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29 minutes ago, ianezy0 said:

There are no mobile phones with a 1” sensor. Your 1” sensor size requirement limits your choice of point n shoot. The Sony RX 100 iv has a 1” sensor but it doesn’t come cheap. To get your sensor, you are looking at $1000 ++.

mobiles are improving with each new release but, at the moment, you will not get the freedom of Av or Tv. They do produce specific lenses, I.e. wide angle, telephoto but there is no actual adjustment capabilities.

If you really want all that you have listed, you will need to splurge a bit and buy, either the Sony RX 100iv or the Canon G7X iii.

You can get some decent mirrorless cameras now for around $500 but you will also need a lens. Worth looking at though as the kit could come to less than a point n shoot.

cheers

 

oops....for some reason I thought you stipulated a 1” sensor. Best of luck anyway mate.

Thank you, ianezy0, all good points 😉

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1 hour ago, malibukid said:

i suggest you look  at Panasonic LX10 or Sony RX100-4 or 5 series of compacts.  smartphones can not compete with compacts optics and zoom range, IQ.  plan on spending between $550-1k.  i have a Panny LX5 and love it.  you could find these on Ebay as well.  check out Digital Preview

Thanks, Malibukid. I'm not going anywhere near $1000, though, so at least that narrows my choices down 😉

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1 hour ago, HarrySeaman said:

Just as a bit of background I have been an amateur photographer for over 60 years and currently one film SLR, three DSLRs, a variety of lenses, and several point and shoot cameras.

 

The best camera is the one you have with you.  Smart phone cameras are great because you almost always have one with you.  They do, however, have big limits.

 

Their sensitivity is limited by the small size of the sensor, causing them to use high ISO values, which causes visible noise.

 

Most don't zoom mechanically but some do use a couple of cameras with different focal lengths.

 

You need a holder to mount a phone on a tripod.

 

You can usually find an application that will extend the capabilities such as extending the exposure time or settings for white balance.

 

For the type of images you are shooting I would recommend a point and shoot camera with a zoom lens.  The image quality won't match a full sized DSLR but the image quality is more than good enough and having a small light weight all in one camera is great for travel.

 

So called 1" cameras don't have a sensor anywhere near 1" in size.  They are about 13.2 mm x 8.8 mm in size with a diagonal of 0.46 inch.  They are still tiny sensors but probably better than what is in a cell phone.

 

If you want to go more advanced then look a Micro Four Thirds (18 mm × 13.5 mm (22.5 mm = 1" diagonal) sensor camera.  DX or APS-C DSLR or mirrorless cameras have a sensor that is larger than a Micro Four Thirds sensor, Full frame cameras have an even larger sensor equal to the size of a 35 mm film frame.

 

Read reviews and compare the cameras with what you want at this Digital Photography Review site.  Start with the best bargain cameras then check the ones for each price range that is within your budget.

 

BEST CAMERAS AND LENSES - 2019 DPREVIEW BUYING GUIDES

 

One example of a great bargain in this buying guide is the Nikon D3500 w/18-55 lens.  This is an entry level 24.2 MP DX DSLR with the 18-55 mm general purpose kit lens.  The $446 listed price is for the USA but I just found it on Lazada for between 12,850 Bt and 15,670 Bt.

Thanks, HarrySeaman.

 

You confirmed what I thought was the case and others have since agreed.  I even saw a YouTube video from a camera store that pretty much said no one but grandparents bother with compacts these days. It seems that these people are wrong going by the limitations of smartphone cameras.

 

There seems to be a strong market for compacts from what I’ve read here over the last 24 hours. After all, they're phones and internet browsers first, and camera second, I guess. I do plan to keep things simple, though, and stay away from DSLRs 😉

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Get a Sony DSC HX70, 80 or 90 Superzoom. Have the 70 (few years old). So small and light, but with a 30x optical zoom (28mm-720mm). The lens is Zeiss! Best compact camera ever...IMO. I've used alot of Canon and they're excellent...but for price, features, quality, size, weight and zoom...this cam tops all. Fits in nearly any pocket. :thumbsup:

 

(I also have a new Canon (bridge camera) SX70 HS Superzoom, which is much larger with much longer zoom. 65x optical zoom (28mm-1365mm). But for most photos, unless shooting something extremely far off, still grab the Sony most times! 

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My advice would be to look at a "bridge" camera that sits between a compact and a full DSLR. You will get an optical zoom (far better than digital zoom that merely crops the image), better quality optics, a larger sensor for recording a more detailed image and a wider range of apertures and speeds than a camera phone.

 

Whilst many camera phones are boasting 12mp or 15mp or 20mp the true quality is not there when you come to manipulate or enlarge the images due to the minute camera lens and sensor (and should you ever want to print off anything larger than 6x4 forget it).

