered over a computer? I would not think standing would be the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adammike Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 It seems to be a new "thing" it's from looking at a mobile phone too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 My stress levels are zero ???? I stand straight upright and don't bend or crouch over a laptop or mobile phone. I can alleviate the ache somewhat by doing neck stretching exercises, but I also want to find out why my neck aches in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Could be your bed not the pillow. Neck aches are no fun I get it. Puts you out of wack and in a bad mood. If it is lingering maybe go to a Doctor I guess there are other medical issues it could be associated with. Also, it could be a shoulder or back problem manifesting itself in your neck. Anyway, if you are that uncomfortable get it checked out. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 ailments comes with age, try if massage gives relief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 What gives me fastest relief: place a 3/4 full water bottle in the freezer...fits nicely in the door. When aches begin, take out frozen water bottle...wrap it in a small cloth...place it at the point of problem... I also use this technique if I am hot around the neck area and can not sleep... Works for me! Good Luck! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosLobo Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I used to get a stiff neck from using conventional multifocal spectacles on screen based equipment until I changed over to dedicated "computer" prescription lenses. Also maybe you need to double check the ergonomics for using a standing desk. The screen could be at the wrong height. A balance between standing and sitting might also be useful. Here is an interesting site! Top Standing Desk Mistakes To Avoid https://www.varidesk.com/active-office-resources/top-standing-desk-mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Possibilities are:1. Sleeping posture issue2. Incorrect ergonomics when using standing desk (as per above post)3. Problem in the cervical spine.Try 1 & 2 first but if no success and the pain persists you may need to see a spinal specialist.Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Op, as said above maybe you are getting old. Wait until you get cramps in the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Soft bed High pillow Standing long periods Teaching English (pain in neck, I know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchweller Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I stand for 12-14 hours a day for the last 20+ years. No neck issues I would go see a chiropractor (not some cheap massage joint) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Mine was from standing in line for many hours to get a TM 30 processed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I stand for 12-14 hours a day for the last 20+ years. No neck issues I would go see a chiropractor (not some cheap massage joint)I would caution against both chiropracty and other than the most gentle massage (i.e. gentle rubbing, no strong movement or manipulation) until/unless you have seen a spinal specialist and ruled out problems with the cetvical spine.Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 stop eating so many tacos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 would venture to guess the staff at lolita's is well versed at dealing with neck pain perhaps a short consultation there could help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fittobethaied Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I have the same pains. This is my diagnosis:Cervical spondylosis is a general term for age-related wear and tear affecting the spinal disks in your neck. As the disks dehydrate and shrink, signs of osteoarthritis develop, including bony projections along the edges of bones (bone spurs). Cervical spondylosis is very common and worsens with age. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cervical-spondylosis/symptoms-causes/syc-20370787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 17 hours ago, simon43 said: My stress levels are zero ???? I stand straight upright and don't bend or crouch over a laptop or mobile phone. I can alleviate the ache somewhat by doing neck stretching exercises, but I also want to find out why my neck aches in the first place. Sounds as though you have a subluxation in your neck, which means that one or more of the cervical vertebrae are slightly misaligned which would cause an irritation of a nerve(s), the first reaction of which is to fire and tense the local musculature. Could be from many things; pillow, sleeping in the wrong position, standing too much, the general stresses of life. Find a chiropractor and get the cause of the neck pain removed via a simple adjustment, then work on strengthening the neck muscles. Massage and stretching will do wonders once the cause of the problem is removed, especially as you sound to be in good physical condition with no apparent bad postural habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Sheryl said: I would caution against both chiropracty and other than the most gentle massage (i.e. gentle rubbing, no strong movement or manipulation) until/unless you have seen a spinal specialist and ruled out problems with the cetvical spine. Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app I'm sorry, but your warning about avoiding chiropractic to see a neurologist is just nonsense. Chiropractors are very well trained to check for such things before doing anything. Neurologists tend to see everything through the lens of surgical possibilities, whereas a chiropractor will see things through the lens of naturopathic treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFelix Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Cold draughts. I always sleep with my windows open, one of which is behind the bed head. With the recent cooler weather due to the rain I have had neck aches for about 2 weeks. Started closing the window at night and neck ache now gone. I have suffered the same problem before while driving long distance at night with the car window open. https://patient.info › bones-joints-muscles › neck-pain › torticollis-twisted-neck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosLobo Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 hours ago, GalaxyMan said: I'm sorry, but your warning about avoiding chiropractic to see a neurologist is just nonsense. Chiropractors are very well trained to check for such things before doing anything. Neurologists tend to see everything through the lens of surgical possibilities, whereas