U.S. House panel probes fortunes of airport near Trump resort in Scotland

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U.S. House panel probes fortunes of airport near Trump resort in Scotland

By David Morgan

 

FILE PHOTO - U.S. President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump depart from Glasgow Prestwick Airport in Prestwick, Britain, July 15, 2018. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A powerful House of Representatives panel could soon step up pressure on the Pentagon for documents about an airport near a Trump-owned golf course in Scotland that has benefited from U.S. military purchases since President Donald Trump took office, an aide said on Saturday.

 

The Democratic-led House Oversight and Reform Committee is seeking information about the Defense Department's ties to the Trump golf resort in Turnberry and the nearby Glasgow Prestwick Airport, which is viewed as integral to the golf course's financial success, according to a June letter from Chairman Elijah Cummings and Representative Jamie Raskin to the Pentagon.

 

The lawmakers are looking into at least two areas. One consists of 629 separate defence purchase orders for fuel at Prestwick totalling $11 million since October 2017. The other involves press reports that the airport has offered cut-rate rooms for select passengers and crew, and free rounds of golf at Turnberry to visiting U.S. military and civilian air crews.

 

Pentagon officials had no immediate comment.

 

"Given the president's continued financial stake in his Scotland golf courses, these reports raise questions about the president's potential receipt of U.S. or foreign government emoluments, in violation of the U.S. Constitution, and raise other serious conflict of interest concerns," Cummings and Raskin said in the June 21 letter, which was reviewed by Reuters.

 

The Constitution bars government officials including the president from receiving financial benefits known as emoluments from foreign or domestic governments, without approval from Congress.

 

Democrats complained that the Pentagon's cooperation in their inquiry has been poor, and that it has not produced a single document in the investigation. 

 

"The committee will be forced to consider alternative steps if the Pentagon does not begin complying voluntarily in the coming days," a senior Democratic committee aide told Reuters in a statement.

 

The Trump Turnberry golf resort has also received government funding from the U.S. State Department.

 

The State Department paid SLC Turnberry Ltd, the Trump company that owns the resort, more than $77,000 ahead of a 2018 visit by Trump that occurred between a meeting with the NATO military alliance and a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

 

Trump resigned as director of Turnberry when he took office in January 2017 but continues to hold an ownership stake.

 

(Reporting by David Morgan; Editing by Chris Reese)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-08

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[TopDeadSenter]

3 years of ever more frantic searching, and ever more farcical new ideas to nail him at any cost for any crime. There will be an election very soon. I take it that by playing these silly games the opposition have essentially thrown in the towel. This latest plan looks a real winner, this should save thousands of lives back home and enrich America like nothing has ever done. An airport in SCOTLAND?!? Good luck with it!

[Samui Bodoh]

Donald Trump is a guy who would steal toilet paper from a family restaurant in order to save money (while stiffing the waitress at the same time); I shudder to think how much he is weaseling out of US tax-payers.

 

I have said it before and will say it again;

 

Donald Trump is an ever-expanding cloud of toxic waste that defiles everything it touches.

 

God help us all.

 

 

 

[TopDeadSenter]

22 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Donald Trump is a guy who would steal toilet paper from a family restaurant in order to save money

You no doubt have a credible source to back up this hysterical assertion? Also not sure what a desperate witch hunt against a successful and popular President has to do with bizarre speculations of bog roll thefts. 

[KMartinHandyman]

Yes God help us to get him re-elected so the show can go on!

[metisdead]

A troll post containing an offensive generalization has been removed. 

[Tug]

Sorry suffice to say Donald trump is corrupt a scofflaw and regularly breaks the laws of this nation it will catch up to him soon

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

3 years of ever more frantic searching, and ever more farcical new ideas to nail him at any cost for any crime. There will be an election very soon. I take it that by playing these silly games the opposition have essentially thrown in the towel. This latest plan looks a real winner, this should save thousands of lives back home and enrich America like nothing has ever done. An airport in SCOTLAND?!? Good luck with it!

