ujayujay Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 ????????????off course........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 15 hours ago, snoop1130 said: BANGKOK (Reuters) - The number of foreign tourists arriving in Thailand rose 5.59% in August from a year earlier, with Chinese visitor numbers rebounding strongly, the tourism ministry said on Tuesday Yet all the bars, restaurants clubs are saying it's dead ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, cmsally said: Wow astonishing ! If they are that sure it can do better maybe they should manage it for themselves for a year or so. Also noticeable is that "Minor" is pushing for it to go through the Thai legal system. The surveys stated are alarming for next year ............ A 20% increase in rooms, with a 20% decrease in occupation = 40% more rooms than required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotsdermatter Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 15 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Thailand's August foreign tourist arrivals up 5.6% year on year That being said, it could be true but what is up 5.6% of? Just read the stats from 2018, did have the new ones for 2019, up to August, but lost them. Thailand was not in the top 10 for this year. 2018 statistics[edit] Airports Council International's (January–December) preliminary figures are as follows.[1] Rank City Airport Location Code (IATA/ICAO) Total passengers Monthly rank change % change 1. Dubai Dubai International Airport Al Garhoud, Dubai, United Arab Emirates DXB/OMDB 88,885,367 1.3% 2. London London Heathrow Airport Hillingdon, Greater London, United Kingdom LHR/EGLL 75,306,939 2.9% 3. Hong Kong Hong Kong International Airport Chek Lap Kok, Islands, New Territories, Hong Kong HKG/VHHH 74,360,976 2.6% 4. Amsterdam Amsterdam Airport Schiphol Haarlemmermeer, North Holland, Netherlands AMS/EHAM 70,956,258 3.7% 5. Seoul Seoul Incheon International Airport Jung-gu, Incheon, South Korea ICN/RKSI 67,676,147 2 10.0% 6. Paris Paris-Charles de Gaulle Airport Roissy-en-France, Val d'Oise, Île-de-France, France CDG/LFPG 66,383,494 1 4.2% 7. Singapore Singapore Changi Airport Changi, East Region, Singapore SIN/WSSS 64,890,000 1 5.4% 8. Frankfurt Frankfurt Airport Flughafen, Frankfurt, Hesse, Germany FRA/EDDF 61,774,663 8.1% 9. Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport Racha Thewa, Bang Phli, Samut Prakan, Greater Bangkok, Thailand BKK/VTBS 50,868,846 4.2% 10. Istanbul Atatürk International Airport Yeşilköy, Bakırköy, Istanbul, Turkey IST/LTBA 48,978,770 1 10.1% 11. Taipei Taoyuan International Airport Dayuan, Taoyuan, Taiwan TPE/RCTP 46,152,164 1 3.8% 12. Kuala Lumpur Kuala Lumpur International Airport Sepang, Selangor, Malaysia KUL/WMKK 43,531,741 2.8% 13. London London Gatwick Airport Crawley, West Sussex, United Kingdom LGW/EGKK 41,476,858 2.1% 14. Madrid Madrid-Barajas Airport Madrid, Comunidad de Madrid, Spain MAD/LEMD 41,857,125 8.8% 15. Barcelona Barcelona–El Prat Airport El Prat de Llobregat, Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain BCN/LEBL 36,545,787 2 6.2% 16. Munich Munich Airport Oberding/Hallbergmoos/Marzling, Erding/Freising, Bavaria, Germany MUC/EDDM 36,545,787 5.3% 17. Tokyo Narita International Airport Narita, Chiba, Kantō, Honshū, Japan NRT/RJAA 35,300,076 1 6.7% 18. Doha Hamad International Airport Doha, Qatar DOH/OTBD 34,495,078 3 2.2% 19. New York City John F. Kennedy International Airport Queens, New York City, New York, United States JFK/KJFK 33,485,078 2.8% 20. Toronto Toronto Pearson International Airport Mississauga, Ontario, Canada YYZ/CYYZ 31,610,348 6.7 If the Thai stats are different, then how can they be explained in comparison to these because these were not pulled out of a hot? According to all I have read on this forum, the arrivals appear to be much higher than even the highest records worldwide, such as the contention that the medical services rank above such countries as France and Spain. Is somebody "fixing things" by counting people entering the airports to say good bye or to greet their visitors/friends. That alone would pump things way up. 'nuf sed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Nick Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 3 hours ago, bender92 said: Where are they? Pattaya is pretty empty. Maybe they are, where these numbers come from!? A veeeeeery dark place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Lots of tour buses running around causing traffic problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Nick Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Since I moved here, about 10 years ago, the numbers are always up! Fun observation: when I came here first in 1997, you almost couldn't move through Patpong Nightmarked- you WERE moved, by the pushing crowd! 2019: you can take your girlfriend by the hand and skip through the market and not even touch anybody! So: reality and numbers somehow don't add up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I think there is a new band of tourists on the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 A post in which the quoted content had been altered has been removed as per the following: 16) You will not make changes to quoted material from other members posts, except for purposes of shortening the quoted post. This cannot be done in such a manner that it alters the context of the original post. A post using ALL CAPS has been removed, please turn off your Caps Lock when posting: Forum Netiquette 1. Please do not post in all capital letters, bold, unusual fonts, sizes, colors or use unusually large emoticons. It can be difficult to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millcx Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 17 hours ago, petermik said: Are we really supposed to believe this............ It does make me giggle that they count the passengers that are getting on another flight to leave Thailand ... It’s getting worse ... Places are dying on their feet “;0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Millcx said: It does make me giggle that they count the passengers that are getting on another flight to leave Thailand How do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 17 hours ago, petermik said: Are we really supposed to believe this............ When TAT say figures are down they are 100% correct When they are up they are lying mongrel dogs ☺☺☺☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 The figures on arrivals may be up but spend nothing (except 7/11 maybe) The breakfast buffets at the hotels which are included in the packages look like pigs at troughs 40 million a year ,,, that is a lot of sewerage & rubbish to clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPhibes Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 16 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said: There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. So says Samuel Clemens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter14 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Chinese and Indian.. yeah they not foreigners.. they asian( they are separated). the stat must come from the new fake news center... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 16 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said: There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. PS , not forgetting Thai lies . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaky Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Will check out the immigration q at suvarnahumi tomorrow and report back to see if there is any evidence of this influx of foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesmon Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 How do they know how much tourists spent last month....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbri Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Must be that "new" math. 2+2=5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Dough Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Contrary to many people on this thread banging on about lies and statistics, it is perfectly reasonable to suggest that the numbers are up year on year. The effects of the the Phoenix boat tragedy, in July 2018, were mostly felt by cancellations in August of last year. The question is whether the year on year increase can be maintained over the next few months compared to the general recovery after the cancellations from Phoenix. That is more debatable. Rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friend of siam Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 19 hours ago, DrTuner said: What they mean is number of foreign arrivals as per immigration in certain visa/exemption classes. Immigration isn't releasing data of the length of the stays, meaning any connecting travel that requires clearing immigration is counted as tourists. The figures aren't usable. I think they count on the bases of the arrival cards...if u in transit u dont fill such a card... for thai it does not matter from which country the tourists come... thousands and thousands of Chinese group tours 5 days max..is ok....not the big spenders but still number is up.... if westerners decline cause of currency and environmental issues...( sea meditarean long time ago a rubbish basin is now Cristal clear....thai beaches / pattaya ...samui...kho chang...and nakkhorn area / down developed close to klong quality ) thai government could not care less .. soon a holiday in greece is cheaper than fly all the way to thailand... the only asset Thai has is cheap mass prostitution...that still draws old men from around the world...everything else ( environment money security etc. ) most other countrys is far better...for chinese thailand is near and a group tour chicken cage style is affordable to leave the treadmill for a short while... last time I left through Suvarnabhumi the crowds there was shocking took me close to two hours to pass everything...so their statistics I think is accurate...indian chinese all over the place but only here and there a few westerners.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, friend of siam said: I think they count on the bases of the arrival cards...if u in transit u dont fill such a card... You do if you transit to a regional airline, say you arrive with Thai at swampy and take a connecting with Air Asia from Don Muang. Or any other connecting method. I suspect quite a few have just a single overnight stay to wait for the connecting one. Impossible to say for sure though as only immigration has the stats and hasn't released them AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Up 5.6% So thats 5 people and a child? I think figures will become more accurate if those creating the statistics start using calculators... Doing it in their head, may not be the most efficient or accurate way of doing things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarth Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 are they telling all Thailand these stupid lies? well it is a good thing the general is safe now wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 For a month we heard nothing but bad news that tourism was down , Chinese were not coming , indians were going to save Thailand tourism , ministers were needing more time abroad , bars needed to stay open longer BUT as it turns out it was all fake news . The real news is not only tourism is doing well and up but even more than last year. Yippi???????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller101 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Ok - I get it. 1. Tourist Numbers up x.xxxx% Spending up ×.××××% OR 2. Tourist Numbers down 0.××××% but Spending up x.xxxx% OR 3. Chinese Tourists down but Indian Tourists up and SPENDING UUUP BY x.xxxx% 4. If Tourist Numbers down and Spending not up, projected Numbers of everything will be up by years end. Blahblahblahblahblah - boring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruntoid Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 23 hours ago, Fex Bluse said: I learned from educated Thais that you never trust whatever is being claimed. Thais know themselves. Any announcement needs to be met with suspicion and read between the lines. In Thailand there is a very weak attachment to truth, so words are fairly meaningless on their face. Racist ? Much ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruntoid Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Jane Dough said: Contrary to many people on this thread banging on about lies and statistics, it is perfectly reasonable to suggest that the numbers are up year on year. The effects of the the Phoenix boat tragedy, in July 2018, were mostly felt by cancellations in August of last year. The question is whether the year on year increase can be maintained over the next few months compared to the general recovery after the cancellations from Phoenix. That is more debatable. Rooster Of course it’s reasonable - it might also be <deleted>. Who knows. Given I doubt a single poster in this thread has any connection whatsoever with the travelling Chinese community all the outpouring of incredulity is based on nothing at all. (Unless you have a trainspotter type counting them in at Swampy?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, BestB said: For a month we heard nothing but bad news that tourism was down , Chinese were not coming , indians were going to save Thailand tourism , ministers were needing more time abroad , bars needed to stay open longer BUT as it turns out it was all fake news . The real news is not only tourism is doing well and up but even more than last year. Yippi???????????????????????? Dude what is wrong? if you put half the effort in promoting you're broken "hotel" as you do trashing Thailand around the clock you may Even turn a profit .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 There was a little uptick here in CM during Aug. but now with the school season starting in the US, Europe, and the UK it has slowed once again and it does appear the chinese count is down from Aug. not many gathered at Thapae Gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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