a chiropractor will see things through the lens of naturopathic treatment. Does chiropractic still claim that it can cure the common cold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, LosLobo said: Does chiropractic still claim that it can cure the common cold? Not since the 1800s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boit Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Chiropractors are spinal specialists. There are still a few under informed souls out there who fear a conservative approach, like the sarcastic individual who asked if it can cure the common cold. That remark might be humorous if it were not directed to a person suffering and looking for help in a forum. One should also understand that a natural approach is not the same as a Naturopathic approach. Gentle, specific manipulations to the spine has helped may people, which is why Chiropractic is the #1 conservative health care in the world. Give it a try. You may want to get a 7 view series of x-rays to take to the Chiropractic Doctor with you to expedite the process and relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I'm sorry, but your warning about avoiding chiropractic to see a neurologist is just nonsense. Chiropractors are very well trained to check for such things before doing anything. Neurologists tend to see everything through the lens of surgical possibilities, whereas a chiropractor will see things through the lens of naturopathic treatment.There is no system in Thailand for licensing chiropracters nor regulating their practices and precious little recourse if they make a mistake. There are appatently a few chiros here who ate fully trained and licensed in thrir home country (though you have only their word for it). There are definitely some self proclaimed ones here who are not and probably more of the latter than the former.Even properly trained ones may cut corners in this loose regulatory environment in ways they would not in the West.Neurologists are not surgeons and do not perform surgery of any type.Spinal surgery is performed either by orthopedic surgeon or neurosurgeon in both instances with additional special training. The good ones definitely do not see surgery as a first resort and indeed hesitate to operate unless there is clear indication. They certainly do not end up operating on the majority of their patients and surgery is not their only tool for managing spinal problems.I have personally gone to spinal surgeon here here expecting surgery and willing to have it and been told no, no need, it will resolve with conservative treatment (he was right). Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, Sheryl said: There is no system in Thailand for licensing chiropracters nor regulating their practices and precious little recourse if they make a mistake. There are appatently a few chiros here who ate fully trained and licensed in thrir home country (though you have only their word for it). There are definitely some self proclaimed ones here who are not and probably more of the latter than the former. Even properly trained ones may cut corners in this loose regulatory environment in ways they would not in the West. Neurologists are not surgeons and do not perform surgery of any type. Spinal surgery is performed either by orthopedic surgeon or neurosurgeon in both instances with additional special training. The good ones definitely do not see surgery as a first resort and indeed hesitate to operate unless there is clear indication. They certainly do not end up operating on the majority of their patients and surgery is not their only tool for managing spinal problems. I have personally gone to spinal surgeon here here expecting surgery and willing to have it and been told no, no need, it will resolve with conservative treatment (he was right). Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app I'm not aware of Thailand's licensing or not of chiropractors. Having practiced for over 30 years and now retired, I can only tell you that the complaints that the O/P is presenting here are Chiropractic 101 for a cervical adjustment. No complaints of accident or trauma. In the USSA, because of insurance requirements, an x-ray would be required to rule out any structural injury. Having performed literally thousands of adjustments without injuring a patient, I feel I have some room here to comment. I'm aware of a couple of chiroquackters here on Samui, one German, one French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 As stated -- no licensing here and no regulation. This I know. It is not a recognized profession in Thailand.As a result practioners are foreigners and my impression is the quacks out number the legits by a good margin.I have also directly observed some loose practices by chiros that as far as I could tell (and one can never be sure hete) were genuine. Things they would never do in their own country...like not getting xrays or even looking at films already provided by the patient. In a totally unregulated environment corners get cut, sad but true. I have also seen popular and presumed genuine chiros misinterpret simple xrays to an astonishing degree. Poorly trained? Untrained and faking? Who knows but it defin8tely happens.It is a world apart from what you experienced practicing in the west and advise for people living here has to be geared to these realities.Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFelix Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 hours ago, LosLobo said: Does chiropractic still claim that it can cure the common cold? Nah youre confusing chiropractic with hydroponic ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 21 hours ago, GreasyFingers said: Op, as said above maybe you are getting old. Wait until you get cramps in the neck. That's encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 poor posture, poor muscle tone throughout the body, little to no stretching (not just the neck). Try taking up a yoga with a good western teacher (most Thai teachers and Indian ones in Thailand aren't very good) from my lengthy experience as a practitioner and a once-upon-a-time teacher., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylmiri Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 4:41 PM, simon43 said: My stress levels are zero ???? I stand straight upright and don't bend or crouch over a laptop or mobile phone. I can alleviate the ache somewhat by doing neck stretching exercises, but I also want to find out why my neck aches in the first place. Nervous tension ( one that you are not aware) . Acupuncture often helps , no side effects, no pills. Finding a good acupuncturist could be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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