An airport in Scotland where the Pentagon paid a higher price for military fuel than it otherwise would have done. . And where the air crew's per diems weren't even enough to cover the cost of food and drink.

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

You no doubt have a credible source to back up this hysterical assertion? Also not sure what a desperate witch hunt a successful and popular President has to do with bizarre speculations of bog roll thefts. 

"...a successful and popular President"

Not even Rasmussen supports your contention. Approve of Trump: 46% Disapprove 52%

 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

[KMartinHandyman]

"...a successful and popular President"
Not even Rasmussen supports your contention. Approve of Trump: 46% Disapprove 52%
 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

He’s polling the pants off Nancy Pelosi, the most powerful elected Democrat, third in line for the presidency. He’s minus 6 to minus 13, she’s minus 16 to minus 21.

Poll Date Favorable Unfavorable Spread
RCP Average 8/20 - 9/3 34.0 52.0 -18.0
Economist/YouGov 9/1 - 9/3 38 54 -16
Harvard-Harris 8/26 - 8/28 35 51 -16
Politico/Morning Consult 8/23 - 8/25 32 51 -19
USA Today/Suffolk 8/20 - 8/25 31 52 -21

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/nancy_pelosi_favorableunfavorable-6673.html

[Boon Mee]

Have we reached peak TDS yet? 555 

[Emdog]

4 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

3 years of ever more frantic searching, and ever more farcical new ideas to nail him at any cost for any crime. There will be an election very soon. I take it that by playing these silly games the opposition have essentially thrown in the towel. This latest plan looks a real winner, this should save thousands of lives back home and enrich America like nothing has ever done. An airport in SCOTLAND?!? Good luck with it!

The Constitution is not "farcical" IMO. " The Constitution bars government officials including the president from receiving financial benefits known as emoluments from foreign or domestic governments, without approval from Congress." Did you miss this?

Can you provide one, just one, valid reason that military transport planes should stop at airport near Trump's resort, pay higher costs for fuel, have crew stay at his resort when US has military bases in Spain and Germany that are there for that purpose, have been used prior to Trump taking office? This is not a "silly game", it is one more (of many) example of Trump using position for his financial benefit.

I would guess you are also in crowd that got panties in a knot for the time Obama missed saluting prior to boarding helicopter and wearing a light colored suit. 

[mtls2005]

Interesting that the Pentagon has been stone-walling on requests for information on this practice for ~ six months. And finally, adressed one trip (which included two stopovers at Prestwick) via a communique? One detailed a stay at Ternberry, the other a stay at a Marriott. Both were billed under the allowable per diem. No clue if rounds of golf were comped?

 

Assuming everything is above-board one hopes they'll quickly release any/all relevant information, which will address this matter, and put any idle speculation to rest.

 

The fuel purchases should probably be addressed, as would be the use of this specific public airport versus many other military options?

 

I'm sure everything will be explained, and that nothing untoward has occurred.

 

 

 

 

[bristolboy]

15 minutes ago, KMartinHandyman said:

He’s polling the pants off Nancy Pelosi, the most powerful elected Democrat, third in line for the presidency. He’s minus 6 to minus 13, she’s minus 16 to minus 21.

Poll Date Favorable Unfavorable Spread
RCP Average 8/20 - 9/3 34.0 52.0 -18.0
Economist/YouGov 9/1 - 9/3 38 54 -16
Harvard-Harris 8/26 - 8/28 35 51 -16
Politico/Morning Consult 8/23 - 8/25 32 51 -19
USA Today/Suffolk 8/20 - 8/25 31 52 -21

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/nancy_pelosi_favorableunfavorable-6673.html

Thanks for the apples vs oranges report.

How about comparing Trump vs. potential Democratic candidates? You know, apples vs. apples.

[NoBrainer]

59 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Thanks for the apples vs oranges report.

How about comparing Trump vs. potential Democratic candidates? You know, apples vs. apples.

 

Pools mean nothing. The comparison you are asking for will be done in Nov 2020.

[Srikcir]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

Interesting that the Pentagon has been stone-walling on requests for information on this practice for ~ six months.