 

I have been running a Lumix/Panasonic FZ200 since I found my Fuji S2Pro and lenses too heavy and cumbersome to lug around. 

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12 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Look for an Olymus or Lumix kit M4/3 rig. You can get them with decent kit lenses, they are small and when you want to expand, you an go lens first, up to Leica 400mm pro lenses.

 

I dont use Sony because I am used to Lumix interface. use a G9 Lumix. Its not what you want, too big and too many features and too expensive. But any lens I can buy (and I have the Pro lenses) you can stick on your Oly or Pentax above. I prefer Zoom Camera in MBK for my camera shopping in Bangkok, in the USA I use Amazon, B&H and Adorama.  expect to pay $500 USD for a useful kit..Too bad you arent in the USA, G85 Lumixs (an older semi pro model and very handy) are being heavily discounted.

 

This is one I did from the hip. I love Bangkok.

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/bangkok-thailandseptember-7-2019-personal-electric-1498444598

 

 

Very disappointed. I was expecting a selfie leg over behind a dumpster at Maccas on the corner of soi 4 Sukhumvit.

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2 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

Get a Sony DSC HX70, 80 or 90 Superzoom. Have the 70 (few years old). So small and light, but with a 30x optical zoom (28mm-720mm). The lens is Zeiss! Best compact camera ever...IMO. I've used alot of Canon and they're excellent...but for price, features, quality, size, weight and zoom...this cam tops all. Fits in nearly any pocket. :thumbsup:

 

(I also have a new Canon (bridge camera) SX70 HS Superzoom, which is much larger with much longer zoom. 65x optical zoom (28mm-1365mm). But for most photos, unless shooting something extremely far off, still grab the Sony most times! 

That's something to think about, Skeptic7, thanks 😉

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2 hours ago, Shouldhaveknownbetter said:

Look at the Panasonic DC-TZ220GA-S 

Power Buy has it for 14,998 baht.  I believe this pocket camera meets your criteria. 

Thank you, Shouldhaveknownbetter, another one to look into 😉

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1 minute ago, Stubby said:

That's something to think about, Skeptic7, thanks 😉

Sure...has an EVF...burst mode up to 10 fps...image stabilization. It's actually a compact bridge camera. Here's a few snaps I've taken with it...all hand held.

 

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I bought a Huawei last winter and it takes fantastic pics, lots of things on it, you can shoot black and white, which I love. You can change the lighting, colours. I would have liked a better zoom, but I love it. I don’t want to carry two objects around with me.

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6 minutes ago, geisha said:

I bought a Huawei last winter and it takes fantastic pics, lots of things on it, you can shoot black and white, which I love. You can change the lighting, colours. I would have liked a better zoom, but I love it. I don’t want to carry two objects around with me.

While agreed that phones are amazing these days and photos of landscapes, some close ups and general picture taking can be as good and possibly better in dim light, than a point and shoot camera...not gonna get the pix like I posted above with a phone, nor like the ones below. These hawk moths are tiny and the pix are hand held from 4-6 meters.

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12 hours ago, Stubby said:

It sounds like it's time to treat yourself again GK100020000 😉

Cheap Charlie here.  I buy what I need and really really think twice thrice and more before buying things I don't need. 

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Aloha,

As a semi-pro photographer, I've used Canon DSLR's for a long time.  I sold my big Mark II and all the lenses.  I now shoot with a Samsung Galaxy S10+.  Three lenses.  Shoot with tripod.  Also, shoot in 4K.  I use the timer, and can say:  "Shoot" and it takes the picture.  I use "Pro" mode, and change the aperture, shutter speed and ISO.

 

Now ... I am starting to shoot a lot at night, and now miss my full frame camera.  My dinky Canon G10 and G12 point-and-shoot are not doing it for me.  So, I am considering a Canon M50. Reasonable in price.  About $695.00 here in USA.

 

By the way .... I am a Big YouTuber -- with multiple channels.  My Maui Travel Videos channel has over 35K Views, and I only shoot with the Galaxy S10+.  I just bought a Samsung Galaxy S8+ for my back-up.  I use an external lavalier microphone, and several ND filters.

 

It just depends on what you want to do.  As a YouTuber, I am very good with Smartphones.  You can even sell on Shutterstock and other stock photography sites.  I also use a Zhiyun Smooth 4 Gimbal.  Quite nice and don't have big lenses and big body to carry with me on my travels.

 

Just some insight here.  Either way is good.

 

Best wishes and shooting.  Remember -- it's not about the equipment.  It's about your ability to frame an image that tells a story.

 

Good Luck.  Steve

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