It is for the Secretary of Defense to answer congressional questions. The "Pentagon" needs permission from the Secretary vis a vis POTUS Trump to testify before Congress.

Expect another House subpoena for the Secretary to testify before the House and expect him to refuse.

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, bristolboy said:

An airport in Scotland where the Pentagon paid a higher price for military fuel than it otherwise would have done. . And where the air crew's per diems weren't even enough to cover the cost of food and drink.

Let's also add the additional flight time for the crew and aircraft to fly to Scotland taking a route not previously navigated by the crew versus flying to U.S. bases in Germany and Italy used to take on supplies and fuel for U.S. Middle East bases. The Scotland reroute is not only more expensive and burdensome for the crews, it endangers both crews and aircraft.

[mtls2005]

5 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

It is for the Secretary of Defense to answer congressional questions. The "Pentagon" needs permission from the Secretary vis a vis POTUS Trump to testify before Congress.

 

I was referring to written requests for documentation, and not in person testimony.

 

The letter requests access to all communications between the US Department of Defense and Trump Turnberry, as well as any related financial records.

According to various reports in the US media, the department has not yet complied with the demands.

[metisdead]

A troll post containing an unrelated video has been removed. 

 

Edit: Another post of a trolling nature has been removed. 

[blazes]

19 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Let's also add the additional flight time for the crew and aircraft to fly to Scotland taking a route not previously navigated by the crew versus flying to U.S. bases in Germany and Italy used to take on supplies and fuel for U.S. Middle East bases. The Scotland reroute is not only more expensive and burdensome for the crews, it endangers both crews and aircraft.

 

 

Clearly someone has never flown from North America to Germany or Italy.  All flights have to fly over or near to Scotland, especially those going to Europe.

 

And how, pray tell, does it "endanger" crews and aircraft??!!!!

 

For all the many many people on ThaiVisa who have flown from North America to UK or Europe and beyond, please be advised that (if we believe Srikcir) you are in mortal danger.

[mtls2005]

The Scottish press has been on this story for many months.

 

I wonder how secure this smallish public airport is? I mean for U.S. Military personnel and equipment? Plane spotters report two USAF flights yesterday.

 

Fore.

 

Donald Trump announces partnership deal with Prestwick Airport to service Trump Turnberry golf resort

 

"We are going to make this really successful. You are going to get a lot of business."

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/donald-trump-announces-partnership-deal-4628442

 

 

 

There's always a tweet...

[Mavideol]

Anything he does it's always focus on his own (family) interest..... Scotland airport, 2020 G7 meeting, meetings in Florida his own golf course the list it's so long and yet he keeps yelling that everything he does he does it for the country, recently said he's not interested in the money but more about saving the country, saving it from whom?..... 555

[mtls2005]

15 minutes ago, blazes said:

Clearly someone has never flown from North America to Germany or Italy.  All flights have to fly over or near to Scotland, especially those going to Europe.

 

Flights going from the continental U.S. and Alaska, evidently stopping off in Scotland, en route to the Middle East.

 

We (U.S.) have bases in the U.K. and Spain specifically for this purpose. Using a small public airport in Scotland seems unusual, unless some sort of emergency of course. I'm not sure how secure such an airport is, for military personnel, and equipment?  Especially if the crew is off at Ternberry 50 miles away playing a round. Fore.

 

 http://www.egpk.com/

 

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93-1037 C130H USAF RCH047 arr 1847
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Think that KC130T USN flight is a tanker. Not sure if it's bringing fuel in for depot storage, or just refueling the C130s on the ground? I'm sure this is all legal, and SOP.

 

[jany123]

7 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

3 years of ever more frantic searching, and ever more farcical new ideas to nail him at any cost for any crime. There will be an election very soon. I take it that by playing these silly games the opposition have essentially thrown in the towel. This latest plan looks a real winner, this should save thousands of lives back home and enrich America like nothing has ever done. An airport in SCOTLAND?!? Good luck with it!

TopDeadSenter

T....D......S

Trump Delusion Syndrome.

i get it now... so obvious... ????????????

[mtls2005]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

93-1037 C130H USAF RCH047 arr 1847

 

You can spot these tail numbers on the web easily.

 

https://www.jetphotos.com/airport/Glasgow-Prestwick+Airport+-+EGPK

 

This one frequents Prestwick. Looks like it's out of Dobbins in Georgia (Atlanta Braves tomahawk logo on the tail).

 

 

Found photos going back to 2009, so maybe all will be explained, including the golf? Fore.

 

( This airport was used by CIA rendition/torture flights back in the day, until local politcos found out and publicized it, so long before the current president's administration. )

 

Maybe these planes can't make it to bases in the U.K., Germany or Spain?

 

 

In 2017... https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8733964

 

 

 

 

[wwest5829]

8 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

You no doubt have a credible source to back up this hysterical assertion? Also not sure what a desperate witch hunt against a successful and popular President has to do with bizarre speculations of bog roll thefts. 

You crack me up. the Donald’s personal and professional life history is well documented from a plethora of creditable sources. Thus is recorded for all history. It is not pretty but it is of his own doing. The latest from Fort Campbell, Kentucky? Oops, the new planned base school funds are needed to help build a wall.

[Morch]

8 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

3 years of ever more frantic searching, and ever more farcical new ideas to nail him at any cost for any crime. There will be an election very soon. I take it that by playing these silly games the opposition have essentially thrown in the towel. This latest plan looks a real winner, this should save thousands of lives back home and enrich America like nothing has ever done. An airport in SCOTLAND?!? Good luck with it!

 

Doubt you felt as strongly about such practices with regard to all them Benghazi investigations, Birther thing and other nonsense courtesy of the political side your favor. Same goes for Trump's own contributions - rigged elections, bugged phones and whatnot. Spare the faux indignation - nobody buys it.

 

 

8 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

You no doubt have a credible source to back up this hysterical assertion? Also not sure what a desperate witch hunt against a successful and popular President has to do with bizarre speculations of bog roll thefts. 

 

Coming form a poster who often makes outrageous, nonsensical and rarely supported claims - not a very forceful argument there.

[Thaidream]

8 hours ago, bristolboy said:

n airport in Scotland where the Pentagon paid a higher price for military fuel than it otherwise would have done. . And where the air crew's per diems weren't even enough to cover the cost of food and drink.

Absolutely correct and why were these aircraft routed via Scotland when there are US Air Force bases in both England and Germany where the aircraft could be serviced by US Government personnel and the air crews  housed in on base US Government housing and eat at military  dining facilities.

 

Why has Trump proposed the next  meeting of the G7 be held at Doral Resort in California- surpise, suprise- He owns it and it is financially a bust.

 

Why do most foreign dignitaries coming to Washington DC- stay at the Trump Hotel.  Oh, I know they would have picked that hotel anyway.

 

Trump is as crooked as a 3 Dollar bill.  He lies constantly;  uses a financial filter that stresses anything he owns and is constantly using the Presidency to enrich himself. He is in violation of the emouluments clause of the US Constitution  which is certainly an impeachable offense but I hope he is not impeached as he would use that  to gain favor amongst his base.

 

The best way to get  rid of Trump is to defeat him in the next election and after he is out- indict him; arrest him and convict him of obstruction of justice.  

[KMartinHandyman]

Thanks for the apples vs oranges report.
How about comparing Trump vs. potential Democratic candidates? You know, apples vs. apples.

No it’s apples to apples, same as your poll which asked favorable job approval or unfavorable job approval. You and your poll made no contrast to trump vs. any democratic nominee. Very Democratic to change the story despite the facts.
So once again he’s polling well ahead of the next closest currently elected, third in line for the presidency, democratic politician.

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, KMartinHandyman said:

No it’s apples to apples, same as your poll which asked favorable job approval or unfavorable job approval. You and your poll made no contrast to trump vs. any democratic nominee. Very Democratic to change the story despite the facts.
So once again he’s polling well ahead of the next closest currently elected, third in line for the presidency, democratic politician.

Still apples and oranges.